On 20/03/2025 at 05:04, 640MD said:

Can I argue that the topic of this thread is disrespectful to Demon supporters,  Not saying that the topic or discussion is wrong  just that it needs to be worded differently

I agree

I do not have an issue with the subject matter as the topic is well worthy of discussion

But the thread name??

How about 'How can we get more people to attend our games'

 

Attendance numbers post covid for the competition have risen but mainly due to extra rounds, split rounds (round zero) and marketing of a few blockbusters. I suspect most home and way games are showing relatively stagnant attendance figures. Similarly TV audiences are up simply because we have 9 games per weekend that don't clash.

I doubt that there's much more juice in the lemon unless you can increase the number of theatre goers and lets face it they were never coming out late on a Sunday against an absolute premier sporting event such as the F1 GP. It's all about the event rather than the game. (Just ask the racing clubs). A St Patrick's Day game (Jimmy's Game) might work but you would need to invest big in the hoopla and of course don't go up against F1.

When LIV golf paid a DJ $2M plus to spin in Adelaide and even F1 said it wasn't within their budget you realise how things have moved on.

  On 20/03/2025 at 02:17, KozzyCan said:

100% Our social media profile is awful and cringeworthy. Giants are the gold standard in that department and who we should emulate.

Wow …& their crowds are a result of that 🤨

  On 20/03/2025 at 06:02, Deestar9 said:

Wow …& their crowds are a result of that 🤨

Yeah that was exactly my point, good job.

  On 20/03/2025 at 05:15, roy11 said:

Reminds me of this Video - from Captain's day and they were trying to rank the captains by followers on instagram. 

Danger makes a dumb remark about our supporters being at the snow and Maxy says most of our supporters are 60 and don't have instagram, and he'd be higher on the list if it was facebook etc.

Link: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DG2iXSpSJ6J/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

 

he's not wrong

hence why a gw$ or dingley style campaign wouldn't work for the mfc

  On 20/03/2025 at 06:12, whatwhat say what said:

he's not wrong

hence why a gw$ or dingley style campaign wouldn't work for the mfc

Right so we focus all our efforts into appealing to a 60+ demographic. Some real room for growth there.

Carlton and hawthorn fans are pathetic.:: stadium empty 😜

  On 20/03/2025 at 06:29, KozzyCan said:

Right so we focus all our efforts into appealing to a 60+ demographic. Some real room for growth there.

well, people ARE living longer... and boomers have more disposable income than any other generation...

Afl fixture is a joke! GWS, Nth & Suns, talk about shafting a club for gate receipts, going up against F1 well done afl 

  On 20/03/2025 at 08:51, whatwhat say what said:

well, people ARE living longer... and boomers have more disposable income than any other generation...

Maybe you're right. Global Warming is going to kill us all in 50 years so there won't be any football clubs anyway.

  On 20/03/2025 at 00:40, Ghostwriter said:

You need to compromise, W. Try to get involved in something she’s interested in. This is what I do. My sons don’t get into footy. I watch MAFS (I know right) because my older two watch it (again, I know right) and we have a group chat going during each episode which makes it fun. My youngest isn’t into MAFS. He has Asperger’s so if you wanna know anything (and everything, literally EVERYTHING) about 17th century Northern European naval artillery… I’m your gal 👍🏽😅

I don't have asperger's but I do have much-loved copies of Mahan and Corbett, and my brother has even visited the Vasa in Stockholm, so we might get along.

MAFS, though... hmm... that's a whole other spectrum.

Is your son familiar with Drachinifel on youtube? Mostly a more modern steel-hull era coverage but does some great walk-throughs of the evolution of naval shot, shell and armour. Did you know they actually had to grade armour protection ratings differently for ships intended for colonial service in warmer waters? 😃

  On 20/03/2025 at 09:59, KozzyCan said:

Maybe you're right. Global Warming is going to kill us all in 50 years so there won't be any football clubs anyway.

I like your optimism. It's like Michael Voss commenting that he might get sacked at the end of the season.

  On 20/03/2025 at 06:29, KozzyCan said:

Right so we focus all our efforts into appealing to a 60+ demographic. Some real room for growth there.

