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Tim Watson should be made to eat socks during the commentary. His superiority & arrogant way is an insult to the ears. Tim Watson what a pain, he is a legend in his own wallet. obviously has far too much power at channel 7.

I think Oscar has the ability to be a great player. A better kick than Tom IMO, & seems to have better touch. He needs to string a number of games together to get into a groove & show where he is at.

Dunn is dusted, & for the end of season barbecue chop. Possibly heading North to retire, after some sun & beaches.

I think I would prefer a Dion, to either ! I think Lyndon & Frank will be looking elsewhere at end of 2016? What's changed off field in that timeframe?

I don't know Abe ? How could we go about it ?

I think the 6'3" Tomlinson could make an excellent running CHB. Like Ross Glendinning was as a 6'2" CHB. I think it would suit this zoned game.

one can only hope ! and so say all of us. we need all the father/sons/daughters, witch we can muster

White? Yze, I think will go Holland? Neita will finish. Mcdonald I think can go on in 2009 ______________________________ Some will be traded next year, - Bruce?

see edit above.

Not starting from scratch. we started recruiting well from when we got Mclean & Sylvia & then on. It's the 25s & over that we must replace whilst putting games into the heads of our young brigade. Keep on recruiting kids Cac & Bails.

Longevity, we are Dean Baileys renovation.

Kennedy doesn't want to go. What about one of our players for Kennedy? (edit) one of our players to carlton for Kennedy, we get kennedy, they send maybe green or a (carroll+) to eagles + 3 + 20 something like this.

fun on the night? I left during the 3rd qtr in absolute disgust & bewilderment. <_<

Recent events seem to have put a different slant on proceedings, would you say?

Whats the latest with Cameron Wood?

Oh yeah, well I'll match that 'n' raise ya a Peter Giles & Glen Giles. Glen was definately the Tarzan & not the Jane.

I'm with you 'dean ox', I think we need a real big KPP. We have enough mobile lithe light bodied 191cm 194cm players. If we were to get Judd then that would satisfy the midfield need @ the moment, as long as we don't lose any to trades of our kids. We do need a POWER KPP.

& could have had Lockett & Frawley! B)

"This may seem harsh trading up Bruce, Green, White and Johnstone.Especially as trading White will leave us without a number 1 ruckman. However, White will retire within a couple of years and does anyone honestly believe we have what it takes to win a flag by then. I would suggest trading to St. Kilda and Fremantle as these are the only clubs in the bottom 8 who would consider themselves a chance to win a flag in the near future and would be looking to 'top up'. I mean, White, Johnstone, Bruce and Green are all quality players. I agree with you, but I think your combinations might need minimal tweaking." These sides & also Carlton may just be interested in a deal. Add to the combo', Caroll, CJ or PJ. Carlton might like PJ, with Travis feeding the Fev. The Doggies might like White + Robbo/Bruce. Sainters might like a combo of White/PJ + Robbo. We do need to build & freshen our list before we can be a serious challenger. This current list has allready peaked & is sliding.

I'm starting to think that Carlton & the Tige's both may go for KPP's with there first picks. From what I know they both seem to have weak defences so therefore may go for Rance firstup. They'll want a player who'll be ready to play round 1 & as both have reasonable running players I think they will go for Class tall KPs.

