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Carlton have 4 number 1 draft picks in their side. They don't appear to be doing too well to me,

So being dropped by every coach is not a kick up the backside? FFS he even dropped himself to give himself a kick up the backside. Jack has even said he's not surprised. He has had more warnings than anybody on the list.

You need to get over yourself. Watts' best finish are 9th and 5th. In 9 years. He's a gun. He has performed worse than Sylvia. At least he finished 5th twice. Why can't you sycophants get over the fact that Jack was a serial under performer. As for the 6th before hammy. Its BS. Salem and Pederson played less games than Watts and finished above him. Kind of ruins your narrative doesn't it?

Because you are carrying on like a 12yo. Or maybe you are 12 years old.

How's North going with their aggressive trading strategy? Would you rather be in their shoes?

Can't believe he didn't get any votes in the Bluey for the 1 game he did play. The last Casey game was awesome. Could be a real find.

He played 5 more games for Freo than Michie!

As if anyone thinks you could just quietly sneak Watts out the back door! If the club was about making a statement on expectations then they made it. Good. They are on the hook as much as anyone for the decision. Great. I want everyone at the club to be burning to win a flag.

So you make an allegation and can't back it up. Classy mate. Pretty obvious who has a credibility issue I would have thought.

Fair call. Apologies from me as well.

Trade period is a journey for you Ron isn't it?

Jack Trengove...

Clutching at straws now Sue? I dodn't make that statement as a reason for getting rid of Watts. Rather I was responding to a poster that said Watts had been dropped by every coach. Best you don't let your emotions cloud your thinking. ALthough that might be too late.

Really? I'd like to see you find a post that says that. I am calling bs on you my fellow supporter. I hold Sylvia in a similar regard to Watts by the way. Wasted talent. They are a dime a dozen.

No I don't. I was responding to a post about the BnF not being a valid measure of a players performance. And a gold star for you seeing through the ruse of Goodwin....

it's ok 6 out of 5 people dont understand fractions....

when neither were actually in the top 8....

BS speculation again. Give it a rest. Watts was told home truths. That he was performing below that which is expected of a 9 year 150 game player. He was in a rut and might be better off exploring his opportunities at another club. He explored those and there was one taker with a pick at 31. What did you want to do differently oh great list management genius?

Interesting that nearly all of your posts are simply sniping at the club. You seem like a bit of a troll to me.

Two things: 1. It wasn't my post you were responding to, so your manipulation of the quote is duplicitous. 2. The B&F is the best measure of how the coaching staff view a player because only they know what he is instructed to do, whether it is done under injury duress and how successful he is against is task. Watts played more games thatn Pederson and Salem and yet was beaten in the B&F. That tells me a few things.

What does it tell you? It tells me that he was a liability to the playing group.

He even dropped himself which is unheard of in the AFL.

Yep. "The football club’s decision to trade Jack Watts has not just been made on what happens on the weekend, it’s the manifestation of all that happens throughout the summer months and the day-to-day training loads. It’s the endless hours of game review tapes and it’s the degree of urgency, intensity and desperation that they’ve sought over the years." The club will not improve with Jack Watts in the side. He would have added nothing more after 9 years on the senior list. It may not improve without Jack Watts. But the team that is charged with improving the side know better than any of the emotional nuffies here spouting BS about the 'heart and soul' of the team and may just well improve the culture of the side and add a terrific young player. Time will tell. Teams can't stand still, they have to keep turning over their lists to find the right comibination. The failure of Jack Watts to get the best out of himself lies with Jack Watts. He knew what he had to do and didn't do it. For him to claim he was shocked is a joke. The coaches have made the right call.

Bs argument about watts in the b&f. Salem and Pederson both played less games than Watts and finished ahead.

He said nothing specifically about ONFIELD. He said performance. That includes off field preparation as well. “It is a really important stage where Jack is at as an experienced player at the footy club with the amount of games he has played, with such a young list, he has a big influence on our young players. That’s what comes with being an experienced player ... he is very clear on our expectations about him. “We don’t want to be having these discussions with Jack Watts after nine years. We want him to be the player he should be and that’s where these discussions have got to.”