Damo

At the time Winmar had said that he was representing his guts to get up and get a win, as told to me by someone at the time who knew Joffa Cunningham. Then the story grew legs(not intestinal fortitude) as a show of black skin and Nicky much preferred this version. I believe this version of events. Great player all the same.

I am coming around to this opinion too. Which makes me consider the club using a low draft pick plus player to get an out of contract, mature, Key Position Forward at the end of this year. I believe we need someone for next year to be another focus, just as Robbo has given the youngsters the confidence to kick to the forward line. Jack Watts is too far away. We need interim measures. I dont consider 27 to be too old for our needs, and I dismiss avoiding big forwards that are a "bad influence". Most big forwards that are any good are considered by some "bad influences". We should believe in our strength of character after this year to remedy obvious temptations. While I understand the logic of dismissing the idea on the basis that the KPF may not be part of our next premiership, I think it is time to start putting together winning culture. This year looks to be a pretty good cattle market and our time is at hand.

Great to see a Melbourne Player playing full Forward for our affiliate team. Stuff Sandy with their focus on their own player Nick Sautner. This is what I want with the new partnership. Go Scorps!

lets get a sience going. We can call up the dead and get curses lifted. We just need Whoopi Goldberg.

Whelan puts his body on the line. He has the chops to be given lee-way. Paul has more talent than most on our list and has spun his career out for a long time. But how would he have fared under say, Malthouse? I remember not only how much woey was paid but how much he paid with his body. Chewed up quick. Paid well but. Would Wheaters have made it if his balls were to the wall? We at MFC will never know. I would have preferred Whelan in 31.

Thanks for the memory. I still get a kick out of Bub's "Ohhhhh... Honestly"!

Maybe it has been brought up elsewhere... But what about the move by Richmond to get Graeme Polak onto the 'special case/Ramanaskas" list as the long term injured list was "a bit unfair" and there view seemed to be that they were helping out a basket case that may be viewed as community service. He played and showed a bit apparently in a intra-club match just two months after they felt unjustly treated! Devious pricks they are,with that certainly smell of K.Sheedys work.

Good kid good stock.etc... But the last time someone stuck by their word on behalf of the MFC we got the Cockatoo-Collins twins. A promise to a sick mother that was plainly a joke in the eyes of many pundits. Why the football club should suffer someone elses prideful promise may not bite us this time. But history not only repeats, it should be respected. Donald and David were much worse selections than Luke Molan and IIRC about as high.

I think Ben did his level best and it shows how difficult it is to change such a long and sustained period of bad habits when you have divested yourself of decent friends.

The players all have to buy a sherrin of their own and put their name on it. They are then responsible for bringing it to training. He probably took his own footy with him. I would.

I have watched Charlie Gardiner play a fair bit last year and I believe he is twice the talent of say, Shane Birss (really crap kick at full speed) and would get a game at MFC pretty easily next year. But the facts are that we dont need to "top up" with hardly any senior players. A tall forward would be good... We need to draft youngsters in this high quality draft and thats what St Kilda is doing. They are looking long term although they had a pretty successful year in 2008. We should be getting blokes off the bus not putting them on.

Paul Williams seemed a good bloke and it is hard to pull up your socks when you dont have any. But Im not upset he has gone. I wonder how Dean Bailey rated him? The Bulldogs have a lot more running centremen in the mold of his own type of play. He may do well there. We need quality fast insiders, but with the group we have, we do need a Todd Viney type of assistant coach. Funny this didnt happen last year.

I hope we are talking to Rory Sloane as well. I dont think he will be that high and he has been playing on the backline so there may be stronger interest(so Im told) from the roos and Port Adelaide. Would love to see him come to the Dees though.

