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King’s Culture and the Truth about Dees Rise Few Saw Coming

adonski
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  • adonski changed the title to King’s Culture and the Truth about Dees Rise Few Saw Coming
 

‘Goodwin advocated for the same player moves a year earlier’

That’s quite a counter factual parallel universe where Goodwin’s attempts at a new game plan are far more successful in 2025…

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    very interesting comment in the article that goody had pushed for trading Clarry and Trac after 2024. i didn't know that. Makes you wonder why it didn't happen

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    14 minutes ago, BDA said:

    very interesting comment in the article that goody had pushed for trading Clarry and Trac after 2024. i didn't know that. Makes you wonder why it didn't happen

    PR and optics that the club was imploding. Panic and paralysis set in.

    The more interesting question is who recommended against and prevented the trades:

    1. Interim CEO

    2. Interim President

    3. Alan Richardson

    I know who I'd put my money on!

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    You could kind of see he was trying changes.

    Bringing in sharp, windor, Lindsey all for speed.

    I think he actively tried for change but couldn’t get them to shake old habits.

    I think it’s significantly easier when everything from ceo down is changed and new.

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    That Goodwin was advocating for the Trac and Clarry moves at least as early as 2024 paints a very different picture from the stuck in a rut story 'some people' have been trotting out for a long time.

    You don't talk about moving your highest profile players on unless you are seriously aware of limitations to the game plan and the need to transform. As GawnoftheDead noted above, we went all-out drafting speedy, skillful attacking players as far back as 2023.

    The picture we can now confidently form is of Goodwin pressing to reform the game style and list but being held back by club politics and the perceived need to retain 'marquee' players.

    Is it any wonder Goodwin was getting strained and taut and bringing a mood of stress to the club. Hands tied behind his back and then finally sacked for the consequences of it.

    And, hmm, what has happened to all those constant leaks?

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    1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    PR and optics that the club was imploding. Panic and paralysis set in.

    The more interesting question is who recommended against and prevented the trades:

    1. Interim CEO

    2. Interim President

    3. Alan Richardson

    I know who I'd put my money on!

    1. The board.

      That's who I'd put my money on.

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    32 minutes ago, rpfc said:

    ‘Goodwin advocated for the same player moves a year earlier’

    That’s quite a counter factual parallel universe where Goodwin’s attempts at a new game plan are far more successful in 2025…

    I'm not suggesting Goody behind the Swans change to their game plan to but it's interesting their hyper attacking style and long forward handball (#1 for metres gained by hand) coincides with goody joining them as director of coaching and performance.

    5 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

    1. The board.

      That's who I'd put my money on.

    That's where the buck stops. Always

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    33 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

    1. The board.

      That's who I'd put my money on.

    Brad Green in particular

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    It’s possible Green tied himself to his own call of the starting midfield. I understand his desire to keep them together as the club was generally imploding at the time.

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    Goodwin trying to move Trac and Clarry on in 2024 and not being allowed to by the club administration is a great example of how there’s 1000 variables behind the curtain that we on the outside have no visibility of.

    It’s why my approach to decisions I don’t understand from the club is to question but not criticise - because in 99% of cases there will be inputs into it that I can’t see.

    Who knows what would have happened if we hadn’t had those players at the club in 2025. If what’s happening this year is any indication, things could have gone VERY differently.

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    15 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

    a classic case of drinking your own bath water

    I'm not sure we did that, but it's an apt response. King was never a genius. Possibly a good coach. We will have to see. Press conference after the loss today was pretty awful. Could barely put a plausible sentence together. He's yet to learn the cliches.

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    7 hours ago, binman said:

    I'm not suggesting Goody behind the Swans change to their game plan to but it's interesting their hyper attacking style and long forward handball (#1 for metres gained by hand) coincides with goody joining them as director of coaching and performance.

    That's where the buck stops. Always

    Why did he keep on selecting the same players week in week out ,what about Adam Tommlison and playing Macca in those finals and Brodie Grundy ,and putting in Bailey Laurie ,we would have had another flag and it would have been at the G .SPARE ME YOUR HISTORY

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