Is it just me but I see heaps of kids at our games & that’s why I don’t mind day games …kids come & they are our future 

  On 20/03/2025 at 08:51, whatwhat say what said:

well, people ARE living longer... and boomers have more disposable income than any other generation...

Due to a declining birth rate, Gen Z will likely be the largest demographic in our history. Have to focus on youth… will pay dividends in the future.

  On 20/03/2025 at 05:16, Macca said:

I agree

I do not have an issue with the subject matter as the topic is well worthy of discussion

But the thread name??

How about 'How can we get more people to attend our games'

 

If you put that in a forum search on DL, not even the new software would be able to keep up with the results.

  On 20/03/2025 at 11:06, Little Goffy said:

I don't have asperger's but I do have much-loved copies of Mahan and Corbett, and my brother has even visited the Vasa in Stockholm, so we might get along.

MAFS, though... hmm... that's a whole other spectrum.

Is your son familiar with Drachinifel on youtube? Mostly a more modern steel-hull era coverage but does some great walk-throughs of the evolution of naval shot, shell and armour. Did you know they actually had to grade armour protection ratings differently for ships intended for colonial service in warmer waters? 😃

He may be, but I daren’t ask him at 10:45pm. I’d likely still be listening to him at 4am. I adore him but I need sleep 😅

so ~62,700 there tonight

last year baggers had 107k members, dingley had 89k - just shy of 200k members in total 

where were they? watching from the comfort of their fishbowls, dog cages, and cat climbers?

  On 20/03/2025 at 11:06, Little Goffy said:

Is your son familiar with Drachinifel on youtube? Mostly a more modern steel-hull era coverage but does some great walk-throughs of the evolution of naval shot, shell and armour. Did you know they actually had to grade armour protection ratings differently for ships intended for colonial service in warmer waters? 😃

Nothing to do with naval warfare etc, but a  guitarist friend who I was in a band with in 1979, but returned to the UK where he was from, in Norwich, for some time now has been making long bows as well as training actors in their use, to add authenticity to films they are appearing in, such as Braveheart, Robin Hood, and Assassin’s Creed among others. His first cousin is Mick Ralphs of Mott the Hoople and Bad Company fame.

More useless off topic information, courtesy of my good self… you’re welcome 😉

  On 20/03/2025 at 11:52, whatwhat say what said:

so ~62,700 there tonight

last year baggers had 107k members, dingley had 89k - just shy of 200k members in total 

where were they? watching from the comfort of their fishbowls, dog cages, and cat climbers?

Clearly their supporters are as pathetic as ours 🙃 maybe even more so. 

  On 20/03/2025 at 11:14, Deestar9 said:

Is it just me but I see heaps of kids at our games & that’s why I don’t mind day games …kids come & they are our future 

60+ month demographic??

  On 20/03/2025 at 11:52, whatwhat say what said:

so ~62,700 there tonight

last year baggers had 107k members, dingley had 89k - just shy of 200k members in total 

where were they? watching from the comfort of their fishbowls, dog cages, and cat climbers?

Up against the Mighty Socceroos

  On 20/03/2025 at 00:40, Ghostwriter said:

You need to compromise, W. Try to get involved in something she’s interested in. This is what I do. My sons don’t get into footy. I watch MAFS (I know right) because my older two watch it (again, I know right) and we have a group chat going during each episode which makes it fun. My youngest isn’t into MAFS. He has Asperger’s so if you wanna know anything (and everything, literally EVERYTHING) about 17th century Northern European naval artillery… I’m your gal 👍🏽😅

MAFS vs Northern European Naval Artillery…has the makings of a Hard Quiz classic.

  On 20/03/2025 at 05:43, Diamond_Jim said:

Attendance numbers post covid for the competition have risen but mainly due to extra rounds, split rounds (round zero) and marketing of a few blockbusters. I suspect most home and way games are showing relatively stagnant attendance figures. Similarly TV audiences are up simply because we have 9 games per weekend that don't clash.

I doubt that there's much more juice in the lemon unless you can increase the number of theatre goers and lets face it they were never coming out late on a Sunday against an absolute premier sporting event such as the F1 GP. It's all about the event rather than the game. (Just ask the racing clubs). A St Patrick's Day game (Jimmy's Game) might work but you would need to invest big in the hoopla and of course don't go up against F1.

