Redleg

Agree 100%.

Blues fans have knocked Ratts for a couple of years and can't wait to get rid of him. I asked a few who want him gone what would they do if they made the GF or even Prelim this year and they changed and said oh well we suppose he should stay. So that means to them a good coach is one who makes the Prelim. Should Eade be sacked after several Prelims as Dogs haven't made the GF under him or are they reaching to where they deserve to get to. How many Dees fans who want Bailey gone would change their minds if we made the 8 this year and maybe even won a final? Daniher made finals one year and missed the next and most were happy with him as Coach for quite a while. I would hate to be an AFL Coach as there is a sense of failure at just about everything short of a GF appearance. Most of us were happy with Bailey last year but it has swung against him badly this year. Wonder if the mood would change if we string a few wins together. PS. I think we are being poorly coached and developed at the moment.

Agree.

Incorrect.

That was a year and a half ago. Light bulb should be getting warm after 18 months. PS. Carlton, Collingwood, St.Kilda, Hawthorn all flicked the switch.

Good post. I agree with most of that. Just a few comments. Jamar while great around the ground is actually not getting his hitouts to our players, unlike last year. The ball either goes to a contest or the other side. That is hurting us at stoppages, look what Cox did last night. Chip had his worst game for the club. Green and Davey are non existent and Davey looks embarrasingly scared on the ground. Aussie, Gysberts, Morton and a few others also had absolute shockers. When we got the ball there was no one forward to kick it to and for that the Coaching panel must take the blame. What also worries me is that our skills appear to have regressed badly. When we have the ball and even without pressure we kick it out of bounds or to the opposition and create their goals. Last night 8.7 or 55 points of the Eagles first 64 points came from our turnovers. I have never seen such a stat before, let alone 3 inside 50's to their 22 for the 1st quarter. Our tackling or lack of it and the ineffectiveness of attempts was sub standard, though you would argue young bodies, but we also have senior bodies and their youngsters were tackling us effectively. Our game plan is just plain pathetic and with all of the other problems this kills everything. A hard big body is so badly needed up forward that I am looking at Juice as the temporary solution. I think our supporters are now clearly getting the message, we are not that good. Pity is that other teams who seemed the same are getting better quickly and going past us without much change in playing personnel.

Bruce is currently the Hawks worst player and will end up playing the year out at Box Hill. His saved salary will help us keep players like Scully. Move on, Bruce is not the reason we lost nor is losing a 35 year old Junior.

I am going to cop it here but I think that Jamar is not hitting the ball to our players. He tends to just drop it down and it is either a contest or an opposition ball. He is playing well around the ground but I feel his ruckwork is not a patch on last year.

Got me with him, though to the other poster, Shaun Grigg was traded for Collins. Perhaps i should have added the word "star" before players. I don't think they will let any star player they want to keep go to another club.

Carlton don't lose players they want to retain.

Maybe my grade/mark will improve after standardisation.

No, I don't believe that the Coach or Administration wanted to win but clearly the players did as players always do. I am just sick of "tanking" talk when every Coach and Administration has done the same in the past to get the best draft picks. The Pies won a flag with their early picks like Thomas and Pendlebury and no one seems to bring up their "tanking" at every opportunity. I think most Pies fans are happy with the result as are Blues fans with Murphy, Kreuzer, Gibbs etc. Also the Tigers game gets brought up all the time, yet we were [censored] all year and we were leading at the final siren,what more could be expected. People and especially the media need to get over it or lobby the AFL to change the system. I am just fed up with all the talk about it. Lastly thanks for the compliment of me being reasonably intelligent, though some people have suggested I am even more than reasonably intelligent and in fact just plain intelligent, but I accept your grading of me based solely on Demonland posting.

Them!

Still get annoyed by this as we were ahead when the final siren went. How many teams tank and are leading when the final siren sounds. If Jordan McMahon had not been paid that mark, which I thought he took after the siren and then kicked the goal from 50 metres, we would have won the game. I think it is time to stop talking about tanking. Also the AFL say that no team has ever tanked and they are never wrong.

Ssshhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think you might find there will be no red in the jumpers of the team he might coach. Just blue.

Agree.

You obviously wouldn't like to call Magpies "pies" if you followed them like most of their fans do.

I would be extremely disappointed if Watts was dropped for this game. This is the perfect game to play him against some younger players up forward and to get some confidence. This not the game to drop him from the senior side if that is even what the match committee are considering. Everyone tells me we should be in development mode this year and to not play him against the Suns goes completely against that. I am sure he will play.

It was a combination of the type of injury and my usual pessimism when looking at good demons struck down with injury. Players like Jakovich, Jurrah, Aussie, Davey, Lyon, Sylvia, McLean, Morton, Schwartz, Tingay, Wight, G. Lovett, O'Dwyer, Charles, Bamblett, Prymke, Dean,etc all missed large amounts of games due to injury. Even new boy Tapscott missed most of last year.

Not happy about it but when I heard of the injury I posted that he could be out for at least half the season. Unfortunately it appears I may be correct.

IS.

It might if you were the one cleaning it up, or watching him doing the urinating inside a venue.

Good post and ends with the conclusion we need a power forward, the same thing I started a thread on last year, using Brown of the Pies as an example.

We appear incapable of 2.