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Turners Mid Season AA Side FB Wilkie Moore (vc) Docherty HB NDaicos Sicily Sinclair C Dawson Oliver Serong HF Petracca JCameron Rozee FF CCameron CCurnow Greene R English Bontempelli (c) Butters INT Neale Merrett Taranto Liberatore

i mean every national draftee gets a minimum 2yr deal naturally so it's not extortionate to allow 2 18yo's the same just coz they were drafted a day later particularly given their player types and youth pathways respectively. alos the club has to have 4-6 rookies and we aren't going to draft 4 every single year are we so may as well tie a few up each year and give them a chance to develop properly otherwise whats the point at all.

Not going to argue specifics but i think you're heavily overestimating on a few here, imo fritsch wouldn't be on any more than 5-550 salem 550-6 fairly certain BBB is on more like 400 because we gave him extra length on his roos deal, at the most its 500 i don't think we'd be going over this season and if as you say contracted players were to leave i don't think we'd pay a cent for them to move. Realistically we're discussing harmes and tommo here. they want opportunity and career longevity, that is why they'll potentially move. oppo club comes to them and says we see you're on 500 for next season and don't have a deal in place for 2025 right now. Here's a 3yr deal till 2026. you get 400 every season, so yes were taking 100 off you next year but you're getting it back and some plus you have a place to play and an extra 2 years you didn't otherwise have and were no certainty to get at the dees. that is legitimately how contracts in trading works, it's how it worked when we lured BBB across as he was well paid by norf on his expiring deal but they only wanted to give him 1-2 years longer and how geelong could afford bowes, and how will brodie fitted in at freo. but the giving club doesn't pay any of the $ but the player gets it in career length rather than a 1 year longer and out of the system type set up

Oscar Allen for mine, followed by Larkey, lewis still a way behind them both in the "best young key forward" debate

I actually really like the suggestion... its fair and makes sense and its not garanteeing players go one way or the other but also for players like hugh greenwood or liam jones who may not ever play 100 games at one club but could play 100 games of league footy their kids being eligible for tasmania seems like a fair negotiation

Has been named to play for the Vic Metro side in the Young guns game against U20s who have missed out on recent drafts, good chance to once again face some slightly bigger bodies and put his name in front of a crowd full of recruiters. Did we hear back about how he went?

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disagree completely, we've got mids coming out of our noses atm with laurie, jordon, woey, howes coming through and a top 5 pick plus ky brown this year (thanks freo), going after mature age forwards such as georgiades or even if we could prize King or Allen away from their respective clubs itll be well worth it

yeh whoops definitely meant harmes not dunstan

OUT: McDonald, Spargo, Sparrow, Tomlinson IN: Lever, Brown, Schache, Dunstan

btw luci formatting error on rivers with the cup and also theres a cup next to joel smiths name who didn't win a flag, also not sure what ur flag policy is with hunter who won one at the dogs :)

ziebell is still impacting, dusty is basically playing out of the goalsquare and is still a threat. i dont think theres any expectation internally or externally on any of the others you named to do more than play their role and offer leadership after extremely consistent careers, every year theres a retiring class dont think any of the guys you've listed are hanging on overly long tbf

mcvee hasn't been officially confirmed or announced by the club, only reported as close to a deal or likely to sign a deal according to afl media reporters

Viney Oliver Grundy Petracca Rivers TMac

Going to make a second posts with some other fun reference points directly related to this weeks round 3 fixture, TMac moves past Barassi to 205 games played Viney moves clear of the Ox to 174 games Petracca will have officially played more games than Jack Watts as a dee Clarry's 150th moves him = with Whelan, Sean Wight and Jared Rivers Brayshaw and Harmes are on track to share their 150th together and move = with Ivor Warne-Smith, Nathan Brown and Leoncelli this week (games 146) ANB goes past Gerard Healy the dee to 131 Melksham is sneaking ever closer to 100 dees games and F/S eligibility (currently 96) Spargo draws level with Trenners Rivers moves past Ricky Petterd who he has currently got a mirrored record of (39-1-14) v (14-1-39), Sparrow is currently one game behind him. Petty plays game 51 the same Vanders finished on, and still 1 shy of Dogga Tomlinson moves even with Bugg, Scully and Wonaeamirri if named and finally Bowey matches the games of Jimmy Toumpas some contrasting careers in there hey!

i spend a large portion of time staring at afl tables and noting interesting and completely useless things, for example the fact Brayshaw and viney are already games record holders in their respective numbers really surprised me given the low magnitude of theirs and how close petracca, , but we have fielded a fairly consistent side, i was also surprised by how little number of 200 gamers we've had and how many of our current crop are going to sit so high on the total games tally by the end of their demon days also milestone for tmac he goes =top in #25 this week and outright the following week

im so lost

interesting re JJ, on the fringes, already has a flag and we havent got any clear upcoming vacancies in the guts, woulda thought he'd be a low priority for us and would be happy to look elsewhere for opportunity and security

given freo have recruited chapman, young and traded clark in the last 3 years id say we're safe from a freo raid and wce are so far behind that rivers would be unlikely to make that move for at least 2-3 years now but for sure theres a risk there long term, especially as he's already won the flag, and could be well paid esp by wce long term. but we clearly like him and trust him hence his increased role in the early stages of this season and exposure up the field on ball

it's interesting to note that at present we have no 'B' rookie spots free and both our b rooks would be eligible to be retained as b rookies for the 24 season so early prognosis is theyd be unlikely but obviously plenty to still play out and so much could change

Oliver Lever Brown Brayshaw Fritsch Sparrow

OUT: Pickett, Laurie, McVee, Tomlinson IN: Viney, Fritsch, Salem, May McVee gets the vest or melksham retains it. it's stiff on Tommo and McVee but theres levels to this game and they'll get more chances over the course of the season

i'm still not convinced on laurie, the eye test, he is yet to pass it. will go straight out this week to make room for our 4 ins, and i wouldn't even give him the vest. given a game purely to see if it sparks something playing on this stage compared ot vfl as it does for some players but in 3 years has rarely knocked on the door. also needed to give a few debuts so we had some sub options throughout the season of which laurie may now feature heavily but long term ANB and spargo are so far in front and it concerns me a little given where he was drafted

was fairly disappointed in chandlers pre season, minimal scoreboard impact and jusr doesnt have the same buzz around the ball as he should, feel that spot is definitely up for grabs however laurie did nothing to press for it either, really missing bedford early especially with pickett up around the ball now. and spargo and nibbler are very secure in their place in the side as well given the lack of pressure from below. hopefully chandler makes way for fritta sooner rather than later. also BBBs showing was poor i thought

JVR, Howes, Laurie, Woey, Sestan is my prediction