John Demonic

What i haven't seen mentioned in this thread is the improvement and additions in coaching of other clubs in the period since 16-18. We can add Fagan, Ratten & Hinkley to the list of coaches that have been excelling latelythat weren't in 16-18. Hardwick, Scott at the top of the tree currently. Simpson, Buckley & Beveridge have stagnated, but reached a far higher level than Goodwin. Then you've got a few clubs outside the 8 that seem to be on the right track with coaching and managerial appointments. We await this year's results, but it really could be something as a simple as the field moving ahead of a coach that was excelling 2-4 years ago. ?‍♂️

Did someone say Big Pharma??

If he finds a passionfruit stout, then you can lock in a draw

Modra to kick 10

Just to nitpick, but I'd rather we play Sydney at the SCG than the MCG . They really get up for their away games against us. Bad memories. Of recent years they've been as bad at the SCG, as we've been on the MCG.

?Man

I stopped watching the Dees from 2007-2013, because I had better things to do.

Fritsch says gday

He joins the Adam Oxley school of players that destroyed us and then have been delisted a year or two later. ?‍♂️

What are people's thoughts on trading out our 2021 1st round? Given that seemed to be most people's no-go zone. I have no opinion other than: We just await potential further pick swaps, new players form over 1-3 years and our collective form to judge it in its entirety.

For all the mockery of this trade idea, and I for one don't think he fits our group in the slightest with his purported character traits: I still do find it interesting that I read somewhere he's the number 1 ranked small forward in the comp. Unless I'm mistaken.

So bring back Frost and Preuss then with 26 and 31 instead of BB? I hope we just do whatever the damn trade is whether it's 1 or 2 2nd round picks with a pick coming back our way, and we have a kpf next year. Amost any trade result is better than having Frost and Preuss/Tyson on our list instead.

Narkle is more your Petrucelle or Motlop-in-midfield inconsistent burst from congestion player and ANB is a link in chain bigger version of Spargo, a foot soldier. Not sure the comparisons are valid, or if you can say you've seen Narkles best yet. If we had space for Bennells skill, natural instinct and potential, then why do we not have it for a player like Narkle, if he came cheap?

A stab in the dark

Yeah, Money doesn't grow on Treeloars

So many people were pleased that we didn't get Isaac Smith and saved ourselves some money, but are now exasperated that we aren't declaring a new wing target? Guess what, you can't click your fingers and a winger just appears out of the blue. Who knows where Phillips or Polecs intentions lay and how much it would cost you in picks/money. That 3rd year of Smith's contract offer doesn't look so bad now does it, given how close we were rumoured to getting him.

Identical twings

Even if Brown wanted a little more re EFC offer @cooko, I say take the risk and postpone any list re-signing complications for another year and see how we go with an actual KPF. They'll be taking unders to keep the squad together if we're winning finals next year and members are signing up. If we miss out on BB, finish where we are now again or worse, then even a mega deal allowed by smart cap allocation will be turned down by Oliver for success elsewhere.

We could've gotten Smith and Phillips, or a player of his calibre somewhere else on the field. It wasn't either/or.

We were strung along all trade period by Jamie Elliot last year.

I'm not around the financials, but it does suck to now have to use that pick in the 40s. Not sure Smith's contract offer would be that big a hole for people on here to be glad of having to now trade that pick.

Maybe Jake Melksham has been transitioning into a list management role post career these past few years by hand picking players that will never take his spot?

Imagine if we only end up with Josh Jenkins and a couple of picks in the 40s this year for Preuss and the McDonalds.

I thought that was Robert Walls?

On the Couch talked of Richmond having 6 genuine runners in their team with Baker, Houli & Short overwhelming the Cats, who had a need for more speed from defense, but still had Clark languishing in the half time sprint and winning it. Let's not stop at Brown, Isaac Smith?, but target Phillips, another runner AND a small forward (Higgins/Lonie?) at bargain basement prices? Can we not do a StKilda w/ 4 or 5 pickups this year or are the cap pressures too high?