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In one way I agree. I just dont think Jones has the talent of a selwood or a dangerfield so in my opinion he shouldnt be compared to them. Its a different sort of inspiration he brings. He stood tall pyschologically when the club was falling backwards . He held a light up to the young players showing by example how to prepare your body and all the extras needed to get the most out of yourself. I dont know as Im not around the club but I imagine that when Jones talks standards players listen. THAT type of leadership is what has improved this club and in part what will help drive the Brayshaws, olivers and Petraccas etc to be elite ...let them "drag the team over the line" now Jones may not dominate games like he did, or like Selwood or Danger have, " drag the team over the line" with individual brilliance. But, as a player that has got the absolute maximum out of himself, became a a battering ram to protect the younger bodies coming through, and driven others around him to reach their potentials , then he IS elite. I, for one, feel is one of the best leaders we've ever had.

Boom...nailed it.

I live interstate and haven’t seen baker live yet. But watching on tv he just doesn’t look ready to me. If we were bottom 4 and blooding young players as we would “normally” be in August , then sure give him a run. But given the tightness of the company, every goal we get and give away against Gold Coast could yet b vital. Leave him be fr 2018, Get another pre season into him.

Will b great to see Hunt back in action... I still think he’s part of the dees strongest line up.

Clearly not right is he. Didnt look like himself at all. He draws an extra defender which is why they left hm on the ground I think but, like many here, I think we need to rest him. We need a fit JH in the last couple of games.We also have Smith and Weid and Pedo that can all play his role better than he played it ( in the state he was in) last night.

Great news. He's Arriving into his real potential now and forming part of what must be one of the most talented young midfield groups in the comp.

Saturdays game convinced me we need Gaff..

of the 10,000 things that are troubling me about the dees atm Max's form def isnt on the list. Agree though, it wasnt his best night and to top it all off he was cruelled at the end with the blood rule. tragic.

I agree its sad as JKH, imo, is exactly caught in the middle in terms of abilty between AFL and VFL. Not his fault. Lacks pace and intensity and just isnt up to the grade. Pace of the game leaves him for dead. We cant pick him again.

1. Oliver. Continues to blow me away and he's played just 50 games. 2. Harmes' continued development as a tagger. Did a massive job last night. 3. Others may disagree..but I thought Frost was fantastic when he went onto Hawkins. 4. ( i know its only supposed to be three...but I need to add that into back that team, that SHOULD have smashed Geelong, comes HIbberd, Viney and next year Lever and , cross fingers, Gaff. We're getting v close to being elite)

Somewhat recovered today. An analogy came to me today. Feel like I somehow landed a date with Scarlett Johansen and somehow managed to impress her enough to get into her into the bedroom...but then was tragically unable to get it up. Failed at the final hurdle. Deep down I feel proud of the boys...Geelong at Geelong in a match of the round and realistically bar their stupid accuracy its a game we should have won. I think thats now 3 times in a row I feel like they were lucky to win. But we are just soooo close to being the genuine article.

I thought Frost was really good when he went to him. If hed gone earlier might be different but he did show something Frosty,

that might have been an assumption...as many have made on here. In fact maybe that "news" came right off this site. Lets wait til we hear from the club. Im liking Rustys info until proven otherwise.

Happy for any good news Rusty....but how reliable is your source? 2-3 would be a massive relief if you're right. Could be we get Hunt, Viney, Hibberd back all around the same time. And yes I know Hunt was playing in the Magoos when injured but cant help but feel how much we're missing him atm.

On the positive IF we can somehow scrape/ fluke/ edge our way into the finals. We get Viney and hibberd bk fresh. But .... I agree. Club is cursed. Memories of 1995 when Schwartz, tingay, Charles , Lyon, , jakovich all had virtually career ending injuries. We’re going to have to b lucky now. Feel like we’re gonna be one win short. Can’t help but see the High irony if Gawn, having the best season fr the club I can almost remember post flower, may have in part cost us a finals spot in round 1.

Viney, Hibberd and Lever FMD. Probably 3 of our most important 10 out for most of the massive games we have coming up to get to the finals. We're officially hard up against it now. Multiple Injuries happening now at the most crucial time of the season. The footy gods hate us Im sure. Jeez he's a big out. So...smith comes in for Hibberd and probably Tyson comes in also. Sigh. We're going backwards.

agreed! averaging 3 goals a game now

we're def not looking like the better side. Their attacking thrusts look far faster and more dangerous. Sadly, I think we're going down here. We could lose this by 6 goals

get FLOGGED in the clearances and no chance

doggies just like the saints moving it by hand fast and opening us up in the back half. Already been discussed how sides can do this to us. Saints openly talked about it after the game...SURELY they have something up their sleeve?????

missing Viney for games against Adelaide and Geelong is really tough. Makes winning today even more important. Im no doctor to know how long a "stress" takes to heal. But, presuming he got to it early, does anyone know anything about this kind of thing? As much as I hate to say it it may even be best to just rest him til 2019. His not a player we can lose long term through mismanagement. As I said Im no doctor but Im also curious about just how much heart ache can we actually bear until we explode or catch fire?

[censored] me. this kicking is reminding me of the Geelong game last year......lets hope its not a repeat.

I loved his presser. He gave it to the payers in private ( as he should have) and backed them up in the press (as he should have). Neeld threw the players under the bus publicly and look how that turned out. Its a young group they dont need even more public scrutiny than they are already getting. Goodwin is all class imo. We're all hurting...but imo he's handling it well with the press at least.

Roos is gone and aint never coming back so forget that. Goodwin has some excellent traits and the players apparantly love him, but he's still learning. We see him now, perhpas for the first time in his career, under real heat. Lets see how he goes and how the team performs. And....All of those who were complaining about the acquisition of lever can now see just how pivotal a recruit he was. Sucks we lost him. No easy cover for us.