22 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

The fact that they were kicking accurately this morning tells us that it’s kicking for goal in-game that’s the problem. And that’s a psychological problem, not physical.

They need to simulate the pressure that accompanies kicking for goal in a match (when it matters). Maybe $100 to the player for each shot that goes through (from a spot specified by the coach) and $50 from the player, paid into the xmas party fund, if they miss. 🤣

How about they just get the technique right? That would be a start.

1 hour ago, hardtack said:

They need to simulate the pressure that accompanies kicking for goal in a match (when it matters). Maybe $100 to the player for each shot that goes through (from a spot specified by the coach) and $50 from the player, paid into the xmas party fund, if they miss. 🤣

Would count for salary cap purposes. [Insert pseudo-humorous comment here].

On 22/06/2025 at 12:21, jaydenh10 said:

i have been critical of him in the past but he has earn his opportunity now, give max a rest for one game and get him and tc in. both could not just play on their own they would need each other

On 22/06/2025 at 12:21, jaydenh10 said:

i have been critical of him in the past but he has earn his opportunity now, give max a rest for one game and get him and tc in. both could not just play on their own they would need each other

We just had a bye, why does Max need another rest?

We still want to win games of footy & I’m sure Max wants another All Australian 😉

35 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

You are sounding a lot like Simon there. If we win contested footy, generate more inside 50’s than them, on percentages we should win, so don’t sweat too much on the small stuff, like goal kicking, forwards leading at the ball carrier etc.

I may well be, but that's the situation we're in.

We prioritised certain skill sets as now we're having to make the most of what we have. I would even argue that consistent forward pressure is rated a higher trait than being able to hit 5 set shots in a row.

We can't turn a Jeep into a Ferrari at this point. As far as accuracy goes we just have to hope that it's as good as it can be.

10 minutes ago, layzie said:

I may well be, but that's the situation we're in.

We prioritised certain skill sets as now we're having to make the most of what we have. I would even argue that consistent forward pressure is rated a higher trait than being able to hit 5 set shots in a row.

We can't turn a Jeep into a Ferrari at this point. As far as accuracy goes we just have to hope that it's as good as it can be.

If we were a basketball team we'd spend 1/4 of the game at the free throw line ( doing so half as much again as many opponents ) only to miss 9 out of 10 throws.

In other words we're the horse that will not drink.

Quantity over quality just isn't winning us games.

As to accuracy... the converse to your thinking. I fervently hope we're currently the worst we can be and there's a lot of improvement to come.

I hope.... but I know it's not happening.

2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

Calm down ffs! They’re not hugging at all. Keith the physio is banging shoulders with Charles to test his scapula. You’re gonna give yourself a hernia if you keep this up.

or herpes

2 hours ago, hardtack said:

They need to simulate the pressure that accompanies kicking for goal in a match (when it matters). Maybe $100 to the player for each shot that goes through (from a spot specified by the coach) and $50 from the player, paid into the xmas party fund, if they miss. 🤣

hos the health hardy

2 hours ago, hardtack said:

They need to simulate the pressure that accompanies kicking for goal in a match (when it matters). Maybe $100 to the player for each shot that goes through (from a spot specified by the coach) and $50 from the player, paid into the xmas party fund, if they miss. 🤣

i prefer sticks to carrots . Well placed electrodes are the go.

10 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

If we were a basketball team we'd spend 1/4 of the game at the free throw line ( doing so half as much again as many opponents ) only to miss 9 out of 10 throws.

In other words we're the horse that will not drink.

Quantity over quality just isn't winning us games.

As to accuracy... the converse to your thinking. I fervently hope we're currently the worst we can be and there's a lot of improvement to come.

I hope.... but I know it's not happening.

lets see ,you can get mil$ to play afl footy but you cant do the basics like kick the ball,good grief

4 minutes ago, ghost who walks said:

lets see ,you can get mil$ to play afl footy but you cant do the basics like kick the ball,good grief

Apparently

7 hours ago, buck_nekkid said:

ON GOAL KICKING… it is also harder to deliver a skill after repeat sprint efforts. That is what i would add to training- 3 100m sprints then a shot on goal. This would better replicate game situation, lactic acid accumulation, breathing changes etc than just a few kicks at training.

l have thought about this too.

Great idea !

45 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

If we were a basketball team we'd spend 1/4 of the game at the free throw line ( doing so half as much again as many opponents ) only to miss 9 out of 10 throws.

In other words we're the horse that will not drink.

Quantity over quality just isn't winning us games.

As to accuracy... the converse to your thinking. I fervently hope we're currently the worst we can be and there's a lot of improvement to come.

I hope.... but I know it's not happening.

I'd hate if it were 9 out of 10 free throws. I'd be hoping it's more like 4 out of 10 jump shots and 2 out of 10 three pointers!

It probably is on the worse end and there are definitely players who we know can shoot for goal better ie Fritta, Petty but I just can't see the accuracy ever being at sniper agent levels I'm afraid.

1 minute ago, layzie said:

I'd hate if it were 9 out of 10 free throws. I'd be hoping it's more like 4 out of 10 jump shots and 2 out of 10 three pointers!

It probably is on the worse end and there are definitely players who we know can shoot for goal better ie Fritta, Petty but I just can't see the accuracy ever being at sniper agent levels I'm afraid.

The probable reality is that in any given game there are maybe half a dozen kicks that currently miss ( for us ) which ought to be gettable. Why ? Just my observations.. sometimes as simple as choice of kick. Now I'm not having a go at him as he's not alone, but there's been times recently where in the past Kozzi has elected for a drop punt with a straight run up. He's enjoyed good success with that. Why he chooses "around the corner " 45deg out around 30/40 m ?? FIIK !! 🤷‍♂️

But he has mates now selecting a low % shot where they ought to be kicking straight. Fad, fashion ,lairising.. who knows.

Then there's poor technical kicking.

Both things can be changed/corrected. One by direction, the other by coaching.

As to the yips.. well that's between the ears stuff but can also be bettered with practice. Kicking needs to be automatic and not thought through.

Do, not think.

1 hour ago, ghost who walks said:

hos the health hardy

Well, I’m still above ground and posting here… so I guess that’s a plus!

10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I think the best way to overcome that psychological issue is repeated practice so they build confidence and ingrain their technique.

EXACTLY!

4 hours ago, ghost who walks said:

glad hes moved on had worried there for a while if you reading this sir stay away from little rack

Rack, did you say RACK, HNMM I CHOMP THROUGH RACKS OF LAMB OFTEN!🤪

10 hours ago, Demonised said:

Agreed, repeated practice is the key but it has to be repeated practice with good/restructured technique otherwise you just get good at being bad.

"Practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect." - RDB

7 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

How do we know that they’re not practicing as much as they should be? We see a brief captain’s run and a brief flush run each week. There’s a main training session two days before gameday at Casey (or Gosch’s if the upcoming match is interstate). We know they train in other ways: pool, gym, indoor skills training, etc. They only get one day off per week. How do we know they’re not practicing goal kicking somewhere?

Hopefully it's not at the pool! 🤣

GW : how do you know the team gets 1 day off a week?

arent they entitled to a 2 day break like other workers?

Just wondering .

10 minutes ago, Dingo said:

GW : how do you know the team gets 1 day off a week?

arent they entitled to a 2 day break like other workers?

Just wondering .

A few of them have told me they get one day off per week, eg. Clarrie, Shane, Luker.

The missed shots (and dud forward entries) wouldn't look as bad if we went back to stopping the ball from immediately rocketing down the other end at warp speed. Having the worst conversion in the league is a bad thing, but keeping the ball at our end and the opposition under pressure would be nice too.