Turner

i've have always been in the petty down back camp and that doesn't change even after his 6 as i think his reading of the ball and his aggression is still best suited to defence and he's our long term may replacement however for the rest of the season i'd leave him forward as we just cannot rely on any of the alternative options to give any sort of effort or output at the required level. the only reason i'd change that would be to go melky and fritta and jvr and play a smaller setup that's worked for us in the past at times. long term i just don't think he has the agility and flair to be a real threat forward in all facets of the craft

play him this week v north to give gawn a good run in for finals and then ship him port or swans @ eos

i see a situation where as you say DSmith, DTurner and even KTurner move off rookie list either out or up and we delist and rerookie melky and hibbo that way ti free up the senior spots without actually losing the players who play important and slightly unique roles for us in the squad

sensible for a tall taken with an early pick but i think we need to be careful with these automatic extensions we're handing out. As a good side we have less undesirable players which means the squeeze is on and list management may have written hibbo/melky off at the end of this season and now it looks like they may both play on. yes Howes, Laurie and DTurner have been ok in vfl but why did we lock them into 2yr deals similar with Chandler and Spargo for 3, i'd be making those 1 and 2 year extensions respectively coz now we're stuck with another year of Laurie who just doesn't look likely and is unfortunately clogging us up a bit in terms of list flexibility

I 100% agree, Reid will have the instant impact and will be able to play 50:50 forward mid with Trac or 70:30 depending on the game, but those two tassie boys excite me heaps for their inside outside mix and speed and kicking skills and i'd prefer what they've shown so far compared to a Duursma/Caddy/Curtain type

i thought this was going t be an ode to a future HOF and the greatest forward i've seen in my lifetime as he winds up his career not this ahahah

Almost a rare Werridee dub. Probably Deak Smith and AMW depart too and im not convinced we'll keep Kye Turner on and if DSmith does go it wouldnt be surprised to see Hibbo/Melky dropped to the rookie list

could be adelaide bound now with murray joining doedee in the acl club late on

u know the ruck merry-go-round. well now we have the Key defender merry-go-round and the inside mid go round Barrass, Sav, Clurey, Tomlinson, Doedee, BMckay, Himmelberg, DGB all floated as available or on the move in some capacity Crouch, DevRobertson, Mathieson, Dow, Macrae, Shiel, Parfitt, EHollands, Harmes, JJ all move for opportunity and then fill the spot of someone else to be depth elsewhere, tommo will leave but someone will come in to replace him in the squad unless they back in Smith, Adams and KTurner

Smith can do it plus gawn still drops in holes which wont change

i heard he was asking for 4yrs, you'd assume thats 4yrs at 300k which is average and then bonuses and clauses related to games played and bnf taking him further from there which is perfectly reasonable for him, think similar to marlion pickett/kamdyn mcintosh at richmond but hes getting security on career. other clubs probably offer him 400 + bonuses, id be reluctant as him to assume im going into anyones best 22 with any sort of permanency. the interested clubs essendon: zerrett, parish, hobbs, perkins, setterfield, tsatas so he's ahead of shiel MAYBE setterfield with another top 10 pick this season and in future years gcs: Rowell, anderson, touk and then top picks davies, hollands, flanders + swallow and then academy players and top picks to come hes outside the starting square there too and swans: gulden, rowbum, parker, mills, chad so he's at least 6th there too without pinch hitters or pick 4 this year. if i'm him id trust the process where i am and maybe look around again in another 2-3 years if its still 12-15 games a season or less

accolades have nothing to do with it tho, its purely financial and the dons have the coin and the roos will let him walk, if the roos were top 4 and the pick was 15 people would be far less, not entirely but far less up in arms its just the way the system works at the moments and thats the fact of it

baz or reid, for mine. Reid

only 2 sides have one flags from outside top 4 in whatever the exact number of years is but its like 25 or something. essentially finishing 5-8 IS your wildcard entry to finals

it's two if they make finals 3 if they miss

Finn Macrae of collingwood or elijah hollands would be younger alternatives too. Beast mode mathieson as an older body too who's great for culture around the club. Or a reid type ;)

sounds like a draft we should be bailing on, imo. we're tight as for spots even compared to next year with age profile and importance of the ooc players. and we should be looking to move our early picks to then. aside from Reid, Walter, Mckercher, Sanders i'm not very impressed by first round. Watson has been decent but Caddy and Duursma are flashy and i worry about consistency and how it transfers to afl level. also the entire Vic Metro midfield was bottom agers this season so next year looks the way to go

I agree, said similarly to dad the other day, he just doesn't seem to be a super contested type yes he was near contests but he isn't winning first hands at all hes just moving through i was actually more impressed by his run and kicking and thought small back would be more suitable I disagree that their list is anywhere near where it should be and would even go as far as saying they will get worse next year. Just because WCE have been so awful everyone assumes NM are more than a year into their rebuild. Ziebell, Hall, Greenwood, Cunnington, Goldstein, Shiels, Turner, Howe have combined for far more games than they should've imo, they need a hawthorn esque transition or they'll be nowhere. I also think Simpkin is extremely overrated so we'll see how they progress I'd be steering well clear of Curtain, yes he could be Bont/Cripps or he could be Lukosius but for me a player who doesnt have a settled position ends up with no position. Ask Jarrod Brander or Nik Cox who are toillers because are they building their frames to play in a key post or are they staying lean to be a mid but in the end they do half of both and don't progress and get moved on

IN: JVR, Spargo (sub), Oliver (please) OUT: Smith, Chandler, Fritsch Melky stays in for game 100 as a dee as does Brown in better conditions and Harmes as theres no value to flipping he and Jordon every single week. Grundy would be an out for me too but they just won't do it Ideally it would be this IN; JVR, Spargo, Oliver, Jordon (sub) OUT: Smith, Chandler, Fritsch, Grundy

He just didn't look likely today at all. Obviously the conditions were not suited, it's unfortunate fritsch succumbed to the foot when he did as i rkn Brown or grundy was prime to be subbed off otherwise. but BBB just cannot get himself off the ground to outreach opponents nor can he get enough seperation on the lead to actually use his workrate and take uncontensted marks as he used to do in his prime at NM. it's an awkward one where he offers more if he can get the football than Grundy the forward but probably in tandem with JVR but also they won't just drop grundy no matter how uninfluential he is. and BBB is obviously far more threatening than Schache at AFL level too.

can't remember if i saw it on here or twitter but someone said something about WCE offering up next years future 1st for a top 5 pick this year, it'll still be pick one but will help them get reid and curtin. Next year will have will ashcroft -tied, tyler welsh -tied and the other two young metro mids who are currently starring you'd imagine will go highly compared to teh country/WA combo they could be looking at this year, in terms of long term retention it could be the smarter business play to take the risk.

'18 😅

dare i ask what year layzie, i too

Probably one of Naughton or Darcy settles down back, given the merry-go-round that is Keath, Gardner, TOB, Bruce leaves plenty of room for Jamarra, Lobb, +1 down forward, lobb and jones are also 30+ already too one of their academy players Reid, is a ruckman plus they're massive on Moyle played twice earlier this year 100kgs at 21 he's only going to get stronger and craftier over the next 2 years and will be ready to take the mantle

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