1 hour ago, GS_1905 said:

YIKES using the BNF this year as your evidence isn’t inspiring confidence. Let’s see if he can get double digits in the Brownlow tonight.

Well he got to 16 votes which aint bad considering how average he was this year compared to his usual standards.

You said he's on the decline. Just wondering what you're basing that on. If its due to concerns that he won't get back to his best post horrific injury last year then I totally get it. If its due to him now being in his 30's then sure I can understand that. Even if he bounced back a slow decline is always inevitable.

I just feel this year he was playing at 85% both physically/fitness wise and mentally because of what happened last year. Its pretty common that even just the rib injuries usually take 12 months to really get back to proper aerobic fitness (we saw this with Langden a few seasons ago). I think that was a big reason he played much more time forward this year (without much success unfortunately).

I've made the point a few times but I thought last year Trac was well on his way to a brownlow (or at least top 3 finish). I think he COULD have two or three more seasons playing at a very high standard and impact the team as someone like Lachie Neale has done through his early 30's. Of course he has his flaws with kicking being the obvious one where he went backwards from the better disposal he showed improvement on last year. Again how much of that is confidence in body and mind I don't know but he works on it a ton.

I don't think we're a good enough team to really, truly compete without him in the next few seasons. I hope he stays.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Young Blood

7 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Because we’ll only have a few more years of him and during that time we won’t be close to finals, if finishing 14th this year tells us anything. Time to cash out.

You sir are a clown

1 minute ago, WERRIDEE said:

You sir are a clown

Now now, no need to get nasty.

Wasn’t that long ago Clarry polled 31

Far out, things have changed

16 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

Honestly, I’m ready to give “Brand Trac” (or whatever malarkey he wants to ascribe to himself) the flick.

Lately he’s just exuded “bigger than the club” vibes, and they’ve always been my least favourite kind of footballer. If I’m wrong, point to the examples where I’m wrong

If players like this are the keys to success, I’ve no interest in the game. Some crew just want to chase flags. I’m not that crew. I like the club vibe.

I’m also drunk and sad in a very strange country.

And that brings its own perspective.

You must be drunk. Flags are all that matter.

2 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Because we’ll only have a few more years of him and during that time we won’t be close to finals, if finishing 14th this year tells us anything. Time to cash out.

Cashing out only works if you are paid, even if you are correct and we need to rebuild what they are offering is unlikely to help, we need high end picks inside 5 not end of first round where it becomes speculative. If Dangerfield is any comparison trac still had 5-6 good years left, would you be advising blues to trade out Cripps for the same deal as they are essentially in the same boat as us.

14 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

0 votes to a midfielder taking up a crazy amount of our salary cap.

Of course he has upside, as many on here argue, largely because there isn’t possibly any more downside.

Are you talking about Oliver wouldn't surprise me. Trac got 16 GUN

I think the point being made is that you dont trade a player that scores 16 votes in a down year for a few picks in one of the worst drafts in a while.

I cant really see much upside in trading Tracc unless there was an absolute offer too good to refuse.

And count how many Melbourne FC Norm Smith Medalists you can remember.

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Posters saying Trac best years behind, Dangerfield premiership @ 32 & possibly 35!

13 hours ago, Kent said:

it seems t me he is the cultural problem at the dees

Hasn't put in 4 quarters for a long time.extremely poor body language points and blames other players, poor disposal

Must be a nightmare to play with

If you think Petracca is a cultural problem what's your thoughts on Oliver?

C Oliver 0 votes this year after missing just one game.

And some on here think he'll get back to his 2021-2022 form lols.

I know who I'd be trading out first and it ain't Petracca.

Demonland: "The Brownlow is a farce. The umps don't know what they're doing. That player didn't deserve votes in that game compared to this player."

Also Demonland: "Player X didn't score any Brownlow votes. Can't be any good. Trade him!".

15 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

If you think Petracca is a cultural problem what's your thoughts on Oliver?

Oliver IS the culture problem. No coincidence we went down the ladder when the Oliver\Smith saga happened. He's a player I'd love to get rid of I'd be paying half his salary to play for another team. Don't get me wrong he was a great player but he's a shadow of his former self. Smith ruined him got into the wrong crowd.

