Pert and Roffey - The Review Thread

[layzie 32,686]

3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Everyone who was crying out to hear from her, you got your wish. 

Unbelievable hey. Full of [censored] these people.

Edited August 29 by layzie

[DeesignerAU 309]

On 27/08/2024 at 16:28, KozzyCan said:

I said it last week but that SEN interview before the gold coast game Pert gave was awful. Nothing he said sounded sincere or substantive. Just a bunch of excuses, spin and complaints about all the things we've had to deal with that can't be controlled by a CEO.

Mate, if you can't take control maybe let someone do the job who can.

Off the topic a little - is KozzyCan a reference to Ozzie can… Daryl can.. Ozzie can??

 

[Doug Reemer 1,154]

Forgive my tardiness in the US.

Just quietly, how the hell has Roffey not spoken to the Petracca family? That is just straight up incompetence!

Say what you want about him, Eddie McGuire would have been sleeping day and night at the hospital and doing everything in his power to help the equivalent say if Buckley was in Tracc’s situation. 

[Magnus 45]

Hmmmm, rough interview that I don’t think she was properly prepared for (and Whately did machine gun the questions a bit). Some of the soundbites I would have wanted to hear from the club president:

• The leadership group is aligned on our goal of XXX (eg what are they all working towards together - the “North Star” eg “giving our loyal members a MCC grand final within 5years time” etc.
• “If Trac goes, I will” (really odd she has not met with him or the family, one of our more important assets)
• “We are really proud of the team and our emerging talent, we do acknowledge we have some list gaps that we are actively trying to fill in the off season and we are looking forward to the 2025 season”
• “There is a bit of external noise to the club at the moment - it is unfortunate - but we have to defend the red & blue”
• “Finally to our fans, we are the oldest football club in the world & I personally feel we have let them down over the last 18m - you deserve better - and you will get it” (eg some humility)

Etc etc. Unfortunately she came across distant to the workings of the club and the key concerns of the members - not what I wanted to hear.

[Kent 2,852]

16 hours ago, SFebes said:

I think people need to calm the farm a bit.

Roffey spoke poorly & should resign, but getting rid of her does not solve club culture, we won't start playing electric football again, she isn't responsible for our terrible recruiting, nor off field antics of players, Petracca won't stay if she leaves either, we have bigger issues throughout. It doesn't just end with her gone, we need a whole club clean out/direction and buy in. 

It was only last week the fan club on here was saying all ok, nothing wrong! Anybody who had an alternative view was castigated

Welcome to reality fan club members

[KozzyCan 289]

6 hours ago, DeesignerAU said:

Off the topic a little - is KozzyCan a reference to Ozzie can… Daryl can.. Ozzie can??

 

Was more thinking of this:

 

[Pulp Fritschon 690]

Never been a fan. Always looked a follow the leader appointment to me. 
 

 

[dazzledavey36 52,641]

 

[The Jackson FIX 2,661]

20 hours ago, DeesignerAU said:

Pert is hiding... in Noosa

Were the players told?

[IRW 1,377]

15 minutes ago, Kent said:

It was only last week the fan club on here was saying all ok, nothing wrong! Anybody who had an alternative view was castigated

Welcome to reality fan club members

I blame Maynard.

Next thing you know Scully will say he's going.

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8 hours ago, Mach5 said:

In my experience this describes her perfectly and I’ve heard similar disdain directly from her mouth about Casey and its residents. I find it unfathomable that she can be so careless with her words.

I’ve spotted her shopping at Yarraville Coles - if she’s elitist, she’s not doing a great job of it.

[BLWNBA 680]

49 minutes ago, Kent said:

It was only last week the fan club on here was saying all ok, nothing wrong! Anybody who had an alternative view was castigated

Welcome to reality fan club members

One of the best and most accurate accounts on here; and some of them still have their head in the sand! 

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18 hours ago, Demonland said:

Full Show. Calls from 1 hr 17 min 23 secs

 

Listening to the interview was bad enough. As for the calls, it’s kind of like looking at a bad car crash, you know you shouldn’t but you do it anyway. Although on this occasion I’ll spare myself. 

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42 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Can you PM me the article

[Moonshadow 17,456]

13 hours ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I'm not sure, sorry. I'm not an insider or anything of the like by any stretch at all and don't know about the ins and outs of the negotiations or who has the say. I had just had it told to me that the parties involved didn't wish to deal with Roffey. I didn't rush off to tell people that, but once I saw a couple of others here mentioning similar things I thought I would back it up, at least for my small part.

It certainly seems things are as messy, if not worse, with the MRC board as it stands.

Careful, you'll be shouted down for not divulging your sources, who would be dissed even if you did!

BTW, your posting style seems very familiar to me. Have you been on here before? 

[KozzyCan 289]

9 hours ago, layzie said:

Unbelievable hey. Full of [censored] these people.

