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Geezzzzz. Easy set shot misses will cost Saints dearly. Scott is such a bloody whinger......like his brother.

But another marketing opportunity for a big club in a prime time slot. Land I bet they won't get many fewer next year.

Pretty pathetic crowd for a "power club" with a winnable game on a Friday night time slot. Yet we don't get any Friday night games because we don't draw crowds!!?? We would have done far better tonight IMO. Just typical of the AFL's playing favorites - keep the rich rich and the poor dependent. PS Fremantle are pathetic tankers. PPS Who is that 38 Collingwood who can't tackle correctly?

SWYL - I suspect that Dr G was asking you for examples, not how it is done. I too would be interested who you think would be suitable, available and willing.

From the limited footage I have seen of him - I have not watched EssUndone games since their systematic cheating scheme was first revealed - he certainly doesn't appear to be slow though. And he can kick!

After no preseason to speak of and three games, two of which were wet (one absolute quagmire) and you write him off! Like many reasonable folk here I will give him next preseason and next year before I even consider that.

Surely that is the one thing he is consistent with....missing the mark. If he took them regularly he could be up there B+ or A

Of course none of us, or anyone else for that matter can be sure of anything. Was it 2005 that Hawks fans were calling for Clarkson's head, and maybe early 2007 Geelong fans called for Thompson to be sacked. Things can change quickly with a talented list when things go right. GO DEES

He can easily end that. And only he can Invest further, heavily, in this rare investment and get Ox, Neita, or even Dunstall or (God forbid) the Dive Bomber to spend a lot of time with him learning then perfecting how to kick set shots. Any sum would be worth it. As much time as he needs. Just do it.

LOL, I really did?? Spencer is our only ready to go back up ruck and you think he will be delisted or traded ?? Seriously ?? If Casey didn't have yet another bloody bye he could be nearly match ready but they do and he won't.

We have many more and better quality mids than in previous years but the Swans have more mature hardened bodies and have been playing as a unit far longer. We are getting there compare our mid unit with one or two years back. Good observation.

I certainly only saw bits of the game but I find it interesting to observe that in a game against a very mature battle hardened side in awfully challenging conditions Hunt and Wagner appear frequently in the posters' assessment of better players on this site. Would anyone in their wildest dreams have thought that this could happen prior to the season? Good recruiting, great development. Hats off to those departments. Now on to a reformation of the selection panel.

Umpires have absolutely no feel for the game. Deliberate against Rohan!! Absurd.

Jones goes for the ball - 2 opponents take him around the neck- HTB!! FFS!

A mature experienced team will always do well on s day like today. The guys are trying their guts out but not up to it.

Not sure that they have given up but just not good enough AND NOT THE RIGHT PLAYERS THERE FOR THE CONDITIONS.

Just who is on the selection panel? It is The Achilles heel of our developing club right now

And s free and goal to the favoured one

Anyone who saw the Casey game today: Hulett kicked a bag of goals but wasn't mentioned in the better players. Just right place right time or what? Did the bag enhance his prospects? What position (such as they are these days) did he play? Was the absence of the Weed a help to him? Thanks.

The AFL should get off their arses and somehow run a deal with the VFL and ensure that this absolutely pathetic counterproductive succession of byes does not happen again starting 2017. They need to either add a club or remove a club, perhaps through mergers. Amateurish management of what should be, or at least claims to be the support competition for Victorian clubs .

There seems to be a bit of confusion across these boards - is he not rookie listed? The medical / fitness guys will also have their work cut out too.

Game just gifted to the Hawks. Bastards.

Much as I dislike Norf, ONG the Hawks are being handed the game by some very critical bad umpiring decisions, and I have only watched the second half.

Maybe we need talls to keep their heads above the tide? :-))

ANB and M Jones are not named in the 25