First few comments are very much self vested

Pretty much from the day Buckley absconded to the Ferals from Brisbane I very much got on and stayed on the ‘I love to hate Buckley’ bandwagon for so many reasons. It was a long and good ride. So just on that level it would trouble me if he ended up our coach.

The only person I would even more dislike having as our coach is Hird. I actually despise him for what he did at Essendon. Unforgivable, particularly more so because he is still in denial that he did no wrong.

Ironically I think he would be a far better coach than Buckley.

I would be most happy if we got fresh blood in as our new coach. As mentioned by others, first time new coaches seem to do better than recycled coaches.

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

Pickett can sleep soundly, because every incoming coach would die to coach him and would be so spectacularly happy to have him part of the long term future. I know he was very close to Goody, but he shouldn't worry that a new coach will love him any less. He also still has Matty Whelan there.

If Buckley is our next coach, I hope he learnt a whole lot of what not to do working in an organisation where systemic racism was a big issue. Again, thank god for Matty Whelan doing such a marvellous job!

Just another shout out to Wheels. Always the last off the track - picking up cones and balls and helping the staff. Rusted on!

Ok bucks. That was some nice deflection. Looking forward to your opening address at the BNF.

52 minutes ago, Craig T said:

Well done on pointing this out. To this you can add they were lucky to be so close in the GF, WC had five more scoring shots in a relatively low scoring game. Had the Eagles taken their chances in the last quarter the game would have been well and truly over long before any Dom Sheed heroics were necessary. The "Buckley was a kick away from a premiership" argument is really ignoring just how lucky he was to be so close.

So if you're lucky to win it, like say McRae or Beveridge was, it counts, but if you're unlucky to just miss out, like say Buckley or Lyon it doesn't?

We operate in an industry where every year 17 clubs lose.

It took us 57 years to win a grand final, 21 years earlier we got smacked in one.

Winning premierships is the most difficult matrix to judge coaches on, because it happens so rarely to just about every club even those with the luxury of AFL support in terms of fixture, home ground advantage and draft / academy picks.

The problem for us over the last two years is that we haven't been in the race. You need to be making finals and finishing top 4 to give yourself a chance, we haven't done that.

A new coach is not guaranteed to win us a flag, just as Goodwin was not guaranteed to win us another one. It's about getting a new voice that can maximise our chances of being in a position to compete. To get back into finals with a game plan that stacks up against the better sides, while getting the most out of our current list.

I can make a million cases where rookie coaches failed, and failed miserably. Including at Melbourne. Just as you can make a case that second time round coaches have also failed.

The success rate of coaches is literally 1 in 18 per year if we only judge them on flags won.

13 minutes ago, Pipefitter said:

Ok bucks. That was some nice deflection. Looking forward to your opening address at the BNF.

haha yep. His manager would have told him to look less interested in the media as he'll have no negoitation power

That [censored] Tom Morris reporting there will be a decision by prelim weekend. Not enough time for a 'proper process'

And talking as if Buckley is a shoe-in

I saw a clip of Paul Roos saying our list is no where near as bad as it seems

He compared us to the Pies before McRae took over and he said if he was Buckley he'd be taking over to win a flag in the next 2-3 years, not start over again

Sorry no link

6 minutes ago, DubDee said:

That [censored] Tom Morris reporting there will be a decision by prelim weekend. Not enough time for a 'proper process'

And talking as if Buckley is a shoe-in

The prelim is on the 20th Sep.

Id think a lot could be done before then

9 minutes ago, DubDee said:

I saw a clip of Paul Roos saying our list is no where near as bad as it seems

He compared us to the Pies before McRae took over and he said if he was Buckley he'd be taking over to win a flag in the next 2-3 years, not start over again

Sorry no link

Where was this? Radio? TV? Podcast? What station? I will see if I can track it down.

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

Where was this? Radio? TV? Podcast? What station? I will see if I can track it down.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BH8dyYMB8/

14 minutes ago, DubDee said:

I saw a clip of Paul Roos saying our list is no where near as bad as it seems

He compared us to the Pies before McRae took over and he said if he was Buckley he'd be taking over to win a flag in the next 2-3 years, not start over again

Sorry no link

Does anyone think our list is bad? (Genuine question)

I think it's significantly better than what almost all new coaches inherit

3 minutes ago, ucanchoose said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BH8dyYMB8/

Hes not wrong.

We're an Adelaide off season recruiting from at least finishing top 6 next year.

This off season will be more crucial then ever in terms of getting the player movement correct.

1 hour ago, Dee*ceiving said:

Lethal Leigh? 1990 @ Pies then Lions 3-peat?

