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What I don't understand is if there are supposedly 2 quality cat B's. Why wouldn't we promote Moniz-Wakefield instead of using pick 83 so we could take both Mentha and Andrew as Cat B's.

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    11 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

    What I don't understand is if there are supposedly 2 quality cat B's. Why wouldn't we promote Moniz-Wakefield instead of using pick 83 so we could take both Mentha and Andrew as Cat B's.

    I may be wrong, but I thought that because we overlooked Andrew last year we can’t add him as a Cat B rookie this year. In any case, I think we can upgrade AMW to the Cat A list if required.

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    6 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

    Hey @Pennant St Dee, what's Aiden Riddle like out of curiosity (shot in the dark)? Have you come across him much in your travels? Cheers

    Yes I know Riddler quite well, actually spoke to him on Friday night, absolute ripper of a kid genuinely nice person who is very coachable and still learning the forward craft to be more of a fwd ruck then the other way around. Has very nice soft hands at the tap, good at ground level and with his second efforts. One thing I would love to see improve is a bit more hardness 

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    I’d like to see the Dees pickup a youngster with the “last draft pick”.   We should have the place on the list available.   There is talent all the way through even in the 4th round/ late 60s.  Definitely like to give JT a stretch assignment and roll the dice … 

     

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    It doesn't matter if it is pick 79 or 83. 

    Then there will be a couple of rookie draft picks which are taken after this..... we will be selecting at the absolute dregs end of the draft. 

    We only have 2 decent picks, no way to build for the future.

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    2 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

    It doesn't matter if it is pick 79 or 83. 

    Then there will be a couple of rookie draft picks which are taken after this..... we will be selecting at the absolute dregs end of the draft. 

    We only have 2 decent picks, no way to build for the future.

    Judd, JVR, Windsor, Jeffo, Turner, Bowey, Tholstrup, Rivers, Pickett, pick 5, pick 9. So there’s no future there?

    That list also doesn’t include some players who are slightly older in Petty, Sparrow and Chandler. 

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    19 minutes ago, adonski said:

    It's actually pick 79 this is significant

     

    Can anyone work out what that will come into? Brisbane have 6 picks, so that gives 4 spots into 75.

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    13 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

    It doesn't matter if it is pick 79 or 83. 

    Then there will be a couple of rookie draft picks which are taken after this..... we will be selecting at the absolute dregs end of the draft. 

    We only have 2 decent picks, no way to build for the future.

    Two elite picks* 

    Very different from two ‘decent’ picks

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    29 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

    Can anyone work out what that will come into? Brisbane have 6 picks, so that gives 4 spots into 75.

    6 Brisbane for 2 picks. +4

    3 Gold Coast for 1 pick. +2

    7 Essendon picks. Not sure what they'll do with them but assume at least 2 go for Kako. +1.

    5 Carlton picks post 38 that probably go on 3 players. +2 there

    St Kilda have some pick shuffling to do to get in position to match their academy players

    No doubt a few clubs pass and go with rookies/train on instead once it gets right to the back.

    Probably ends up around 60-70. Cal says somewhere between 63-72 picks and ours will be somewhere between the 5th and 10th last.

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    3 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

    Am I right in saying after all the picks are used for FS and academy players it is likely to be inside 60?

    I’m guessing somewhere between 60-70

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    Just now, DeeSpencer said:

    6 Brisbane for 2 picks. +4

    3 Gold Coast for 1 pick. +2

    7 Essendon picks. Not sure what they'll do with them but assume at least 2 go for Kako. +1.

    5 Carlton picks post 38 that probably go on 3 players. +2 there

    St Kilda have some pick shuffling to do to get in position to match their academy players

    Probably ends up around 70.

    Then there may be clubs that pass in the 60s as well. 

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    Well looks like we won't be using this pick after all...

     

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    1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Well looks like we won't be using this pick after all...

     

    Yes we are. That was known.

