8 hours ago, sue said:

Sorry to seem sexist, but if they are giving cars to female players, the male players are probably getting jumbo jets.

Probably but they need a farm with a runway to land them on as well

51 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

Probably but they need a farm with a runway to land them on as well

Hence my suggestion of Falcons ..

(Dassault that is 😉 )

Jumbos a bit big.... bit impersonal lol

Edited Tuesday at 10:265 days by beelzebub

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

It is a cover up.

My husband is related to a Geelong player who shall remain anonymous, who earns well below league average (and is a top 20 player in the league!), but somehow owns a piece of property worth around $15mil.

Likewise I know people at Cotton On Group, and the ambassador salary they pay Smith is more than any of their big name ambassadors who have actual modeling careers.

Regardless of whether or not this is true, it was not what is reported which was my point. I simply don't see why some are celebrating this as an exposure of Geelong wrongdoing.

26 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Regardless of whether or not this is true, it was not what is reported which was my point. I simply don't see why some are celebrating this as an exposure of Geelong wrongdoing.

The point is that what is being reported is a total cover up by the AFL to protect their beloved Geelong. Either that or Geelong are incredibly good at hiding these non kosher deals.

11 hours ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

PERFORMATIVE SLAP ON THE WRIST INCOMING...

WATCH OUT, FIVE FIGURES!! 😱

Five figure fine $100.01?

Just the facts

Former Cats Finance guy & the current @AFL staffer Simon Kelleher investigates himself & Steve Hocking for cheating the salary cap & although findings and agreement the cats are guilty, the club won’t lose points, draft picks etc. Only cop a slap through a fine.

Deadset clown show! 🤡 play on Cats , advantage

the lack of press on this cheating is astonishing.

This is protected corrupt behaviour. Know a Geelong coterie member who is also a drunk and they are so up their own you know what’s that they think it is justified.

Wasn’t there a lawyer on here having a go at me about this last year?

Vaguely recall something.

afl.com not reporting this suprise suprise

17 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

It is a cover up.

My husband is related to a Geelong player who shall remain anonymous, who earns well below league average (and is a top 20 player in the league!), but somehow owns a piece of property worth around $15mil.

Likewise I know people at Cotton On Group, and the ambassador salary they pay Smith is more than any of their big name ambassadors who have actual modeling careers.

I find this a little hard to believe. As much as we all have a laugh around how the Cats are pulling the wool over the AFL, if any of what you said was remotely true, the other AFL clubs would be all over it and calling for an independent audit / enquiry into the matter.

17 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

I find this a little hard to believe. As much as we all have a laugh around how the Cats are pulling the wool over the AFL, if any of what you said was remotely true, the other AFL clubs would be all over it and calling for an independent audit / enquiry into the matter.

Except lots of other clubs do similar things, so it is not in their interest to expose the Cats.

This is not a situation that is unique to Geelong, but they do have more of a leg up because of who some of their major funders/sponsors are.

11 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Except lots of other clubs do similar things, so it is not in their interest to expose the Cats.

This is not a situation that is unique to Geelong, but they do have more of a leg up because of who some of their major funders/sponsors are.

that does make sense. id go as far as saying that if Geelong got exposed, they'd probably bring the whole league down with em.

23 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

I find this a little hard to believe. As much as we all have a laugh around how the Cats are pulling the wool over the AFL, if any of what you said was remotely true, the other AFL clubs would be all over it and calling for an independent audit / enquiry into the matter.

I’m sorry but implying someone is not telling the truth really triggers me, especially when it’s someone like Jaded who isn’t given to making stuff up.

Edited Wednesday at 03:004 days by Ghostwriter

3 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

I’m sorry but implying someone is not telling the truth really triggers me, especially when it’s someone like Jaded who isn’t given to making stuff up.

You clearly misunderstood. i have no doubt what Jaded has said is true from her perspective. My perspective comes more from a place of disbelief / shock.

2 hours ago, Bay Riffin said:

the lack of press on this cheating is astonishing.

Because there was nothing noteworthy reported. Caro basically said there were a handful of administrative errors that numerous other clubs have been done for in recent times. Did you actually watch the report?

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

Except lots of other clubs do similar things, so it is not in their interest to expose the Cats.

This is not a situation that is unique to Geelong, but they do have more of a leg up because of who some of their major funders/sponsors are.

I expect one of the reasons the AFL don't rock the boat with things like this is because the salary cap system wouldn't hold up in court if a club were to ever decide to challenge it at that level.

Jeeelong are a one team town, they have been doing “deals” since Frank Costa took over.

There’s a lot of land to subdivide down there

1 hour ago, GS_1905 said:

You clearly misunderstood. i have no doubt what Jaded has said is true from her perspective. My perspective comes more from a place of disbelief / shock.