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Only a few AFL head coaches have won premierships with multiple clubs, which is a rare and impressive achievement. Based on historical records, here are the confirmed examples:

🏆 Coaches Who Have Won Premierships at Two Different AFL Clubs

1. Ron Barassi

   • Melbourne: 1960 (as player-coach)

   • Carlton: 1968, 1970

   • North Melbourne: 1975, 1977

2. David Parkin

   • Hawthorn: 1978

   • Carlton: 1981, 1982, 1995

3. Allan Jeans

   • St Kilda: 1966

   • Hawthorn: 1983, 1986, 1989

4. Tom Hafey

   • Richmond: 1967, 1969, 1973, 1974

   • Collingwood: Took them to multiple Grand Finals but did not win a premiership there

5. Mick Malthouse

   • West Coast: 1992, 1994

   • Collingwood: 2010

6. Leigh Matthews

   • Collingwood: 1990

   • Brisbane Lions: 2001, 2002, 2003

7. Malcolm Blight

   • Adelaide: 1997, 1998

   • (No premierships with other clubs as head coach)

8. Denis Pagan

   • North Melbourne: 1996, 1999

   • (No premierships with Carlton)

From this list, the coaches who actually won premierships with two different clubs are:

• Ron Barassi

• David Parkin

• Allan Jeans

• Mick Malthouse

• Leigh Matthews

I think the relevant point is not if they won first time around, just succeeded round two.

Allan Jeans is a legend from his second turn.

Malcom Blight had more success second tenure.

Barassi took North from dead last to a premiership in two years.

There are a few examples.
I've come around on Bucks, originally preferred Enright or another assistant but what's needed most is leadership and authority.
Bucks has a window with players like Trac and Gawn to deliver. If not, then we're rebuilding and those assistants will mostly still be available.

Just now, adonski said:

Does anyone think our list is bad? (Genuine question)

I think it's significantly better than what almost all new coaches inherit

Reckon Bucks wouldn’t be interested if we had a bad list

Especially when yesterday was one of the first games where our promising young talent really led the way with less impact from our senior players (sans Gawn and McDonald)

Think we just need to continue to rebalance our list towards our younger core and see if we can top up with some players in that 24-26 range, while also bringing in a new coach to further transition the gameplan, improve selection integrity and potentially make some tough calls on a few senior players

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Hes not wrong.

We're an Adelaide off season recruiting from at least finishing top 6 next year.

This off season will be more crucial then ever in terms of getting the player movement correct.

The ‘premiership players’ he speaks of aren’t those players anymore though. A shell of, actually

9 minutes ago, ucanchoose said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BH8dyYMB8/

Thanks mate, that's the one

3 minutes ago, adonski said:

Does anyone think our list is bad? (Genuine question)

I think it's significantly better than what almost all new coaches inherit

No it isn't that bad.

imv our list lacks depth (several years of poor trading in of players) and we have messed around the development of our youth. Hence some senior players have played when they shouldn't have.

With a fresh mind to define a revised game plan and evaluate the list attributes against that game plan a new coach will start making changes to the list and more importantly to game day selections. It may not all happen this year but with two off seasons we should see real change.

We can easily bounce back to finals next year and go deeper in 2027..

Our list lacks a Naughton

14 minutes ago, ucanchoose said:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BH8dyYMB8/

Well Roos is no dummy as we know. Bucks has to respect he process and rightly is not giving a blow by blow but did slip up a bit and almost say he is in the process.

He probably wants the option of saying in the end he wasn't interested in the event we are genuinely running a process or we cant come up with his non negotiables (whatever they are).

For example he will want to know as part of the process who is likely to be there and who is on the trade block.

39 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Reckon Bucks wouldn’t be interested if we had a bad list

Especially when yesterday was one of the first games where our promising young talent really led the way with less impact from our senior players (sans Gawn and McDonald)

Think we just need to continue to rebalance our list towards our younger core and see if we can top up with some players in that 24-26 range, while also bringing in a new coach to further transition the gameplan, improve selection integrity and potentially make some tough calls on a few senior players

I think you’re vastly overestimating his options. His media roles are mostly mind numbing for anyone with ambitions to coach or fill an executive role.

Bucks is desperate for the job, if he wasn’t then we wouldn’t waste our time.

I'm glad simpson has said no. But then he said no one has asked him from Melbourne. Well we haven't put the panel together yet.

He's probably waiting for the nth job to become available. Also I think he's enjoying his media gig

Hope they hurry up. Spending all day reading this thread.

7 minutes ago, No10 said:

I think you’re vastly overestimating his options. His media roles are mostly mind numbing for anyone with ambitions to coach or fill an executive role.

Bucks is desperate for the job, if he wasn’t then we wouldn’t waste our time.

I mean I guess that’s true but if he didn’t rate us he’d have Tassie and potentially Carlton as options in the next 12 months

Would be very easy to say he’s not interested and hold fire until then

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