    Main list still at 33 with 3 spots.

    Our 6 man A Rookie list is full, hence Melk getting re-promoted: Hore, AMW, Sestan, Verrall, Brown, Kentfield.

    Cat B Rookie list is empty.

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    4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Well looks like we won't be using this pick after all...

     

    I'm not up to date on list spots, would both Melksham & McVee being upgraded to the senior list rule out splitting pick 9?

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    4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Well looks like we won't be using this pick after all...

     

    Pretty sure in the list contract thread this was accounted for and we still had 3 list spots.

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    3 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

    Pretty sure in the list contract thread this was accounted for and we still had 3 list spots.

    That's good. As great as picks 5 & 9 are we need to leave room for a throw at the stumps.

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    33 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Well looks like we won't be using this pick after all...

     

    Dazzle, I believe we can use draft picks from rounds 6 to 10 (which will come in to the 65-75 range) to promote them.  (pick 79 is round 5)

     

    Edit:  Our picks in rnd 6 and 7 aren't listed in Cal's chart and I'm guessing we have flagged to the AFL we will use them to promote McVee and Melksham so no longer available at the draft.
     

    Edited by Lucifers Hero

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    7 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

    Pretty sure in the list contract thread this was accounted for and we still had 3 list spots.

     

    9 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Yes we are. That was known.

    Main list still at 33 with 3 spots.

    Our 6 man A Rookie list is full, hence Melk getting re-promoted: Hore, AMW, Sestan, Verrall, Brown, Kentfield.

    Cat B Rookie list is empty.

    Right no worries, makes sense now.

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    22 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Yes we are. That was known.

    Main list still at 33 with 3 spots.

    Our 6 man A Rookie list is full, hence Melk getting re-promoted: Hore, AMW, Sestan, Verrall, Brown, Kentfield.

    Cat B Rookie list is empty.

    We have:

    3 - Senior spots after promoting McVee and Melksham

    1 - A-Rookie spot.  AMW is still a B-Rookie as has played less than 10 games.  See below.

    1 - B Rookie spot

    From the Contracts thread.

    On 31/10/2024 at 07:17, Lucifers Hero said:

    The rules changed to allow players to stay Rookies for 5 years if they have played less than 10 career games.

    It makes no difference to AMW to remain a B-Rookie but it gives the club the chance to recruit an A-Rookie where the recruitment rules are less strict than for B-Rookies.

    AMW remains a B-Rookie which leaves 1 A-Rookie and 1 B-Rookie spot.

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    3 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    We have:

    3 - Senior spots after promoting McVee and Melksham

    1 - A-Rookie spot (AMW is still a B-Rookie)

    1 - B Rookie spot

    From the Contracts thread.

    The Age seemed to think he had to slide across to the Cat A list. Not sure the AFL ever publicly clarified if players can stay as Cat B rookies for longer than 3 years. The 5 years might be for the overall rookie list.

    Either way, we'll have 3 main list spots.

     

    Judd McVee will be upgraded to the primary list, and Andy Moniz-Wakefield can no longer be a category B rookie.

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    7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

    The Age seemed to think he had to slide across to the Cat A list. Not sure the AFL ever publicly clarified if players can stay as Cat B rookies for longer than 3 years. The 5 years might be for the overall rookie list.

    Either way, we'll have 3 main list spots.

     

    Judd McVee will be upgraded to the primary list, and Andy Moniz-Wakefield can no longer be a category B rookie.

     

    The Age have it wrong!

     

    Edit:

    Rookies – time on list

    The AFL will introduce a trigger for an additional fourth year on the Rookie List where the Rookie has played less than ten career AFL matches, which will then apply in same way for access to an additional fifth year.  Total aggregate years on the Rookie List will be capped at five years (5.5 years for Mid-Season Rookie Draft).

    player-movement-and-list-management-changes

    Edited by Lucifers Hero

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    In other words we'll get 5 new players through the draft/Rookie selections..?

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