Early on I said to some prominant members that I didn't think he'd cut it but I was also there at Visy Park where he took on Jacobs & co.-and I felt he held his own before tiring. If he can get himself fit- due to his health condition he will make it- actually could be more than alright. I also saw him in the Under 16's where I thought he was as good as Butcher as a developing key forward player. Good luck Jack, I hope you make it.