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It may be in jest but whenever you play the #Goodwinmyths card it seems shorthand to discredit what a poster is saying ipso facto defending Goodwin. In this case most of the response to my first post seemed defensive of him or to exonerate him.

Cheer up! We won't run out of fuel. Some years back fuel shortages led to rationing. We survived. People became creative eg WFH, car pooling, public transport, delayed holidays, etc etc As long as there are trains to the footy the show will go on!!

It sure sounded like you were.

Yes, Goodwin tried in 2024 but as we slid down the ladder he panicked and reverted back to the previous game plan. Later he admitted it was a mistake to revert back to the old 'territory, defence first' plan. So it is hard to say the 2024 attempt was successful. Yes, he tried again in 2025 starting the season 0-5 and again we ended up 14th. While elements of a 'transition' game from d5o to f50 were introduced, it was still largely a 'territory, hug the boundary style, low risk, 'bombing' into a congested fwd line. It was patently obvious at the ground that players were confused about their roles and lacked confidence in what they were doing. Lots of reasons for that but we can't exonerate the coach. No, Goodwin's attempts in 2025 were not successful otherwise he would still have his job. What he didn't change was our method for going i50. We stuck to the kick long bombs to a contest often hugging the boundary. That is what Petracca, Oliver, Viney etal were asked to do. That style resulted in numerous op marks i50 and fwds taking difficult shots from the boundary with the inevitable poor goal/point ratio. We have a sample of only one game but lets list what King has changed. Fwd line has opened up with little congestion. Fwds are leading with speed at the kicker. Extremely high marks i50 Mids are centering the ball i50 and risking a turnover back through the corridor vs Goodwin style of playing it safe by hugging the boundary. (I saw a chart which showed where our shots for goal were on Sunday but unfortunately I can't find it - it was eye opening compared to prior years). Greater goal/point accuracy: 18.12 So I agree with @3KZ is Football Goodwin made a few tweaks in 204/2025 (unsuccessfully) and King has found a way in a few months to enable us to move the ball more freely with the resulting high level connection with the forward line - something that Goodwin never came close to achieving. Even if the players you mentioned were still with us King would have succeeded in achieving the results we saw on Sunday.

Which parts of the quoted comment were myths?

I wouldn't be surprised if Darcy is a late out for Cox whose sole instruction will be to knee and crash Max at every opportunity. After all he has made a career out of that role whenever we played against him. He is a nasty sniper! And I hope Petty gives him some of his own medicine - Petty being the player with a bit of a nasty streak! And not afraid to give a bit back! King will have a plan if that is a late change, having spent several years with the cagey 'late change' trickery coach: Scott.

The extra GA are usually when expected attendance is low. When the Android access problem is fixed they should appear with the Trident ticket. In the meantime we contact the club.

Thanks SA! Totally agree about it being foreseen - it doesn't say much for their 'pre going live testing' nor the nous of the implementation team. I'm surprised it hasn't hit the media as apparently members of all clubs with Androids are affected! I asked our membership office about the extra GA tickets often sent to Premium members but those of us with Androids can't access them. They said to call or email the club before the relevant game and they will send them.

Curious as how this panned out? I had the same problem, queued up before the game and was told it was a Ticketmaster/MFC account link issue. I just called the club and was told all members across the AFL with Android phones are affected and it has been escalated to the AFL to sort out with Ticketmaster. No timeline on when it will be fixed. Not wanting to doubt that info wondering if other members with Androids had the problem accessing tickets.

Correct. Surprisingly neither coach had Max as BOG.

But they did talk on the phone - King was pretty busy with the GF at the time. We don't know the details of that discussion. And from what we now know Lamb was hell bent on moving him, Oliver and May out. Trac would have known that from the exit interviews, mfc grapevine etc so it would be fair to say there was little value in meeting with King.

This thread https://demonland.com/forums/topic/66964-exclusive-interview-with-paul-guerra-steven-king-steven-smith/#comment-2756682 makes a strong case for the whole club being in one location. Management and the Board would have been closer to what was happening in the FD and the locker room rather than having it filtered by the coach, GMFD, CEO.

Two comments stood out for me: "Goodwin felt betrayed by Richardson". It seems lack of trust wasn't limited to the locker room! Its no wonder the FD as a whole ended up such a mess. "King was open to keeping premiership stars if list boss Tim Lamb wanted to ... but Lamb made it clear that moving on Oliver, Petracca and May, even messily, was best for the club." With Goodwin gone Lamb had clear air to make critical list management decisions that were long overdue.

Everyone looks better in red and blue ❤️💙🙂

Not bad given he played only 77% game time! Thoroughly deserved BOG.

And that is exactly what he wants. Going to GCS shows the big crowd/big club stuff was a bit of a furphy made up by media and disgruntled fans.

Some fact checks: He did not add an extra year to his contract. To say we didn't get his best in the last few years is totally wrong. In 2024 he played 12.5 games and still ended up 20th in the Brownlow and was mfc highest vote scorer. When he was injured we were equal 7th on the ladder. (11th on %). Our 2024 season crashed after he was injured. 2025 wasn't his best but it was still very good. He didn't have the speed with us. At mfc his training was for a power/burst role. Now it looks like GCS have modified his training regime to include speed, making him a more balanced player. Even his body shape looks a bit different. He didn't have the accuracy when he played with us. G Lyon said he has been working with GCS kicking coach. Did we have one? Our team was full of other 'pie floater' players. And GCS fwd of centre is more open whereas our players kicked into congestion. Goal kicking, set shots were poor but shots on the run and snap shots were very good with us. He wants to play for a big club. Clearly that isn't true. He plays in a different team, to a different game plan with clearly motivated players, advantages he didn't have in recent years at mfc. So folks, think or do some research before posting myths dressed up as facts.

Quite right loyalty and honouring contracts goes both ways. How much did the club show Oliver and May? And while it was a different regime, to Jr Mac? To Watts. To Hogan. People will say different circumstances but folks can't cherry pick examples that suit their biases. Btw, no matter how disappointed people are the last line is quite distasteful.

Hey Dz ... what happens in 15 weeks ... trade week is more like 26/27 weeks away

I reckon it will be TA and either Coll or Rich as TA use will mainly be in the footy offseason/preseason.

Like many other games of recent years, the GWS win was a leadership vacuum issue; not so much GWS playing in OR. Max was taken off the ground late in 4th qtr. Their makeshift ruckman then marked i50 and goaled virtually on the siren. While Max and Viney are very fine leaders in the trenches and lead by example there isn't much footy IQ or tactical nous there. fwiw. I reckon we will be 3-3 or with a bit of luck 4-2.

Effectively a two year extension. Good for us and keeps him out of Tassie's clutches - he was on their hit list!

May's contract gone end of this year. End of 2027 Max will have retired or if he stays probably on much less $. Ditto end of 2028 for Steele, Viney, Mihocek. That should all add to quite a few dollars ... $3m? by end of 2028. The club can move other contracts forward or back around the above known salary space. Plus the ability to under/over spend the cap so smooth it over several years. No need to worry. Sal cap is a bit smoke and mirrors!

Joined Collingwood a few weeks ago. https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/1947981/greg-stafford

The issue with Casey and Waverly is the lack of effective public transport. It isn't just players and coaches. Currently we would have lots of admin staff and FD staff that don't need to go to training (but sometimes do) who live on all sides of the CBD/MCG. We risk losing them located at sites lacking public transport to attend 5 days per week. And we would find it harder to attract new staff to those locations. Caulfield works because it is very well served with trains and trams directly from Flinders St and Richmond stations.