This award is perhaps one of the most biased voting systems ever … with coaches often giving their players votes in preference to any “objective” review. 

Giants win by 3 points with a goal in the very last minute 

Melbourne v Greater Western Sydney

10 Toby Greene (GWS) 5,5
6 Tom Green (GWS). 3,3 
6 Christian Petracca (MELB) 2,4
5 Finn Callaghan (GWS)  4,1
2 Max Gawn (MELB) 0,2
1 Jake Lever (MELB) 1,0

KINGSLEY IS JOKING !! 5 Toby 4 Callaghan 3 Green 2 Trac 1 Lever 

Goody (too kind) 5 Toby 4 Trac 3 Green 2 Gawn 1 Callaghan 

and … in a see sawing match that could have gone either way as well … Lions won by 4 points 

Sydney v Brisbane

9 Josh Dunkley (BL)
8 Zac Bailey (BL)
4 James Jordon (SYD)
4 Darcy Wilmot (BL)
3 Jarrod Berry (BL)
2 Dayne Zorko (BL)

FAGAN IS JOKING !!!! And someone the bias needed to Dean Cox !!

Votes

Player (Club)

10 Toby Greene (GWS)

6 Tom Green (GWS)

6 Christian Petracca (MELB)

5 Finn Callaghan (GWS)

2 Max Gawn (MELB)

1 Jake Lever (MELB)

Leaderboard

Votes	Player	Club
15	Finn Callaghan	GWS
13	Karl Amon	HAW
11	Toby Greene	GWS
10	Jordan Dawson	ADEL
10	Will Day	HAW
10	Ed Richards	WB
10	Bailey Smith	GEEL
10	Jarrod Witts	GCFC
9	Jye Caldwell	ESS
9	Josh Dunkley	BL
9	Dan Houston	COLL
9	Dylan Moore	HAW
9	Toby Nankervis	RICH
9	Jack Ross	RICH
8	Noah Anderson	GCFC
8	Zac Bailey	BL
8	Bailey Dale	WB
8	James Sicily	HAW
8	Jake Soligo	ADEL
8	Sam Taylor	GWS

I thought Callaghan was better than Green but Toby smashed us really missed McVee. I think they did have the best 2 to 3 players on the ground but then we had the next 4 to 5 players on the ground.

Is goody often too nice to the opponent? 

I feel like the most biased coaches are Kingsley and Chris Scott.

Petty was far more better then Lever...

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Petty was far more better then Lever...

Toby kicked at least 1 on Petty and Petty was on him when he set up 1-2 others 

Petty was actually pretty average apart from his intercept work. 

Edited March 17, 20251 yr by At the break of Gawn

Toby Greene win them the game. deserved the 10 votes

11 hours ago, Flowergirl said:

Is goody often too nice to the opponent? 

I feel like the most biased coaches are Kingsley and Chris Scott.

And Luke Beveridge

I know that I've raised this before, but do we actually know how each coach voted or just the total votes for the match?

30 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

I know that I've raised this before, but do we actually know how each coach voted or just the total votes for the match?

 

@Lucifers Hero your input please.

13 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

KINGSLEY IS JOKING !! 5 Toby 4 Callaghan 3 Green 2 Trac 1 Lever 

Goody (too kind) 5 Toby 4 Trac 3 Green 2 Gawn 1 Callaghan 

 

 

40 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

I know that I've raised this before, but do we actually know how each coach voted or just the total votes for the match?

 

8 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

 

@Lucifers Hero your input please.

We can only know the shape of the votes as per the opening post.  As to which coach voted a certain way is a guess.

 

In this case the shape of the votes is correct but the attributed votes to Kingsley/Goodwin could be the other way round with no favoritism or leniency.

I notice the coaches gave the same votes to Greene (5) and Green(3) and both coaches gave votes to Callaghan and Trac.   For mine that is a very similar view of the game.

Based on Kingsley's press conference I think he gave Gawn votes.  He was pretty impressed with Max's game.  Goody not voting as highly for Gawn as the opposition coaches has been a common theme and likely explains his runner up place in the Bluey last year.

6 hours ago, Demonstone said:

I know that I've raised this before, but do we actually know how each coach voted or just the total votes for the match?

I operate on the assumption that if there is any bias in the voting, it's likely to be toward the opposition team, with coaches more inclined to mark their own players more harshly. 

Pies supporters staggered at this 

Collingwood v Port Adelaide

9 Dan Houston (COLL)
7 Steele Sidebottom (COLL)
5 Daniel McStay (COLL)
5 Nick Daicos (COLL)
2 Connor Rozee (PORT)
1 Patrick Lipinski (COLL)
1 Tim Membrey (COLL)

…allegedly McRae gave N.Daicos 5 and Houston 4.  His bias is unhinged !!! Definitely not BOG and would’ve been lucky to squeak a vote or two. 
Btw Hinkley gave Daicos ZERO !! 

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

…allegedly

In other words, nobody really knows and it's all just guesswork.

13 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

In other words, nobody really knows and it's all just guesswork.

I guess.

Speculated by many … 

McRae. 5 N Daicos 4 Houston 3 Sidebottom 2 McStay 1 Membrey 

Hinkley. 5 Houston 4 Sidebottom 3 McStay 2 Rozee 1 Lipinski 

Maybe the AFL should show what we’re each coach’s votes !!! 

4 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Speculated by many … 

McRae. 5 N Daicos 4 Houston 3 Sidebottom 2 McStay 1 Membrey 

Hinkley. 5 Houston 4 Sidebottom 3 McStay 2 Rozee 1 Lipinski 

Maybe the AFL should show what we’re each coach’s votes !!! 

Both McStay and Daicos received 5 votes and the above assumes it was Daicos 5/0 and McStay 2/3 but could have been the opposite ie

Coach 1.     5 McStay 4 Houston 3 Sidebottom 2 Daicos 1 Membrey 

Coach 2.    5 Houston 4 Sidebottom 3 Daicos 2 Rozee 1 Lipinski 

According to the stats (which I know aren't teh be all, end all),  McStay had a phenomenal game so I can see the 5/0 scenario.    It is anyone's guess which coach was McRae or Hinkley - I could make a case either way.   It is also anyone's guess the mix for McStay and Daicos 5 votes.

 

Coll fans are too blind to see any sort of common sense let alone be rational. 

Edited March 19, 20251 yr by Lucifers Hero