Just now, lorn said:

No one complains when we take players other clubs have developed

Probably because they’re all C graders

Edited yesterday at 04:211 day by Greg Schneider

2 minutes ago, lorn said:

No one complains when we take players other clubs have developed

Supporters of those clubs do if those players are any good

Edited yesterday at 04:211 day by Jaded No More

5 minutes ago, lorn said:

No one complains when we take players other clubs have developed

May and Lever the last players to fit that category..both had given several more years to their respective clubs. Would love to hear other examples

18 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Wow, so much outrage for a guy who even if he played all 23 games wouldn't have finished top 10 or top 15 in our BnF this year.

Let him go to Freo. I would be surprised if he starts in their 22 by round 1. He's not a dashing half back, his decision making is too slow as a midfielder, and as a small defender I've seen him be toweled up by Rankine and Higgins far too many times

See ya Judd.

9th in our B+F year 1. 7th last year.

Beaten by a couple of good players when our backline leaked like a sieve.

If you don’t think this is a terrible result for the footy club you’re kidding yourself.

16 minutes ago, Beetle said:

Well I’ve got tickets for January sooo……

Well you are obviously a person of good musical taste! I hope it’s the same set he played last year at Brutal Assault. It was killer!

40 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Not really. None of those guys are lockdown defenders. Judd had the ability to win 1v1s and then slingshot. Bowey and Salem maybe, but it'd be nice to have the option of playing Bowey or Salem at half forward. That's much harder now.

Howes is 100% a lockdown def, as is Salem. Salem's 1v1 work is very, very good. But pace obviously an issue.

I like the idea of Salem going deeper in def and putting Lindsey one the HBF where he played a lot int the TAC cup.

It is a position we can cover the easiest on our list, besides inside Mids.

He will struggle to make it regularly at Freo. They are not short of defenders or mids.

all good @Ghostwriter you could not have known. If he was going he was never going to admit it - even to you. I know I wouldn’t. I mean what’s to gain.

The bloke is the type of player you don’t want around the club… he’ll always have one eye out the door. better now than in 3-4 years time. We should push hard for pick 11 but unlikely unless we return our 2nd rounder or F2 l. we should otherwise be asking for their 2nd and F2 as Juddy isn’t a first rounder.

The collective naivety on this site is super cute. ☺️

I have no issue with the messaging from the Judd camp, and other area’s, being that re would re-sign on two years.

But the faux moral outrage that he ‘lied’ to a supporter is bizarre.

2 minutes ago, Trident22 said:

May and Lever the last players to fit that category..both had given several more years to their respective clubs. Would love to hear other examples

Langdon the last good player we took from someone that actually wanted them.

5 years now of being nothing but a farm team for the league to take the likes of Bedford and JJ and now a really classy player that we couldn’t afford to lose.

4 minutes ago, Trident22 said:

May and Lever the last players to fit that category..both had given several more years to their respective clubs. Would love to hear other examples

Langdon

Essendon fans were very upset about losing Hibbo as well

Edited yesterday at 04:301 day by Jaded No More

3 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

Well you are obviously a person of good musical taste! I hope it’s the same set he played last year at Brutal Assault. It was killer!

Full Immortal set.

11 minutes ago, lorn said:

No one complains when we take players other clubs have developed

Yeah, just like there was no outrage when Houston came out and said he’d be playing at Port. At that point it looked like it he was destined for us and posters on here found that statement hilarious.

Swings and roundabouts.

1 minute ago, BLWNBA said:

The collective naivety on this site is super cute. ☺️

I have no issue with the messaging from the Judd camp, and other area’s, being that re would re-sign on two years.

But the faux moral outrage that he ‘lied’ to a supporter is bizarre.

Don’t care that he lied to a fan. It’s poor but it happens.

Care that he lied to the club for months and that his manager wasted our time and got the club to redraw contracts several times as his demands changed.

And then lied about waiting for a new coach.

1 minute ago, BLWNBA said:

Yeah, just like there was no outrage when Houston came out and said he’d be playing at Port. At that point it looked like it he was destined for us and posters on here found that statement hilarious.

Swings and roundabouts.

We should send the McVee compo to the Pies for Houston, they may even pay half his wage

4D chess!

3 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Langdon

Essendon fans were very upset about losing Hibbo as well

they only have themselves (even though they blamed Hird) to blame for Hibbo and Melk coming to us. And I love it!!

What can we realistically expect in return for the trade? I don’t want [censored] picks. Make them give up a player and some picks.

He wants to be a running half back?

We need a couple of those FFS!

1 minute ago, Trident22 said:

What can we realistically expect in return for the trade? I don’t want [censored] picks. Make them give up a player and some picks.

Best case is probs 2nd round + F2 for McVee + 3rd rounder I reckon

51 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Next year is projecting to be a heap better than this year. Pick 29 may as well be pick 55 this year. If we can do a deal for 11, would much rather a future 2nd.

If Freo are poaching him, they need to pay up. It’s on them to get the deal done.

Still a very compromised top end draft again. Unfortunately, the "they need to pay up" mentality from supporters isn't how it actually works, even though I wish it was!

Mcvee and the spargo compo for pick 11?

3 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

Howes is 100% a lockdown def, as is Salem. Salem's 1v1 work is very, very good. But pace obviously an issue.

I like the idea of Salem going deeper in def and putting Lindsey one the HBF where he played a lot int the TAC cup.

It is a position we can cover the easiest on our list, besides inside Mids.

If we could cover it why didn’t Judd play back flank when he came back in to the side?

Maybe 5 years ago Salem sure, but it’s clear as day he wouldn’t have the pace. Maybe if Willie Rioli unretires and doubles the keg he might be able to catch him.

Howes is seen as a lock down defender because he can’t do stuff all else at afl level. But any small forward with any smarts is running rings around him. At Casey he’s an intercepting and rebounding half back which is where he should play at AFL level but the game is too fast for him.

I said last year go and get a lock down back so Judd doesn’t have to do it. But no, Timmy Mutton Lamb and co stick with Marty Hore. This is the result.

Tell Freo it’s pick 11 for Judd or he’s off to the draft

God I hate Freo!

Send him to the Eagles, he will have plenty of mates with limited ability.

18 minutes ago, Greg Schneider said:

Probably because they’re all C graders

Vfl players at best