Were you shocked when Judd got the Visy ambassador deal to join Carlton?

Do you know how many shares Pavlich owns in WA mining companies, and why he never left to go back to SA?

These things are common place in AFL. Geelong just does it better than most, because they have more resources to leverage which are easy to 'hide', especially in terms of property.

You would be shocked if you knew how little Tom Hawkins got paid over his footballing journey, but he and Emma's property is worth millions. Now go prove that property was bought by the club but is now somehow owned by Tom and Emma...

1 hour ago, GS_1905 said:

You clearly misunderstood. i have no doubt what Jaded has said is true from her perspective. My perspective comes more from a place of disbelief / shock.

“If any of what you said was remotely true…”

I didn’t misunderstand at all. I simply referenced your words, verbatim.

Also, please understand that I bristle when I see someone being questioned about the validity of what they’ve shared. Once bitten, etc.

Edited Wednesday at 04:394 days by Ghostwriter

8 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

“If any of what you said was remotely true…”

I didn’t misunderstand at all. I simply referenced your words, verbatim.

Also, please understand that I bristle when I see someone being questioned about the validity of what they’ve shared. Once bitten, etc.

It is rather unbelievable because everyone wants to believe the AFL is a fair and equal competition, despite being shown on a daily basis that is, in fact, not at all.

9 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Were you shocked when Judd got the Visy ambassador deal to join Carlton?

Do you know how many shares Pavlich owns in WA mining companies, and why he never left to go back to SA?

These things are common place in AFL. Geelong just does it better than most, because they have more resources to leverage which are easy to 'hide', especially in terms of property.

You would be shocked if you knew how little Tom Hawkins got paid over his footballing journey, but he and Emma's property is worth millions. Now go prove that property was bought by the club but is now somehow owned by Tom and Emma...

what has been eye-opening about jake niall's series of reports in ninefax about the moneyed movers and shakers at clubs is just how small we are in comparison with others

harder to hide third party payments when you don't have folks swimming with cash hanging around as linament sniffers

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

It is rather unbelievable because everyone wants to believe the AFL is a fair and equal competition, despite being shown on a daily basis that is, in fact, not at all.

It so sure that many people believe that at all.

I don’t . Collingwood Geelong Carlton fans pretend it is true.

24 minutes ago, monoccular said:

It so sure that many people believe that at all.

I don’t . Collingwood Geelong Carlton fans pretend it is true.

I don't even think the Geelong supporters pretend anymore and just get on with it knowing that their club is doing better at the shady deals in comparison to others.

I've neve been sold on the rumours about the 'dollar farms' concept. It would be pretty easy to trace the flow of funds by completing some searches that show COS signed amounts etc.

One thing I have seen from there players (actively on socials over the years) was the constant change/upgrade of vehicles. I always wondered if one or two were gifted to the players annually and they just sell the old ones.

Additionally, adding a player or two in a syndicate for a land development would be pretty easy which looks to have been completed over the journey for a lucky few and previous premiership coach.

The challenge that all Vic clubs have with the cats however is that they do market themselves well to players around a lifestyle point of view. Its something that we just can't compete with.

One of my best mates brothers played there for 10 years over the 07-11 successes and they basically had the entire playing group at there house mid week for a BBQ, couple beers and backyard cricket with everyone living within 20 mins of each other at the time. Other than a very few (Chapmans apparently a horrid human and Bartel a diva) they were all incredibly close.

They also stay connected with every country Vic lad who comes through the Pioneers, Bushrangers or Falcons programs just waiting for an opportunity to bring them back to the country lifestyle.

I can't stand the club and love seeing them get done (equally with the filth, blues & bombers) but have to admit, its purely from jealousy.

They continually seem to push the boundaries, they do it well and get away it. So kudos to them and I hope we're just as ruthless towards winning.

1 hour ago, Deeko2 said:

Additionally, adding a player or two in a syndicate for a land development would be pretty easy which looks to have been completed over the journey for a lucky few and previous premiership coach.

The challenge that all Vic clubs have with the cats however is that they do market themselves well to players around a lifestyle point of view. Its something that we just can't compete with.

I don't buy that we can't compete with the Geelong lifestyle. We simply need to play to our strengths. Some players like city life, while others could easily set up on the Mornington Peninsula (e.g., I believe Jake Lever has done this, as has Max Gawn?)

Competing doesn't mean "doing the same thing". Obviously we can't compete with the farm life by offering farms. But there are things we and other clubs can do/offer that Geelong can't. Ditto for every club.

Though I will admit that if I were a footy player and didn't have a hatred for Geelong I'd probably want to set myself up at Torquay with a hobby farm and a new truck too.