I believe you have to be at the game to see how bad we play. I have watched parts of the replay and it does not look as bad on TV as when you are at the ground. The players dont even look into the forward for an option even if one is obvious. They wont kick quickly without a long think to see if it will be worth getting slammed by the coach for making a mistake. Morton waiting for 3 seconds to square it to Cam Bruce 30 out on his own is a typical example. Took too long and a floaty kick and it just kills the instincts of natural football players. The members ran out of pies today and there was hardly any staff in the Blazer bar at half time. There was a lot of depressed demon fans in the line-up hungry and thirsty who showed up today to look for a silver lining.

In the past few years when discussions of "who would you want to play at Melbourne" are bandied about, the players thrown up have mainly been tall Forwards. Judd being the exception... I have seen posters say they have wanted the Pav, Rievolt, Brown.... and Judd. Someone pointed out that good large forwards are always taken early and that elite mid-fielders are often being traded. Judd, Stevens, Thompson, Johnson... This year sees J.Brown possibly going but if this happens, it is uncommon for a good KPF to come on the market. There isnt many real good ones going around. If Rich and Watts are both elite, it then falls to the question of greatest need. I believe the gap at Full Forward is larger than the gap in the middle. The middle has promises being made this weekend. Because you must strike when you have your opportunity, I want Watts.

Theres lies, damned lies and we cant even look at the statistics...

Happy to agree with DD. I would quite happily pick Watts with Draft pick one and then try to swap 17 and 19 (if thats what we have) for a pick 7/8/9/10 if we can do that deal, to get another quality midfielder who can deliver the ball. I would think there may be takers from Freo or Saints. If we miss on Warnock in pre-season Im happy to stick with Jamar and PJ who are showing some potential. Our forward line and midfield are abysmal. Our ruck are merely agricultural.

Flower and Alan Johnson

You keyboard slap happy jerks just clog up forums with your continual half-full wanks about how good our players are. You then shout down others because you expect to be backed up by other one-eyed adolescent tools. How surprising. How is Morton or Garland deemed to be a star? How is McLean? How is Rivers or Moloney? why dont you try to answer daveytrains question about our impending "superstars"? good luck thick head

I am aslo worried about the picks we have had in the last few years. Col Garland, Cale Morton, McLean OK. Cant see a star though. Moloney, Rivers Petterd, Sylvia all have problems or are valued highly from little result. Others are average at best. People talk up our recruits but I think most of them are going to be duds or are already on the long term injury lists.

Those that showed up are again the most disappointed.

I see a certain dash about shielding your mate in if you have already been lumbered. I dont understand why the penalties are now overly harsh, except for the fact that the hierarchy have made fools of themselves by lack of research and have over-reacted. Didak should have shot through or hid under the roses. He was more than averagely stupid to hang around the scene. I wouldnt be surprised if everyone collectively gets over their egos and reduces the bans to two or three weeks.

ICON must mean the tendency to deceive and manipulate others for personal gain.

Rich. It is a Sophies choice and I will accept whoever we get but we need a midfielder more than any other team. We have one truly decent mid in McLean. Although I have always been in the camp of pick the good big man over the good smaller player, Rich is the safest bet. We also need a quality forward, but we have a couple that are mediocre and have some hope. Even if we dont get Warnock, I am luke warming to Jamar and to a lesser extent PJ. If it was this time next year, I believe I would be cursing missing out on Rich more than I would be anxiously waiting for the ripening of NikNat or Watts.

I worked with the wife of a Richmond board member during Cameron's time at their club. They were both pretty good friends and I saw them socially often. They are down to earth get stuck in and help types, with very little BS about them at all. So believe me when I say Cameron Schwab had little or no respect from either the board or the staff. If he came up with the Save our Skins campaign I wouldnt be surprised but he is an ideas man at best. He is not hands on and is very much a Machiavellian string puller. He is mates with CC and JS and if he was bought in, I hope it is not as a CEO. He is not a team player and in my mind is similar to a young Greg Miller. He is shifty. Be careful. Im sure he is currently rehearsing his long time love of Melbourne speech that he used when going to the Tigers. This is Welchy's first post. It is full of sh!t and makes me wonder who actually posted it.