8 hours ago, chookrat said:

Take out the papers and the trash

Or you don't get no spendin' cash

If you don't scrub that kitchen floor

You ain't gonna rock and roll no more

Yakety yak (don't talk back)

Just finish cleanin' up your room

Let's see that dust fly with that broom

Get all that garbage out of sight

Or you don't go out Friday night

Yakety yak (don't talk back)

You just put on your coat and hat

And walk yourself to the laundromat

And when you finish doin' that

Bring in the dog and put out the cat

Yakety yak (don't talk back)

Don't you give me no dirty looks

Your father's hip, he knows what cooks

Just tell your hoodlum friend outside

You ain't got time to take a ride

Yakety yak (don't talk back)

Yakety yak, yakety yak

Yakety yak, yakety yak

Yakety yak, yakety yak

Yakety yak, yakety yak

Are you Snoopdog?

We have 2 A grade players, possibly 3 if we include the inconsistent Pickett. And people want to unload one of them? It defies reason.

8 hours ago, Mouseymoo said:

Pick 23 isn't going to make them foot a million + deal. We keep 23 and pay some of the Brand's deal.

Please don’t call him the Brand. That was coined by the media and Tracc hates it. Regardless of what you think of Tracc, he deserves the respect of Demons fans to stop perpetuating that horrid term.

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17 hours ago, Mel Bourne said:

Honestly, I’m ready to give “Brand Trac” (or whatever malarkey he wants to ascribe to himself) the flick.

Lately he’s just exuded “bigger than the club” vibes, and they’ve always been my least favourite kind of footballer. If I’m wrong, point to the examples where I’m wrong

If players like this are the keys to success, I’ve no interest in the game. Some crew just want to chase flags. I’m not that crew. I like the club vibe.

I’m also drunk and sad in a very strange country.

And that brings its own perspective.

I’ll say this every single time I read this type of comment… Tracc HATES the term ‘Brand Petracca.’ This term came from the media (iirc Damien Barrett) and at no point was it encouraged or embraced by Tracc or Bella or his family, ever. In fact, the term Brand Petracca makes Tracc sick. And angry. But what makes him angrier is when the term is attributed to him or someone in his camp.

40 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

C Oliver 0 votes this year after missing just one game.

And some on here think he'll get back to his 2021-2022 form lols.

I know who I'd be trading out first and it ain't Petracca.

Mate, you flip flop on everything.

We'll see you next week when you're screaming from the hills that we should trade Trac and blow Clarry.

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

Oliver IS the culture problem. No coincidence we went down the ladder when the Oliver\Smith saga happened. He's a player I'd love to get rid of I'd be paying half his salary to play for another team. Don't get me wrong he was a great player but he's a shadow of his former self. Smith ruined him got into the wrong crowd.

Well in case you haven’t noticed Smith is no longer with MFC any more.

Secondly it is agreed by most scribes and experts that Clarry was getting back to nearer his best in the last 6/7 weeks.

It b makes no sense football wise IMO with a new coach to ask or arrange for either Trac or Clarry to leave when it is a perfect opportunity for both to return to their best under Kingy.

Stephen May is different as he is older and there may be problems with some younger members of the backline that don’t warm to his style of encouragement/ coaching on march days. We can’t lose McVee Bowey Hores or Derksen unless Maysie is reformed or not frightening them if they make mistakes. Lever can handle that side with Tom or Petty if need be.

I love Maysie so maybe try him up forward if he is not taken by any other Club and if Rooy does not improve his marking put him back to get confidence.

1 minute ago, 58er said:

Well in case you haven’t noticed Smith is no longer with MFC any more.

Secondly it is agreed by most scribes and experts that Clarry was getting back to nearer his best in the last 6/7 weeks.

It b makes no sense football wise IMO with a new coach to ask or arrange for either Trac or Clarry to leave when it is a perfect opportunity for both to return to their best under Kingy.

Stephen May is different as he is older and there may be problems with some younger members of the backline that don’t warm to his style of encouragement/ coaching on march days. We can’t lose McVee Bowey Hores or Derksen unless Maysie is reformed or not frightening them if they make mistakes. Lever can handle that side with Tom or Petty if need be.

I love Maysie so maybe try him up forward if he is not taken by any other Club and if Rooy does not improve his marking put him back to get confidence.

Howes not Hores.

8 hours ago, GS_1905 said:

Because Trac is 30 and on the decline. If GCS was to give us 6 and Flanders I’d take it and run.

Start running but you won’t see any MFC rep with that deal from GCSuns. They don’t need mids Adelaide Carlton Tigers do though.

But Flanders would be a good get no doubt if we could swing it.