The Third Eye

Not sure what Moloney expected from a new coach coming to the club. True, he was the reigning b & f but he had been involved in that night club incident and had also tried to leave the club at the end of the season. That to me already suggests he had a fractured relationship with the club and to expect special treatment and an easy entree to the captaincy in those circumstances would have been delusional.

Talking about an apology she owes Brayshaw and North.

Not even the many clear errors and omissions of fact that seem to have tainted her work of late and have been demonstrated in this thread?Do yourself a favour and don't watch Footy Classified tomorrow night. It should be a humbling experience for muckrakers and their apologists.

Now that Liam Jurrah has been acquitted, he's expressed the desire to return to play in the AFL in 2014 - Not guilty and Jurrah dreams of return to AFL. The article says that ... "The earliest he could get back into the AFL system is 2014 and he would need to be picked in the national or pre-season drafts for that to happen. The most likely path is to join a state league club and play well enough to demand attention in the draft." Liam has lots of issues in SA where all he's had has been heartbreak but he thrived for most of the time he was at Melbourne and mentored by RudeBoy. Would the club welcome him and encourage an association between Jurrah and Casey or would it treat him like Fev a couple of years back?

Big night for the Demons. Essendon's big win against GWS means we automatically move up one place on the 2013 NAB Cup ladder. Onward and upward Dees!!!

Not Demetriou?

So despite the fact that a number of people claimed to have knowledge of what Caro knew and what the AFL knew is not suggestive that there were others involved apart from the four who snitched or that the four never consulted anyone else about snitching?

Richard Hinds is not a bad journo but to echo the words of Caroline Wilson, he has no credibility in respect to the remarks he made about Jeff Kennett's appearance on Footy Classified last week. In the first instance because he's a workmate of the person Kennett replaced and in the second because Kennett is not just a retired politician but also because he's a former president of a major AFL club. Did Hinds not know this or is he hiding away from this fact in his haste to act as apologist for Wilson?

Keogh over at Tanking Carlton

If we lost scumbags like McLean and Scully over this issue then it was well and truly worth the 500k and I would certainly be happy to kick some money into any fund to recoup the monetary loss for the club.

Schwab was clearly in CW's sights and Caro, aided and abetted by media and her our own sources have been waging a losing battle to cause embarrassment. It's been going on for yonks

You're talking about Neanderthals who mostly have no idea of the facts or issues. If you want a definition of groupthink, it's all there.

Pretty sure we got the Biz in a trade.

The intraclub's on the 15th February.

I've been over there for a look and I reckon it wouldn't take many Demonlanders to join up and the average IQ would double or even triple!

I suspect that whatever happens, it will all be done for show and the end result won't be too embarrassing for either the AFL or the MFC. With the ramifications of the Essendon situation up in the air, the AFL won't be all that keen on the tanking issue growing legs. It wouldn't take much - a disgruntled ex-player or official from another club and the sport will be immersed in scandal for the whole season and perhaps beyond.

Melbourne Demons respond to tanking allegations The AFL report has grown an extra 200 pages from 800 to 1,000.

Gilbee? Must have been drinking gin and tonics.

It follows that you think the previous board were fools because Paul Gardner says we didn't tank when he was around.

Well I'll be gawn!

I understand that a certain ultra high priced Essendon recruit who they are pinning their hopes on, fell out of favour with his former coach because he refused to tag an opponent one day. Flat out refused. That is a formula for failure if there ever was one.

Brett Lovett was recruited from Hawthorn.

The rule hasn't changed since the start of the inquisition.

Could someone please define "flaming" for me? I believe that it's supposed to be banned on this site.

It's not look what other clubs are doing that's the problem. It's what the AFL said was in order and what all clubs including Melbourne did that's at the heart of the matter. At that point you're entitled to ask questions of the sort Sue is asking.