4 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

$1.3m - $700k = $600k.

According to Fox Footy he's on 1.5M. I think the contract is back ended.

25 minutes ago, watchtheeyes said:

So King effectively told him that he’s not playing to the level, that he has to earn his place in the team and instead of taking it as a challenge to get better, he cracked the sads and went straight to the media to throw us under the bus.

Got it.

Shocking attitude, he can go.

This went through my mind as well. Bit of an OTP reaction if true

4 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

The AFL media doesn’t operate in an isolated sphere, devoid of all media conventions, practices and methodologies. In fact, I wouldn’t even say it’s overly unique in terms of the media cycle.

My point still stands and I’ve said it numerous times. If people want to be fantasists and drive the notion that all reporting relating to the MFC is filled with falsehoods, mistruths and fictional narratives, that’s on them. It isn’t reality and the end of the day, the media do not just ‘make up stories’. That’s not to say that everything happens as expected via reports, but that is the end game when you’re dealing with real-time information.

I also think a massive issue is that a significant number of people who consume media in general, are not able to deduce the difference between an opinion and a fact. Media literacy in Australia is appalling, but you see it multiple times on here when a journalist/AFL media personality delivers an opinion and people treat this a statement of fact. They are not the same thing at all.

I don't think all reporting about the MFC is made up.

I just take issue with the idea that AFL journalists have any integrity whatsoever.

I think these leaks speak volumes for Guerra's (in)ability to run a tight ship. Compare this with PJ and it's not even a competition.

Just now, Bring-Back-Powell said:

What day is Morris or Cleary sending out the “Bayley Fritsch told to explore his options” tweet?

I didn’t get the coaching job so I think he’s safe!

9 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

The next Mark Neeld you reckon?

The last time Demonland was all on the same pages was when we needed a strong man.

Let's hope not.

We have no idea whether he can coach yet.

Short memories on here.

If this is true and we're trading Trac, Clarry, May and McVee, it's completely at odds with the messaging from both Guerra and King about finals next year or the year after.

I'm giving the club the benefit of the doubt. Hierra and Lamb have both said don't pay any attention to the media, watch our socials. So like @Jaded No More , I'm expecting confirmation one way or other today regarding our true intentions with Clarry.

Don't really see the comparison. Neeld came to a young team filled with outside runners and flankers and tried to turn them into Collingwood lite. It was a square peg in a round hole.

King is in rebuild mode and being given the chance to get clean air.

Just now, Bring-Back-Powell said:

What day is Morris or Cleary sending out the “Bayley Fritsch told to explore his options” tweet?

High chance he is reading this right now with popcorn and enjoying the real power he has watching this thread spiral to 200 pages and may reply in person shortly.

Just now, lorn said:

According to Fox Footy he's on 1.5M. I think the contract is back ended.

Hmm seen some conflicting reports about that.

Hopefully this is the last year of friends asking "what's going on at Melbourne?"

Clarry's year by averages:

Disposals: 25.5 (above afl average)

Kicks: 10.8 (above afl average)

Handballs: 14.7 (elite according to afl metric)

marks: 2.9 (below afl average)

tackles: 5.4 (well above afl average)

clearance: 5.5 (well above afl average)

I know that these stats in a vacuum are not entirely indicative but assertions that clayton isnt giving us any output or doesnt have value are just ridiculous.

You can have as many smooth movers transitioning the ball fast on the outside, but you still need one or two guys to go and win a hard ball in and under. Winning the ball at contest is still what gives you the edge in big games and finals.

Letting clayton go would take the cake in diabolically bad MFC list decisions.

Hoping this is just media beat up.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Tom Dyson

Probably one of the worst videos I've ever seen

9 minutes ago, poita said:

If the club have decided that they need to move on without Oliver and Petracca, I don't like it but I accept it on the condition that we also punt those responsible for the absurd contracts which have left us with this mess. Number one in the gun is Tim Lamb - he is borderline incompetent in every aspect of his job.

Agree. What we are witnessing right now is a clear indication of just how inept and dysfunctional our club has been for the past few years.

It's embarrassing and everyone involved from previous coach, board, entitled players and anyone who turned a blind eye to the unfolding mess should be ashamed.

2021 doesn't seem that long ago but the failures of our club since then are extraordinary.

Bring out the broom and start again.

8 minutes ago, DubDee said:

was just talking to the boss, he said tomorrow is fine for that report

Considering I am the boss, that doesn't sound right.

I am a real a-hole!

3 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Probably one of the worst videos I've ever seen

Please get that offensive head away for us.

HAVEN'T WE BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH FOR ONE DAY?

Anyone reconsidering their Grand Final guarantee membership?

9 minutes ago, JXB said:

This situation definitely has some similarities to both the Mitchel Hawthorn takeover and the McRae Collingwood takeover.

Both clubs had:

• long-running coaches who moved/were moved along, with a new first-time coach coming in.

• had old, outdated game plans that frustrated their fans

• Recent success with their current list

Then, when the new coach comes in:

• High-paid players were moved out (Collingwood: Grundy and Trelor, Hawthorn: Omera and Mitchell)

  • Although saying this, I believe Trac and Clarry are a different level of player, even if their past two years have been down

• A promise of a fast, modern game plan was made

Obviously, there are many differences in our situation, but I'm personally quite bullish on what this could bring about

Clarry has been my favourite player since that GWS Debut. So seeing him in another team's colours won't feel right

But I very much could see us playing some high-end footy in the back end of next year, with the first half being an adjustment period for the new game plan

McCrae had Daicos into the midfield. We have …?

Hawthorn cleaned out its stars and now look at them. King and his team have a responsibility to reinvigorate the list. Let's be honest, 24 and 25 appalling results given our premiership in 21. The midfield was slammed every week this season for been too slow. Our kicking from Clarry and Petracca highest paid duo, was rubbish. I applaud King if he brings speed and skill to the midfield.

This is a warning to the club against doing any monster-long contracts with players

Can you imagine how we would melt down if, after two more years on the bottom, Kossie decides he wants to leave? That is not unforseeable

7 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Probably one of the worst videos I've ever seen

McClure...insightful as always

Restaurant owner waiting for 2021 Premiership Reunion to arrive

5 minutes ago, BKKBooga said:

Hawthorn cleaned out its stars and now look at them. King and his team have a responsibility to reinvigorate the list. Let's be honest, 24 and 25 appalling results given our premiership in 21. The midfield was slammed every week this season for been too slow. Our kicking from Clarry and Petracca highest paid duo, was rubbish. I applaud King if he brings speed and skill to the midfield.

'If' being the make or break word in your post, BKKB

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Stiff Arm

Poor Tim's head is spinning, its all happening too fast

1 hour ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Why isn't Viney being told the same thing if we're completely looking to revamp our Midfield?

Because we still need inside mids and Viney is an A grade citizen who bleeds red and blue

13 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Probably one of the worst videos I've ever seen

The ego just dribbles out... Will he take accountability for his own 100% failed trade rumour?

10 minutes ago, Trident22 said:

McCrae had Daicos into the midfield. We have …?

Harvey, Kos and rivers?

15 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Probably one of the worst videos I've ever seen

He's still alive?

He's been so quiet i forgot he existed