jnrmac

Correct on point 1. The bitterness stems from the deal which was agreed between EFC, AFL and Fed Govt and for which they received a draft letter from Gillard. This was rescinded or not proceeded with when Hird heard about the Cronulla deal and wanted similar. Hird was then 'thrown under a bus' according to himself and has been eternally bitter.

No Vlad called David Evans because he had ample evidence and tip offs about what they were doing.

Not at all this is a simple foi request. You ask for the broadest possible info to see what turns up. It's a fishing expedition. If anything they will try to relate that to how the EFC were treated.

F*** The MFCSS is alive and well.

He was a partner/shareholder but I understand when he left he sold out of his shareholding.

Gemba

I can't for the life of me entertain the notion of James "drug cheat" Hird coming to our club. He was the architect of the program. The membership will go nuts. And besides there is no evidence he is any good. My mail is that he was very much disliked at his previous employer and they were very happy to see him gone.

No. It just wasn't. Ethan is on the money. The stock market didn't technically crash. It did fall but well and truly after debt markets blew up. Your simplistic statement that the GFC was caused by share prices not being supported by profits is pure nonsense. Sorry.

err no it was't. Not even close. Back to school for you....

And we chose Jurrah as a rookie ahead of Rockliff who we had 'promised' a spot to...... Man, we stuffed up some recruiting......

Wrong.

Rattan complained to the AFL.........

Had to be said...

Yep. In the Bluey Oscar averaged 2.5 votes out of 10 in the games he played last year. They know exactly where Oscar is at.

Judd had crook shoulders, .......just sayin....

Me? I am just whelmed.

Bunnings have pedestal fans at $11.98 this week.....

That's nice but its not a sound basis for drafting. Plenty of clubs have been down this path, thinking they are close to a flag and botching it with some mature age players. Port may do well but they have drafted two very inconsistent players in Watts and Motlop. Rockliff is a workhorse, meat and potatoes kind of player but not particularly damaging. They had a pretty good run in 2018 with injuries and maybe have over-estimated where they are as a list. Will be watched with interest in 2018.

Nah we're not. We always overate our list. We barely have 2 players in most independent top 50 lists...

Haven't really thought about it but I imagine that Vince and Lewis would be at the top of the list given their age, possibly Jones whose output has been prolific but his body taken a beating in the past few years. I could also imagine Oliver performing lower than last year's stellar performance as he gets tagged more often. Similarly with Hunt given the oppositions focus on him in the second half of the season and his lower output as a result. We might have also seen the best of Vanders - think it would be hard for him to improve given his age and injury history. I know some here love OMac but I haven't seen much that says to me he'll be an 'A' grade player as P-Man above suggests and in fact could well see him stagnate or go backwards as the overall team improves. His average votes of 2.5 out of 10 from the coaches in 2017 games suggests to me he isn't tracking as some here seem to think. No doubt some will surprise on the upside and the downside. I just don't believe we will take 2017 as the baseline and everyone automatically stays the same or gets better.

What about players whose form will slide? The above assumes everyone will stay the same or get better. That just doesn't happen....

Good news for Jack. ripping bloke, I wish him well.

BTW Bugg is underated on here. Is a leading 3km time triallist with TMac, he has got talent that is arguably mis-directed at the moment. Gets to the ball and had he kicked 15 g 6b instead of 6g 15b from his 10 games we would be talking about him differently.

Potential schmentzel All that matters is that we have 38 players who are driven to get the best out of themselves. Jonesey, TMac, Viney are driven to win. While all players aren't the same, everyone needs to be on the same page when t comes to commitment to win. That's why you-know-who isn't here anymore.

Carlton have 4 number 1 draft picks in their side. They don't appear to be doing too well to me,