What are you trying to say here? Yes, people wanted the president to speak. Yes, people wanted to see how invested she is in the club and get some reassurance over how we are dealing with the current challenges being faced. When she turned up to that interview woefully under-prepared and completely out of touch it was an embarrassment and showed she's not up to it.

What people actually want to see is competent leadership.

[Demonland 70,163]

 

[layzie 32,686]

12 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

What are you trying to say here? Yes, people wanted the president to speak. Yes, people wanted to see how invested she is in the club and get some reassurance over how we are dealing with the current challenges being faced. When she turned up to that interview woefully under-prepared and completely out of touch it was an embarrassment and showed she's not up to it.

What people actually want to see is competent leadership.

Point taken.

Would you care to explain point for point how you would have liked that interview to go? We've heard  it was bad, lacked leadership, wasn't up to it. Right now you're speaking through an echochamber. The view from the cheap seats isn't bad but let's get some constuctive feedback on this. 

Tell us all exactly what you would like that have heard our president say on a morning talkback radio program, what would have reassured you in a time of severe turbulence or even crisis, how should she have prepared better, what does competent leadership look like in a situation as unique as this one?

The floor is yours. 

Edited August 29 by layzie

[Ted Lasso 18,720]

3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Can we answer neither? 

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[BLWNBA 680]

7 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

What are you trying to say here? Yes, people wanted the president to speak. Yes, people wanted to see how invested she is in the club and get some reassurance over how we are dealing with the current challenges being faced. When she turned up to that interview woefully under-prepared and completely out of touch it was an embarrassment and showed she's not up to it.

What people actually want to see is competent leadership.

Very well said, the amount of people that are comfortable legitimising her effort under the guise "well, this is what you asked for" is astounding. I am unable to conceivably understand how people can defend her efforts (or realistically, lack thereof) yesterday and the old mantra of "what did you expect her to say?". 

It is not unreasonable at all, that people expect their President to be a competent media performer. One can accept that such an interview would not, necessarily, delve completely into the vault. But to wheel out that nonsense yesterday is an indictment on the current Club and all members. The MFC have refused to accept any sort of responsibility for the issues which have emerged over the past three seasons; rather, they have preferred to attempt to hide all of the skeletons and trout out corporate speak regarding 'culture', 'visions' and a 'one mission' approach. Had the Club dealt with some of the issues in an authentic and genuine manner, I would suspect we're not in the position we're now in. Own the mistakes, genuinely and authentically learn from them, and then look to create best practice out of it. This isn't to say that mistakes will not - or should not be made; mistakes and mismanagement occurs. But it becomes an issue when it is repetitive, not learned from and ignored. 

I truly think that is now untenable for Roffey to continue in her role, however, the board is stacked in her favour. I would express similar sentiments regarding Pert regarding the nature of his tenure. 

There are ruminations that several ex-players are being courted for a potential board challenge; whether this comes to fruition, remains to be seen. But change is clearly needed from the top down and it is needed now. 

[old55 22,727]

13 hours ago, Cosmic Baby said:

Love Roffey. We are so lucky to have a strong and brave leader in Kate. 

Thought her interview today was FANTASTIC. 

Go Dees!

Pretty sure Kate agrees with you ...

[KozzyCan 289]

38 minutes ago, layzie said:

Point taken.

Would you care to point for point how you would have liked that interview to go? We've heard  it was bad, lacked leadership, wasn't up to it. Right now you're speaking through an echochamber. The view from the cheap seats isn't bad but let's get some constuctive feedback on this. 

Tell us all exactly what you would like that have heard our president say on a morning talkback radio program, what would have reassured you in a time of severe turbulence or even crisis, how should she have prepared better, what does competent leadership look like in a situation as unique as this one?

The floor is yours. 

I think it was certainly a tough interview to get right but only because of everything that came before it. If one of Petracca's issues with the club is that he felt he was abandoned after his injury and the president has not spoken to him or his family then there's not much that can be said for it.

But if it was just that then it could have been remedied. She could have admitted fault in that area and promised to do better. Or she could have laid out a real plan for how we're going to overcome these issues. At the moment everything out of the club has been handwaving, excuses and passing the buck.

Ultimately the fact that we've gotten to this point is the bigger problem than the interview itself.

Edited August 29 by KozzyCan

[FreedFromDesire 563]

40 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Careful, you'll be shouted down for not divulging your sources, who would be dissed even if you did!

BTW, your posting style seems very familiar to me. Have you been on here before? 

Oh, I don't have 'sources', I'll just clarify that. I don't claim to be someone who knows things. There does seem to be a level of consistency now across some of the topics around this matter.

I've been a long time reader of Demonland, certainly a fan of the posters here who seem to get the actual good inside information. I do feel I may have brought a curse as I joined not long before the current disaster began.

[MoeSyzlak 650]

9 hours ago, layzie said:

Unbelievable hey. Full of [censored] these people.

Yeah crazy that the members expect competent, informed and prepared leadership.