Pert and Roffey - The Review Thread

[dazzledavey36 55,300]

6 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Whoops!!

[whatwhat say what 22,884]

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Was listening to triple M yesterday and Jay Clark and Damo Barrett stated the following

• Kate Roffey is the first of a few changes. One of those big changes is Gary Pert also being pushed out potentially. 

• Steven Smith is pretty much in the box seat to be our next president. Will be going on a much needed holiday in the next couple of weeks after negotiating some pretty big business deals and may be announced in the back end of the year.

• Trac and Goodwin caught up at a Cafe in Armadale on Thursday and by all reports it was a positive one for both parties.

my suspicion is that pert will go some time into the 2025 season, not prior to it

i don't understand why smith would WANT to come on to the board and be president if he's that exhausted from his long legal career; will he be actually motivated to enact change or is he simply coming on as a last resort for the club?

i love the way these players / officials always meet in the same places; catching up at philippa's for a croissant is hardly out of the way - now if you'd told me that they shared a snag out at casey watching the aflw then i'd be genuinely shocked

[KozzyCan 764]

13 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

my suspicion is that pert will go some time into the 2025 season, not prior to it

i don't understand why smith would WANT to come on to the board and be president if he's that exhausted from his long legal career; will he be actually motivated to enact change or is he simply coming on as a last resort for the club?

i love the way these players / officials always meet in the same places; catching up at philippa's for a croissant is hardly out of the way - now if you'd told me that they shared a snag out at casey watching the aflw then i'd be genuinely shocked

 Does Pert have a contract or is he ongoing?

Re smith, being a footy club president is an unpaid passion project. No where near comparable to a full-time high intensity profession.

Edited September 8 by KozzyCan

[Adam The God 30,403]

I'd like a PJ review from top to bottom and Al Nicholson to become CEO. That'd be nice. 

[Hawk the Demon 1,028]

And this is how Mr Pert acts towards a member if you step out of line (from Lawrence's deposition in the recent Federal Court case):

On 22 November 2022 at 12:30pm, I met with Mr Pert for a coffee at his request.
During our meeting Mr Pert said words to the effect that:
(a) MFC had incurred costs of some $500,000 in the last two years as a result of
my actions in running in the 2020/21 and 2021/22 elections, and a separate
proceeding in the Supreme Court of Victoria (in which I successfully obtained
access to the register of members); and
(b) there would be many ripple effects if I continued to agitate governance issues,
such as player sponsorships (for example, my platinum sponsorship of Kade
Chandler) no longer being offered to me, and my donations (such as my
Club 11 donation for the development of Gosch’s Paddock) no longer being
accepted by MFC.

On or around 5 December 2022, I spoke to ....... who was coordinator of the
Inner Sanctum and Player Sponsors, over the telephone. ...... informed me
that I would not be offered the opportunity to renew my platinum player sponsorship
of Kade Chandler in 2023.

[layzie 33,987]

23 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

I'd like a PJ review from top to bottom and Al Nicholson to become CEO. That'd be nice. 

PJ sounds like the natural choice.

I do feel like Geoff Walsh has got good experience with reviews but that might be more footy department focussed?

[titan_uranus 25,028]

22 minutes ago, Hawk the Demon said:

And this is how Mr Pert acts towards a member if you step out of line (from Lawrence's deposition in the recent Federal Court case):

On 22 November 2022 at 12:30pm, I met with Mr Pert for a coffee at his request.
During our meeting Mr Pert said words to the effect that:
(a) MFC had incurred costs of some $500,000 in the last two years as a result of
my actions in running in the 2020/21 and 2021/22 elections, and a separate
proceeding in the Supreme Court of Victoria (in which I successfully obtained
access to the register of members); and
(b) there would be many ripple effects if I continued to agitate governance issues,
such as player sponsorships (for example, my platinum sponsorship of Kade
Chandler) no longer being offered to me, and my donations (such as my
Club 11 donation for the development of Gosch’s Paddock) no longer being
accepted by MFC.

On or around 5 December 2022, I spoke to ....... who was coordinator of the
Inner Sanctum and Player Sponsors, over the telephone. ...... informed me
that I would not be offered the opportunity to renew my platinum player sponsorship
of Kade Chandler in 2023.

Where did you get this from @Hawk the Demon?

[Hawk the Demon 1,028]

3 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Where did you get this from @Hawk the Demon?

See the first line.

[titan_uranus 25,028]

3 minutes ago, Hawk the Demon said:

See the first line.

Yes, I mean the affidavit itself. Is it publicly available?

[Hawk the Demon 1,028]

You can request it.

[Ollie fan 3,468]

3 minutes ago, Hawk the Demon said:

You can request it.

Can you request the affidavits in reply? There may be two sides to this.. There usually are

[Mach5 4,768]

On 06/09/2024 at 17:01, Demon17 said:

Perts KPI's

membership growth - tick

Financial stability- tick

On-field growth and performance- Flag and 3 top 4 finishes.

he should go because??

He can't get out and kick the ball for the team.

Look at his role objectively.

