Maldonboy38

I thought his centre bounce work was great. But apart from that he was truly hopeless. Why can't he pick up the ball off the ground when there is no pressure? Has to be Casey-bound now that Gawn is ready to go.

Great to see Jetta, Bail and Evans get a gig. They all play with natural grunt and run. I hope Tappy can reproduce his Casey form - at least in some regard. I simply cannot believe Pedersen is in. He lacks the intensity of all the other ins. This team looks a lot more balanced.

One of the CEO or Club President need to be a high profile, media savvy person, but not both of them. I'm OK with McLardy staying but only if we get a CEO with some urgency, passion and profile. If we get a CEO whose skills are more "behind the scenes", then move McLardy on and make that the high profile position.

Even though I have been as deflated as a Collingwood-supporting-dentist over the past week, and have posted about no longer being able to emotionally invest... I just can't help myself. I will rearrange my day tomorrow and get to training somehow. Red and Blue until I die. Edit: I just posted it on my Facebook page. Heaps of my extended family are supporters and/or members. Can't wait to get there.

Just remember that the CEO's main job is to oversee the club as a business, and to tie the life of the club into a business model that works. From this, onfield success is supposed to be a natural, organic product of club cohesion.

I agree this needed to happen, and Connolly will be gone soon also I reckon. But our main needs are on the oval. It has to do with coaching, playing and uniting in a confident footy environment. I can't see the Schwab removal/sacking having too much influence on the ground.

The Ox is a lot sharper, deeper and smarter than his radio personality demonstrates, but he is neither president nor board material. I really like him on radio, and in his gambling ambassador role there is real substance - these are the places he excels. There is the great risk that he could rise to the level of his incompetence. Our new leader has to have a strong work ethic, be able to draw sponsors, speak well in the media, work through vision and strategy, and LEAD in a professional environment. Greg Healy is a strong possibility Has Leoncelli got any runs on the board?

Matthews - YES PLEASE Roos - at least he would shut up bagging us Sheedy - maybe, but I agree with Return to Glory, he is a dead set [censored]. But Neeld for a little while longer night be just as good.

What I would like to see: OUT: Gillies (please never again), Watts, Toumpas, Sylvia, Sellar, Nicho, IN: Gawn, McKenzie, Dunn, Jetta, Tappy,Strauss or Evans What is likely: OUT: Gillies, Toumpas, Nicho IN: McKenzie, Dunn, Tappy We also need Magner - he has a touch of mongrel - but we can't get him.

Unless something changes a lot over the next 4 - 6 weeks I can see him either leaving the Dees or leaving footy. I hope he can come back but I personally believe he is not an AFL footballer. Pity - he could be a gun.

our zone set-up to be rearranged or discarded? players like Jetta, Strauss, Tynan, Taggert, Davis, Fitzpatrick - even Clisby, Stark and Barry - to be given a run of games? Cameron Schwab to step aside? What do you think it is time for ?(wrist slashing is not an acceptable answer)

Howe was good tonight - I'll give you that, but early on he dropped a couple of easy ones so had to include him.

We are not "abandoning the club", we are expressing what we feel. We are the people who buy memberships, go to games, attend club functions, and type on computers into depressing internet forums in a state of rage, etc... We are the staunch supporters. We crave success. We crave effort. We crave unity. We crave footy excellence.

Tom Gillies - what did the recruiters see? Jack Watts - I have been in his corner for the whole 4 years. But he is not an AFL footballer. Absolutely horrible and embarrassing tonight. Dropped chest marks - Jamar, Watts, Nicho, Howe Spread - we can't and we don't. Forward or back. Was Heppel covered in dung and no-one liked getting near him? Footy involves running. We didn't. I think our midfield coach is Brian Royal. Sack him.

Learning is an important part of coaching, but our boys lack fire. It is the senior coach's job to inspire.

I was - unfortunately - at the game and haven't seen the footage, but my wife said it was the most uninspiring, "down" kind of thing she has seen. Can anyone provide a link for me to watch it?

The AFL will definitely have some conversations with the MFC this week. This was a free-to-air, 50,000+ attendance, Saturday night game, and played like we are not VFL standard. But the club is not the problem. We have new training facilities, no debt, new sponsors etc... This is a player / coach thing. Something is seriously wrong in the dressing room.

I will follow the Red and Blue for the rest of my life. But I can't see a membership renewal on the cards. I can't emotionally invest any more. I reckon I'm done. No more scarves, membership cards, attending club functions, attending with my kids etc... It really hurts tonight.

I reckon they using some internal measures to determine who is in and out, because from the outside it is difficult to understand. I cannot see how Gillies holds his spot when it seems like Tom McDonald is a perfect swap for him. Also, I can't see who he matches up on for the Bombers. And Jetta for Nicholson does seem right.

Who has he "protected"? And he get involved WHEN HE IS INVITED, not sticking his nose in.

Watching Smedts and Blicavs go after the ball with 2nd and 3rd efforts as if they would rather die than let their mates down just made me angrier and angrier. Selwood, Bartel etc... have set such a high standard of effort that no player can get in that side unless they show similar determination and urgency. Why have we not set this same standard?

I cannot for the life of me understand why a person like Garry Lyon cops so much distaste and vitriol. So many screaming "get in there 100% or rack off". There are a lot of people on this forum who think they know what Lyon's skills are, and reckon he is wasting them in the media. He will not coach because he has said repeatedly that he doesn't enjoy it, and doesn't have the attention to detail. He will not enter the club at an official level because he hates club politics. He will do his bit as a pinch-hitter when he is invited in - which has done. He is not our Messiah. The stuff he says about our pathetic club is some of the clearest, most concise and clear commentary across the media and we should be grateful that he is in the position he is in.

Neeld: They are still booing. No, don't turn round!!

The problem does not exist at an administration level. We have: No debt State of the art training facilities Over 30,000 members A push into Darwin. Everything is set for a club to thrive. It is the players and coaches that need a rocket. We need passion, heart, effort, intensity and grunt during games. We need to see creativity and flair from players who have it - Howe, Blease, Davey, Clark etc... And we need to see our coach coaching, not just training.

Play form players - Jetta, Terlich, Evans Tell Jamar not to tap the ball only one metre away from his feet. Give it a belt wide of the congestion and let Toumpas, Sylvia etc.. to run on to it. When we have the ball, run and be creative. Run, run, run, run, run.