It's too early for this. We need to reassess at the bye.

Right now, you trade one of them at least.

What you don't do, however, is give up entirely just yet. Both are well below their fitness peak but both seem to be on the right track. We will know more shortly.

Just hope the fact finding process isn't as painful as the past two weeks have been.

9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Morris would love to see them go. For this reason alone, hope they all remain one Club Players

Morris, despite his sins, is a passionate Dees supporter.

9 hours ago, Flowergirl said:

This will continue to be a talking point all year unfortunately, especially if we keep losing. But it's all conjecture at this point. I loved Hird's response though.

That's just it, win some games, show that the gameplan is taking some kind of shape and the blowtorch will simmer down a little.

It all depends on the return and what we think we can do with that return. If Oliver, Petracca and Pickett fill the top of the B n F and we finish the year strongly and they want to stay then I’m not trading them. Of course there’s various other scenarios that result in different outcomes. If I was a new coach I’d be holding them to their contracts. Players of this quality don’t grow on trees. Trading them is a giant risk. The conversation will switch to Goodwin and his love machine pretty damn soon if we don’t get some wins on the board.

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I think one should possibly go, and if so Clarrie as he has a terrible defensive game and doesnt hit the scoreboard.

One trade I would do is one of them for TDK but I think he’s Saints bound.

Ive gone from wanting Oliver gone to now saying you might as well keep him and see what a new coach can do with him given what you'd get back for him is sweet FA. Buying high and selling low is not the way.

Would be more than happy to move on from Viney for nothing however, his value is only going one way in the next 3 years and we need to get some youngsters into the midfield.

With Trac and Koz, hope a new coach brings some excitement and can convince them to hang around (that should have happened this year, wouldnt surprise me if they are too far gone now), if they cant do what you have to do and get Jason Taylor some picks and let him cook.

They put more and more of these s**t football shows on TV making it harder and harder to avoid watching them whilst you're simultaneously trying to avoid excessive adverts.

Thank god for streaming. I can recommend "The Residence" on Netflix which is very good.

3 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

They put more and more of these s**t football shows on TV making it harder and harder to avoid watching them whilst you're simultaneously trying to avoid excessive adverts.

Thank god for streaming. I can recommend "The Residence" on Netflix which is very good.

yes, the one with hird, mcguire and tom morris is like a conglomerate of richard craniums

One of the great services Demonland provides is that I can get an idea of what the clickbait is without actually clicking the bait.

40 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

One of the great services Demonland provides is that I can get an idea of what the clickbait is without actually clicking the bait.

ah, but is there not clickbait here as well? Why did I click on this thread knowing it was going to be just what it is.

4 minutes ago, sue said:

ah, but is there not clickbait here as well? Why did I click on this thread knowing it was going to be just what it is.

Me too 😕

35 minutes ago, sue said:

ah, but is there not clickbait here as well? Why did I click on this thread knowing it was going to be just what it is.

For a sense of community?

No CEO, waiting on a President, no crowds, never had a home base, coach on thin ice & no spirit

I’d be getting out if l was Trac & Clarry quick smart

44 minutes ago, sue said:

ah, but is there not clickbait here as well? Why did I click on this thread knowing it was going to be just what it is.

Because you’re bored and want a distraction

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

Players of this quality don’t grow on trees. Trading them is a giant risk.

Well said.

Trading is now a kind of industry within the industry. Huge parts of the AFL media is heavily biased towards a kind of "player movement is inherently good" ideology; for that reason you very rarely hear talk about trades going badly for either the player or the clubs involved - but this is common. The much-talked-about "win-win" is relatively rare. The industry LOVES a counterfactual, especially when it comes to the draft, but refuses to entertain them when it comes to the question of "What if a player decided to stay?"

I wouldn't say NEVER trade Petracca or Oliver, but I very much agree with RIF that it's a decision bubbling with danger.

Trac is gone

Oliver will stay because no club will take him

Koz gone

Tom Morris is a [censored], loved how Bevo treated him the way he should have treated him in that interview the other night, not looking at all like he wanted to give him any time of day because he doesn't deserve any.

25 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

Trac is gone

Oliver will stay because no club will take him

Koz gone

Yeh your predictions are so accurate 😂

How can Trac be traded when he doesn't even have an AFL registered player agent to help broker any deal?

If Petracca and Kossie were to leave and we were to get close to their value in draft picks, the rebuild is pretty close to done.
Add three more Top 10 picks to our 24 and unders and you've got a decent core of youth.

1 minute ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

If Petracca and Kossie were to leave and we were to get close to their value in draft picks, the rebuild is pretty close to done.
Add three more Top 10 picks to our 24 and unders and you've got a decent core of youth.

But we lose Petracca and Kozz. I understand where you are coming from but it’s a massive gamble. I’d much prefer to see Petracca and Kozz lead the current list of quality youngsters for the next few years. As every day goes by I’m leaning more towards keeping our talent and moving Richardson and Goodwin on at years end. I think that’s where a fresh set of eyes is most needed.

4 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

Clearly just a discussion piece but a good one to have if our results continue this way. Wouldn't trade all of them but at least one is going to need to learn a new position or be pushed out to make way for the younger brigade.

This is where I sit.

5 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

But we lose Petracca and Kozz. I understand where you are coming from but it’s a massive gamble. I’d much prefer to see Petracca and Kozz lead the current list of quality youngsters for the next few years. As every day goes by I’m leaning more towards keeping our talent and moving Richardson and Goodwin on at years end. I think that’s where a fresh set of eyes is most needed.

I'd agree.
I'm advocating for 'shopping them around', rather looking for a silver lining if they were to insist on a move.

I'm glad we held Petracca and Oliver to their contracts, but if it comes around again, and the offer is equitable I'd say take it.