I guess this is the prevailing attitude that keeps people like Pert in a job, while others scratch their heads.

[Mach5 4,768]

1 hour ago, Hawk the Demon said:

And this is how Mr Pert acts towards a member if you step out of line (from Lawrence's deposition in the recent Federal Court case):

On 22 November 2022 at 12:30pm, I met with Mr Pert for a coffee at his request.
During our meeting Mr Pert said words to the effect that:
(a) MFC had incurred costs of some $500,000 in the last two years as a result of
my actions in running in the 2020/21 and 2021/22 elections, and a separate
proceeding in the Supreme Court of Victoria (in which I successfully obtained
access to the register of members); and
(b) there would be many ripple effects if I continued to agitate governance issues,
such as player sponsorships (for example, my platinum sponsorship of Kade
Chandler) no longer being offered to me, and my donations (such as my
Club 11 donation for the development of Gosch’s Paddock) no longer being
accepted by MFC.

On or around 5 December 2022, I spoke to ....... who was coordinator of the
Inner Sanctum and Player Sponsors, over the telephone. ...... informed me
that I would not be offered the opportunity to renew my platinum player sponsorship
of Kade Chandler in 2023.

Unsurprisingly sounds like bully tactics to drive the incumbents agenda & maintain the status quo, i.e. showing blatant disregard if not contempt for the best interests of the members.

Which is consistent with my own experience.

Edited September 8 by Mach5

[Hawk the Demon 1,028]

30 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Can you request the affidavits in reply? There may be two sides to this.. There usually are

Don't believe it was disputed. Rennick gave evidence on behalf of the Club.

[Sir Why You Little 37,118]

1 hour ago, Hawk the Demon said:

And this is how Mr Pert acts towards a member if you step out of line (from Lawrence's deposition in the recent Federal Court case):

On 22 November 2022 at 12:30pm, I met with Mr Pert for a coffee at his request.
During our meeting Mr Pert said words to the effect that:
(a) MFC had incurred costs of some $500,000 in the last two years as a result of
my actions in running in the 2020/21 and 2021/22 elections, and a separate
proceeding in the Supreme Court of Victoria (in which I successfully obtained
access to the register of members); and
(b) there would be many ripple effects if I continued to agitate governance issues,
such as player sponsorships (for example, my platinum sponsorship of Kade
Chandler) no longer being offered to me, and my donations (such as my
Club 11 donation for the development of Gosch’s Paddock) no longer being
accepted by MFC.

On or around 5 December 2022, I spoke to ....... who was coordinator of the
Inner Sanctum and Player Sponsors, over the telephone. ...... informed me
that I would not be offered the opportunity to renew my platinum player sponsorship
of Kade Chandler in 2023.

What a shocking waste of Money…

[Mach5 4,768]

12 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

What a shocking waste of Money…

If the board/club acted like an organisation who had no alterior motive & nothing to hide, then the costs wouldn’t have been incurred.

[Sir Why You Little 37,118]

6 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

If the board/club acted like an organisation who had no alterior motive & nothing to hide, then the costs wouldn’t have been incurred.

I agree, there is Fault on both sides 

That is a wage for extra staff in the Football Department 

The whole thing stinks

[Demon Disciple 12,256]

15 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I agree, there is Fault on both sides 

That is a wage for extra staff in the Football Department 

The whole thing stinks

Yep, clearly individuals putting themselves ahead of the club’s best interests. 

Maybe it’s time to install Max as Pres, CEO, GM of Football, Coach & Captain

[Demon17 5,191]

6 hours ago, Loose Men Everywhere said:

After Collingwood's latest blow up where are all the media comments about their 'culture'?

Spot on. Media don't bite the hand that feeds them

[KozzyCan 764]

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

If the board/club acted like an organisation who had no alterior motive & nothing to hide, then the costs wouldn’t have been incurred.

I get the feeling Pert is exaggerating a bit there. Why is he guilt tripping a member for running for election and putting the costs to the club on his head?

[Demon17 5,191]

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

I guess this is the prevailing attitude that keeps people like Pert in a job, while others scratch their heads.

Just pointing out some corporate kpi's absolutely in Perts hidomain.

The broader issues in the club have many contributors.

Ever wondered why the Dee's doctor resigned during this year's pre season in November 2023.?

Being brilliant in her field ( just ask Steven May) she was snapped up elsewhere. Our huge loss.

Why? That's one for pert to have influence over I would have thought.

[H_T 3,049]

On 07/09/2024 at 08:18, BDA said:

I think Brad Green will sponsor the review but an external consultant will be engaged to undertake the work and deliver a report.

It needs to be an independent external review or serious issues swept under the rug will re-appear in 2025. Count on it.

Edited September 8 by H_T

[Adam The God 30,403]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I agree, there is Fault on both sides 

That is a wage for extra staff in the Football Department 

The whole thing stinks

Is there fault on both sides?

[Sir Why You Little 37,118]

2 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Is there fault on both sides?

Yes i think there is, most definitely 

[Adam The God 30,403]

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes i think there is, most definitely 

Disagree, but we'll leave it at that.