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2025 COACHES VOTES: Round 01

spirit of norm smith
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This award is perhaps one of the most biased voting systems ever … with coaches often giving their players votes in preference to any “objective” review. 

Giants win by 3 points with a goal in the very last minute 

Melbourne v Greater Western Sydney

10 Toby Greene (GWS) 5,5
6 Tom Green (GWS). 3,3 
6 Christian Petracca (MELB) 2,4
5 Finn Callaghan (GWS)  4,1
2 Max Gawn (MELB) 0,2
1 Jake Lever (MELB) 1,0

KINGSLEY IS JOKING !! 5 Toby 4 Callaghan 3 Green 2 Trac 1 Lever 

Goody (too kind) 5 Toby 4 Trac 3 Green 2 Gawn 1 Callaghan 

and … in a see sawing match that could have gone either way as well … Lions won by 4 points 

Sydney v Brisbane

9 Josh Dunkley (BL)
8 Zac Bailey (BL)
4 James Jordon (SYD)
4 Darcy Wilmot (BL)
3 Jarrod Berry (BL)
2 Dayne Zorko (BL)

FAGAN IS JOKING !!!! And someone the bias needed to Dean Cox !!

Votes
Player (Club)
10 Toby Greene (GWS)
6 Tom Green (GWS)
6 Christian Petracca (MELB)
5 Finn Callaghan (GWS)
2 Max Gawn (MELB)
1 Jake Lever (MELB)

Leaderboard

Votes Player Club
15 Finn Callaghan GWS
13 Karl Amon HAW
11 Toby Greene GWS
10 Jordan Dawson ADEL
10 Will Day HAW
10 Ed Richards WB
10 Bailey Smith GEEL
10 Jarrod Witts GCFC
9 Jye Caldwell ESS
9 Josh Dunkley BL
9 Dan Houston COLL
9 Dylan Moore HAW
9 Toby Nankervis RICH
9 Jack Ross RICH
8 Noah Anderson GCFC
8 Zac Bailey BL
8 Bailey Dale WB
8 James Sicily HAW
8 Jake Soligo ADEL
8 Sam Taylor GWS
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    I thought Callaghan was better than Green but Toby smashed us really missed McVee. I think they did have the best 2 to 3 players on the ground but then we had the next 4 to 5 players on the ground.

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    3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Petty was far more better then Lever...

    Toby kicked at least 1 on Petty and Petty was on him when he set up 1-2 others 

    Petty was actually pretty average apart from his intercept work. 

    Edited by At the break of Gawn

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    Toby Greene win them the game. deserved the 10 votes

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    11 hours ago, Flowergirl said:

    Is goody often too nice to the opponent? 

    I feel like the most biased coaches are Kingsley and Chris Scott.

    And Luke Beveridge

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    I know that I've raised this before, but do we actually know how each coach voted or just the total votes for the match?

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    13 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    KINGSLEY IS JOKING !! 5 Toby 4 Callaghan 3 Green 2 Trac 1 Lever 

    Goody (too kind) 5 Toby 4 Trac 3 Green 2 Gawn 1 Callaghan 

     

     

    40 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

    I know that I've raised this before, but do we actually know how each coach voted or just the total votes for the match?

     

    8 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

     

    @Lucifers Hero your input please.

    We can only know the shape of the votes as per the opening post.  As to which coach voted a certain way is a guess.

     

    In this case the shape of the votes is correct but the attributed votes to Kingsley/Goodwin could be the other way round with no favoritism or leniency.

    I notice the coaches gave the same votes to Greene (5) and Green(3) and both coaches gave votes to Callaghan and Trac.   For mine that is a very similar view of the game.

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    Based on Kingsley's press conference I think he gave Gawn votes.  He was pretty impressed with Max's game.  Goody not voting as highly for Gawn as the opposition coaches has been a common theme and likely explains his runner up place in the Bluey last year.

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    6 hours ago, Demonstone said:

    I know that I've raised this before, but do we actually know how each coach voted or just the total votes for the match?

    I operate on the assumption that if there is any bias in the voting, it's likely to be toward the opposition team, with coaches more inclined to mark their own players more harshly. 

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    Pies supporters staggered at this 

    Collingwood v Port Adelaide

    9 Dan Houston (COLL)
    7 Steele Sidebottom (COLL)
    5 Daniel McStay (COLL)
    5 Nick Daicos (COLL)
    2 Connor Rozee (PORT)
    1 Patrick Lipinski (COLL)
    1 Tim Membrey (COLL)

    …allegedly McRae gave N.Daicos 5 and Houston 4.  His bias is unhinged !!! Definitely not BOG and would’ve been lucky to squeak a vote or two. 
    Btw Hinkley gave Daicos ZERO !! 

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    1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    …allegedly

    In other words, nobody really knows and it's all just guesswork.

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    13 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

    In other words, nobody really knows and it's all just guesswork.

    I guess.

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    Speculated by many … 

    McRae. 5 N Daicos 4 Houston 3 Sidebottom 2 McStay 1 Membrey 

    Hinkley. 5 Houston 4 Sidebottom 3 McStay 2 Rozee 1 Lipinski 

    Maybe the AFL should show what we’re each coach’s votes !!! 

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    4 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Speculated by many … 

    McRae. 5 N Daicos 4 Houston 3 Sidebottom 2 McStay 1 Membrey 

    Hinkley. 5 Houston 4 Sidebottom 3 McStay 2 Rozee 1 Lipinski 

    Maybe the AFL should show what we’re each coach’s votes !!! 

    Both McStay and Daicos received 5 votes and the above assumes it was Daicos 5/0 and McStay 2/3 but could have been the opposite ie

    Coach 1.     5 McStay 4 Houston 3 Sidebottom 2 Daicos 1 Membrey 

    Coach 2.    5 Houston 4 Sidebottom 3 Daicos 2 Rozee 1 Lipinski 

    According to the stats (which I know aren't teh be all, end all),  McStay had a phenomenal game so I can see the 5/0 scenario.    It is anyone's guess which coach was McRae or Hinkley - I could make a case either way.   It is also anyone's guess the mix for McStay and Daicos 5 votes.

     

    Coll fans are too blind to see any sort of common sense let alone be rational. 

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