Some info on the taller draft picks courtesy of Big Footy..... (Borrowed from saintsational) Matt Kreuzer-199cm, 91kg-Northern Knights. (ruck) The most talked about player in the draft and for pretty good reason. His tap work is good but he holds his own more than dominates. It is around the ground where his class shows. He simply moves around like another midfielder. Has clean hands and good skills and can tackle. Has great running ability and gets to contests all around the ground. To put it plainly guys his size who can play like midfielders are too good to pass up. Top 5 pick. Alex Rance-194cm, 87kg-Swan Districts. ( CHB/FB). The star defender of the National champs. His run out of defence was great. His defensive work was excellent. Has good pace and skills for a big bloke. He worked in well with Browne and Meyers to give WA the killer dash from defence. His handballing was creative and he hits targets by foot. He is simply a defender that every club will rate. Top 15 pick. Ben McEvoy-199cm, 90kg-Murray Bushrangers. (Ruck, fwd) He has been on the radar for a while and has had good form this year. He was one of Country’s best performers during the champs playing in the ruck and up forward. He looks to have good endurance and moves around the ground well but he is not blessed with a lot of pace. His ruckwork is pretty good and he can read the play. His kicking skills are very good and he can take a good contested mark. He is the type of ruckman that can ruck for a good portion of the match. Where he goes in the draft will be interesting. Pick 10 to 30 Tom Collier – 192cm, 86kg-Lauderdale TAS. ( RR/CHB). I have Tom in my midfield review as well but he has to be in the backs too given he has played a lot at CHB. Not sure if he will have the height to be an outright KP player but he certainly can play the running half back role and his defensive skills are good. Uses the footy well. Reads the game well. There is no doubt clubs will like his ability to play back or in the middle. Top 25 pick. Tate Pears-192cm, 90kg-East Perth-(CHB/HBF). Played at CHB for WA in the champs and played well. Like Collier is probably a bit short of the prototype CHB but he simply gets the job done. Plays tight but knows when to run off. Like his team mates he gave WA great run from defence. He has shown he can spoil well and has played forward at times with East Perth colts and kicked a goal. Pick 15 to 40. Thomas Bellchambers-199cm, 91kg-Northern Bombers. (Ruck). Tasmania’s number one ruckman who’s tap work during the champs was very good. Gets in good positions to hit the ball to his team mates but he can be prone to hitting to nothing spots at times. He has a bit or work to do as far as his around the ground stuff goes. He can take a nice mark and kicks the footy ok for a big bloke. I think someone will take a punt on him simply because of his tap skills. Pick 20 to 50. Lachie Henderson-196cm, 90kg-Geelong Falcons.(Fwd). Hard to line up this year because he has been injured and missed a lot of the season. Played some good footy last year and he was good around the ground and a good mark. Played pretty well in last years TAC Cup finals which pretty much has to be the guide as he has only played two games this year for the Falcons and I have only seen one of them. He has played in the ruck a bit so far but I don’t think he has the height or leap to be an AFL ruckman. His kicking is good for a big bloke. I am not really sure where he will go in the draft. Pick 15 to 40 Darcy Daniher – 192cm, 80kg-Calder Cannons. (CHB) Darcy has been played forward and back, sometimes in the same game, all year in the TAC Cup. When he has played forward he has shown he can kick goals. Can take a good grab and he is a free flowing runner who moves around the ground well. During the Champs he played mainly in defence and although he was not a stand out he did play pretty well. His kicking is pretty strong and he hits targets pretty well. Has had a lot of games where he has had 15 to 20 disposals which isn’t bad for a big bloke. Hasn’t really been outstanding too often but has played solid footy all the way through. Pick 20 to 50. Steve Gaertner-196cm, 83kg-Dandenong Stingrays. (Fwd). Interesting player this bloke. In the games I have seen him play he has certainly looked very athletic with good pace for a big man and pretty good skills. The problem with him when I have been watching is he often looks like he is going to take a game apart only to fade out of the game. Looks like he is on fire but it only last 10 minutes or so. When he is on song he can take a strong grab. Pick 20 to 50. Scott Simpson-194cm, 91kg-Dandenong Stingrays. (Fwd). Good contested marking forward who is a reasonable goal kicker. He has played a bit in the ruck as well but I am not sure he will be big enough to ruck at AFL level. Like Gaertner he looks like he is about to tear a game apart at times but it never really seems to happen. The way he moves around and plays I think he has a huge upside if he can find some consistency. Pick 20 to 40. Andrew Renton-202cm, 94kg-Eastern Rangers. (Ruck). Good size ruckman who has done well for Rangers this year. His tap work is good but he could learn to better direct some of his hit outs. He also has to learn that he must jump at all the ruck contests as he sometimes tries to rely on just his height. When he actually does jump at a contest he looks very good. He is a good mark and his kicking is reliable but he needs to do more around the ground and he wanders from contest to contest a lot of the time rather than getting involved. Can take a grab and kick a goal when he is up forward. Someone will take a punt on him and hope they can get his work rate up to match his raw talent. Pick 25 to 60. James Mulligan-201cm, 96kg-Southport. (Ruck). I have only seen him play three games and he hasn’t really done a lot but in small patch’s he has shown some raw talent. He is mobile. He can kick the footy a mile and can take a mark. Doesn’t do nearly enough around the ground or in the ruck for that matter. Like Renton I think someone will take a chance with him simply because of the raw product. Pick 40 plus. Dave Gourdis-193cm, 88kg-Subiaco. (CHF) Impressed for WA at CHF during the champs. Good sized kid who was very mobile and a good shot at gaol. Kicking skills are pretty good and he was prepared to work hard to present as a target. Seemed to read the play very well and knew where to lead so he could get himself in the game. Pick 10 to 40. Dan McKenna-194cm, 82kg-Gippsland Power. (FWD / BCK). Has had a bit of an up and down year playing in a strong side. Has been used at CHF and CHB during the year. Had some good early form as a key forward but it has dropped of a little as the season has gone on. Had a reasonable time at the Champs without being a star. Has shown some sort of ability to read the play as a back man and he can spoil well if needed. Is pretty lightly built at the moment. Pick 25 to 60. http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewtop...6d9baae51488e2d

Pick the 2 Biggest weaknesses of each team. ?/Geelong ?/P Adelaide ?West Coast ?/Kangaroos ?/Hawthorn ?/Collingwood ?/Sydney ?/Adelaide 9/St Kilda nk 8/Brisbane 7/Fremantle 6/Essendon 5/W Bulldogs 4/Melbourne 3/Carlton 2/Richmond P*Carlton

MADMONDAYITUS.

I want us to draft 2 speedy midfielders (hard, outside + inside skilled runners), wing + h/back. 1 big bodied tall KPP that can swing @ both ends, crash + pack mark up front / & tame gorilla's. :D http://www.ais.org.au/austrules/henderson.asp If White goes, promote Neaves & draft/rookie ruckman, or if not rookie Neaves for a further year. For further back in the draft there are a couple of possibilities, Paterakis, Valenti, Monaghan, S Martin. http://www.sandringhamfc.com.au/default.as...&aid=120306 Henderson sounds the goods. Now lets do the hard yards & be aggressive & trade a package of players with talent that don't fit our landscape in return for a top 10 pick. Pick 4 = Henderson Pick 7-10 Ebert/Palmer Geelong P Adelaide West Coast Kangaroos Hawthorn Collingwood Sydney Adelaide 9/St Kilda Require a ruckman I think 8/Brisbane 7/Fremantle ?? 6/Essendon 5/W Bulldogs Doggies want rucks & Forwards 4/Melbourne 3/Carlton 2/Richmond P*Carlton

I've heard that Jamar has bone spurs on both heels & has played all this year under duress.