5 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

In my opinion Bucks has the brand and charisma to attract sponsors. He speaks well in the public eye and has great connections in the cooperate world considering he is always a guest speaker whever he goes.

I follow him on Instagram and there is no doubt he he has pulling power with the way he conducts himself professionally.

Where we sit currently with memberships and sponsorship, if there was one guy that could really be the face for this footy club and build our brand back up again, it would be Bucks.

You've just spelled out why the AFL want him for Tassie - and are doing all they can to make sure he gets there.

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Definitely warming to James Kelly. Not that I didnt like or rate him, just thought he didnt fit the bill of being a fairly experienced assistant coach.

I mean, anyone thats been in such a successful organisation as Geelong cant be too bad..

Lol, what's funny is that Kelly doesn't meet the 8+ years of experience the CEO and panel have said they allegedly want.

He was an assistant at Essendon for the 2018-2020 seasons and at Geelong for the 2022-2025 seasons.

Yeah I'm a bit wary of picking someone because they interviewed well. I think we should of been already 95% sure on who we'd pick before interviews. It's not like we have no idea who they are and what they have done unlike the common workplace interviews.

10 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Lol, what's funny is that Kelly doesn't meet the 8+ years of experience the CEO and panel have said they allegedly want.

He was an assistant at Essendon for the 2018-2020 seasons and at Geelong for the 2022-2025 seasons.

2018 to the end of 2025 is 8 years. While not coaching in 2021 I think it still counts as the year would have involved reflecting on his 2018 - 2020 stint and also preparing and applying for his 2022 job.

1 hour ago, Ted Lasso said:

The entire cats culture has been built around respecting opposition, being yourself and being selfless on and off the field. I think a Kelly/bartel double has the potential to transform the club. It would be a risk, especially if Buckley is keen. But if we make that call I won’t be unhappy

My Pies tragic friend says absolutelty steer clear of Buckley.

I love your left field (maybe) thinking being a big fan of Bartel's thinking. Its the whole package . Kelly/Bartel plus others? Whats wrong with that. Guerra has already cleverly signalled he doesn't know what he doesn't know publicly, and what better way to strengthen the footy IQ than bring in Jimmy as well.

Buckley reeks of the old messiah fix - e.g Ronald dale in 1981, Carl before that. etc.

Amazing test for new president and team IMO.

BTW - I HATE the cats but can live with this.

49 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Caracella is Richmond's midfield coach. Their forwards coach is Chris Newman, who had a long career playing as (checks notes) a defender.

There's an oft quoted argument that defenders make good forward coaches as they played seeing ahead of the ball down the ground and know what it takes to stop a forward line.

Hence via reverse engineering, they know how to build a forward system.

Just saying.

There's just been a hell of a lot of colouring in of James Kelly's attributes in this thread without any basis except a report that he impressed the selection committee and he's been at Geelong so must be good.

21 minutes ago, kurtneverdied said:

Yeah I'm a bit wary of picking someone because they interviewed well. I think we should have been already 95% sure on who we'd pick before interviews. It's not like we have no idea who they are and what they have done unlike the common workplace interviews.

They did research across the comp and initial chats to form a short list for the formal interviews so they were down to 6 before then. Take out Skipworth that’s 5 that they thought were all worthy candidates.

There’s no shortage of things they can do in interviews to test candidates. Aside from them laying out their vision and their level of preparation (training sessions, review methods, coaching structure) you can do things like mock press conferences and player meetings.

28 minutes ago, demon36 said:

Hence via reverse engineering, they know how to build a forward system.

Just saying.

I've also been saying the same thing. Though good line coaches are good line coaches, regardless of where they played.

I'm wary of the so called Cat's culture.

It relies on the local media turning a blind eye to what happens down that way. And, let's not forget the mates their CEO Steve Hocking still has at AFL House.

Their success is in part due to favourable fixtures at kitty park that almost guarantee making finals. Once there to their credit they know how to win and Scott is an outstanding coach to make the most of the opportunity.

All that will not easily translate to good results at the dees or anywhere else. It might but wouldn't rely on it when choosing our coach.

36 minutes ago, chookrat said:

2018 to the end of 2025 is 8 years. While not coaching in 2021 I think it still counts as the year would have involved reflecting on his 2018 - 2020 stint and also preparing and applying for his 2022 job.

He didn't coach in 2021, this is his 7th season of coaching. That's not 8+ seasons.

46 minutes ago, kurtneverdied said:

Yeah I'm a bit wary of picking someone because they interviewed well. I think we should of been already 95% sure on who we'd pick before interviews. It's not like we have no idea who they are and what they have done unlike the common workplace interviews.

The club is reminding me of the two guys in the movie Office Space who get wowed by that one guy who doesn't want to work there

12 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

He didn't coach in 2021, this is his 7th season of coaching. That's not 8+ seasons.

He quit in Feb 2021, to spend more time with his kids. We can round that up!

57 minutes ago, old55 said:

There's just been a hell of a lot of colouring in of James Kelly's attributes in this thread without any basis except a report that he impressed the selection committee and he's been at Geelong so must be good.

With crayons

None of us really have any idea about who would make the best coach. It’s just that I and a few others know it isn’t Buckley. 😂

48 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

He didn't coach in 2021, this is his 7th season of coaching. That's not 8+ seasons.

I don't know how to talk to you

16 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

None of us really have any idea about who would make the best coach. It’s just that I and a few others know it isn’t Buckley. 😂

None of us really have any idea about who would make the best coach. It’s just that I and a few others think its probably Buckley. 😂

19 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

None of us really have any idea about who would make the best coach. It’s just that I and a few others know it isn’t Buckley. 😂

Do you work for the AFL by any chance?

3 hours ago, Roost it far said:

I fear they don’t.

I knew you’d join us on eventually 😜

Buckley is still my first preference.

If he decides not to go ahead then happy for Kelly if they deem him the best fit.

other than the media adoring him and that he stopped our dog running away from mrs ww one freezing cold night at toorak park, i really don't see the appeal of buckley

he has no experience, really, outside the filth and media

his only previous other afl club experience was back in 1993 in his first year as a player at the bears under robert walls

other than that he's been coached by:

• matthews (two years)

• shaw (four years)

• malthouse (rest of his career until end 2007)

he then worked in the media for a year, and then was at the filth as an assistant for two years and senior for nine and a half, before getting sacked

media for four seasons since

that's a lot of 'comfort zone' with a plethora of individual accolades and no ultimate team success

Josh Gaeblich tonight mentioned that Brendon Lade was another that had a strong interview with us and apparently the panel were very impressed.

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Josh Gaeblich tonight mentioned that Brendon Lade was another that had a strong interview with us and apparently the panel were very impressed.

Why does literally everything gets leaked. I know it's not a biggie, but it's something that probably shouldn't be talked about outside the panel until it's over.

Just now, kurtneverdied said:

Why does literally everything gets leaked. I know it's not a biggie, but it's something that probably shouldn't be talked about outside the panel until it's over.

It’s almost certainly the coaches and managers leaking this rather than the panel.

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Josh Gaeblich tonight mentioned that Brendon Lade was another that had a strong interview with us and apparently the panel were very impressed.

Wasn't Lade at St Kilda during Alan Richardson's last year there (2019)? He's listed as Senior Assistant.

2 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

It’s almost certainly the coaches and managers leaking this rather than the panel.

Meh, panel where probably just being nice. They are not going to say they were [censored] to their face.