When LIV golf paid a DJ $2M plus to spin in Adelaide and even F1 said it wasn't within their budget you realise how things have moved on.

Once again  post with very little substance or reason just rash generalisations trying to prove that footy is not bigger now in attendances since before Covid. 

Memberships are up solidly and there are greater numbers of 50,60 70, and 80,000 ( even odd 90,000) games more than ever. 

Sydney Swans and Brisbane alone are attracting regular sold out games ( Lions 8 or 9 of 11 home game selllouts in 2024) and Swans had record home and away numbers ever. 

in WA despite their near bottom grade position Eagles still had predominantly over 40,000 each game and Dockers more 40,000/50,000 days than in the 30,000’s.

SA had both Clubs record high over 40,000 crowds for a majority of their games. SF o the situation is far more healthy with even GWS and Suns raiding their memberships and crowds for 2024. 

Thrre are no more games just better arranged blockbusters and other non competing matches in a smart promotional way. 

Bottom line is you can’t make people attend if they don’t want to but the footy has never been more competitive and That’s what supporters like. 

Do there are genuine increases in AFL since Covid in all States along with record membership no’s despite your randomly asserted response that this is not so! 

 

  On 20/03/2025 at 03:45, titan_uranus said:

This topic is always triggering, to everyone no matter what your views are.

IMO the crowd on Sunday was completely within what ought to have been expected. Scheduling a game against the lowest or second-lowest supported interstate side against the Grand Prix was always going to result in a low crowd, and then add to that the rain, and it's not just unsurprising, but honestly pleasing, that the crowd was 23,000+.

If you watch on TV, you don't get it, because the MCC is consistently 10x more packed than anywhere else in the ground and you can't see the MCC

 

This is a very salient point, which is too often ignored. Has consideration ever been given to reversing the broadcast position?

  On 20/03/2025 at 17:20, 58er said:

Once again  post with very little substance or reason just rash generalisations trying to prove that footy is not bigger now in attendances since before Covid. 

Memberships are up solidly and there are greater numbers of 50,60 70, and 80,000 ( even odd 90,000) games more than ever. 

Sydney Swans and Brisbane alone are attracting regular sold out games ( Lions 8 or 9 of 11 home game selllouts in 2024) and Swans had record home and away numbers ever. 

in WA despite their near bottom grade position Eagles still had predominantly over 40,000 each game and Dockers more 40,000/50,000 days than in the 30,000’s.

SA had both Clubs record high over 40,000 crowds for a majority of their games. SF o the situation is far more healthy with even GWS and Suns raiding their memberships and crowds for 2024. 

Thrre are no more games just better arranged blockbusters and other non competing matches in a smart promotional way. 

Bottom line is you can’t make people attend if they don’t want to but the footy has never been more competitive and That’s what supporters like. 

Do there are genuine increases in AFL since Covid in all States along with record membership no’s despite your randomly asserted response that this is not so! 

 

 

I really don't think there's much to be impressed about getting a couple of friends to come to a game when there are only two teams in the city. Your chances of knowing someone else who is available and supports the same team is 5 times higher than in Melbourne, and all local sports coverage includes your team in every broadcast.

There's also generally just one game a week in the other cities, so literally everyone who just wants to go to a game of football is there. I'd invite everyone on Demonland to mentally add up all the non-Melbourne games they might go to in a season. Is it, say, once, in a whole season? Because even that would work out to 50,000 attendances a week just in little old Adelaide.

The Gabba's official capacity is 42,000. Brisbane did not pass 35,000 in the home and away season and struggled to reach even 30,000 during 'winter' up there.

Most Swans games had crowds around the 35k mark. Their four 40k+ games were against the Blues, Cats, Giants and, indeed, Demons.

Crows got 29,800 against GWS last season, so... that's fun.

Port got 27,500 against Richmond, and except for the showdowns they barely managed to crack 40,000 in the H&A season.

Western Australia is a special world of it's own, but you'll struggle to convince me there's anything amazing about 40-50k a week when you've got an AFL mad population of 3 million split between two teams, and all the advantages noted above.

 

I don't know why people are so obsessed with 'proving' that there's something wrong or weak about Demon supporters, but I do get irritated by entirely disingenuous use of numbers - or 58ers case here, just imagining numbers to suit your feelings.