2 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Yep, that was the footsteps one. It was from a cute but good kick from Kozzy. He needed to go and didn't. I was disappointed. Needs to get that out of his game.

Easy to say that from the comfort of the stand though.

I think the one handers are all footsteps ones.

Yes, there are some things for him to work on. There were some hospital kicks too when they didn't need to be and thankfully didn't hurt us much.

However, his ability to a) win a lot of the ball, b) make good decisions, c) win contested ball and d) find the goals has been seriously impressive. He made Rioli who is no slouch look absolutely pathetic in a 1-1 last night, such is the kid's strength. For all the moaning about his lack of pace on here, he still doesn't get caught much. He has tricks.

Really loving the picks of Langford and Lindsay so far. We don't need to wait around to find out if they'll be good players. They already are good players, meaningfully impacting games. And in different ways to each other. I'd have them slightly ahead of the Windsor/Tholstrup combo who are also tracking well (what happened to Leb's kicking though...)

For all the discussion around lack of pace, according to the AFL app he had the top speed of any Melbourne player last night.

I don't know how good those stats are, but my observations have been that it's his first few steps that are slow but once he has some space his coasting speed is ok. He also seems to have a knack for running angles in those first few steps that gives him more space.

3 minutes ago, deanox said:

For all the discussion around lack of pace, according to the AFL app he had the top speed of any Melbourne player last night.

I don't know how good those stats are, but my observations have been that it's his first few steps that are slow but once he has some space his coasting speed is ok. He also seems to have a knack for running angles in those first few steps that gives him more space.

He's an interesting choice for a winger at the moment. He's strong in the contest, good in the air and a beautiful kick. Handy traits for a winger.

Edited Friday at 03:292 days by Adam The God

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

He's an interesting choice for a winger at the moment. He's strong in the contest, good in the air and a beautiful kick. Handy traits for a winger.

similar to the role blake acres has been playing for the baggers

1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

similar to the role blake acres has been playing for the baggers

Yep, true, except Arces likes to torch the ball a bit.

1 hour ago, deanox said:

For all the discussion around lack of pace, according to the AFL app he had the top speed of any Melbourne player last night.

I don't know how good those stats are, but my observations have been that it's his first few steps that are slow but once he has some space his coasting speed is ok. He also seems to have a knack for running angles in those first few steps that gives him more space.

Agree deanox Langford, Tholstrup and Trainor all recorded equal 2nd fastest time of 33.1 km/hr so he and Kolt are no slouch in the pace department, also skill, courage, footy IQ and a booming kick make him my next favourite player.👍😁

2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Yep, that was the footsteps one. It was from a cute but good kick from Kozzy. He needed to go and didn't. I was disappointed. Needs to get that out of his game.

Easy to say that from the comfort of the stand though.

That's an absurd criticism of a 5 gamer.

4 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Yep, that was the footsteps one. It was from a cute but good kick from Kozzy. He needed to go and didn't. I was disappointed. Needs to get that out of his game.

Easy to say that from the comfort of the stand though.

He is playing his what 5th game? 1st night game at the G?

He is in the top 5 best 18 year olds I have seen at the club.

17 minutes ago, rpfc said:

He is playing his what 5th game? 1st night game at the G?

He is in the top 5 best 18 year olds I have seen at the club.

He looks an absolute gun. Love him. That's not the point.

3 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

He looks an absolute gun. Love him. That's not the point.

Well you did accuse him of hearing footsteps.

17 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Well you did accuse him of hearing footsteps.

It was right in front me. He put a tentative hand out because he thought he wad going to be smashed. Instead, the chain broke down in a dangerous position.

Not quite sure why you think it's outrageous to expect that sort of commitment in the modern game. Players are expected to go all the time. He didn't, hopefully next time he does.

Edited Friday at 07:352 days by Adam The God

On 23/04/2025 at 17:13, binman said:

At the risk of being positive about a pies player, Nick Daicosis not predominately an outside player. He is as every bit as good an inside mid as Bont or Ablett. Kid is tough AND skilled. He's already one of the best players ive seen - and he's only just begun his career.

Just torched the Dons and helped Collingwood to 3 goals in a few minutes with the game on the line in the 3rd. In the wet.

He’s no Jack Viney but he doesn’t need to be; he’s pure silk and wins more than enough of his own ball.

People who equate his slight frame with a soft attitude are mistaken. Those who criticise him for not taking enough contested marks - lol.

Edited yesterday at 00:351 day by Grapeviney

11 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

It was right in front me. He put a tentative hand out because he thought he wad going to be smashed. Instead, the chain broke down in a dangerous position.

Not quite sure why you think it's outrageous to expect that sort of commitment in the modern game. Players are expected to go all the time. He didn't, hopefully next time he does.

Questioning the courage of an 18 year old who's performing at such a high level is ridiculous. Every person who has ever played the game has done it. He's gone back with the flight on several occasions to mark and make spoils yet you pick this out. If you want to see what shirking looks like take a look at Docherty's last month.

14 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Questioning the courage of an 18 year old who's performing at such a high level is ridiculous. Every person who has ever played the game has done it. He's gone back with the flight on several occasions to mark and make spoils yet you pick this out. If you want to see what shirking looks like take a look at Docherty's last month.

Christ nobody’s saying he’s Cale Morton or that he won’t be a terrific player.

He’ll learn. Constructive criticism is OK!

5 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Yep, that was the footsteps one. It was from a cute but good kick from Kozzy. He needed to go and didn't. I was disappointed. Needs to get that out of his game.

Easy to say that from the comfort of the stand though.

You make it sound like its a pattern of behaviour creeping into his game when it's not. It's a one off incident in his 6 game career.

Plenty of times in his short career he's thrown himself into contests without hesitation.

He's fine.

40 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Questioning the courage of an 18 year old who's performing at such a high level is ridiculous. Every person who has ever played the game has done it. He's gone back with the flight on several occasions to mark and make spoils yet you pick this out. If you want to see what shirking looks like take a look at Docherty's last month.

I said he needs to get it out of his game. I didn't say he wouldn't...

17 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

I said he needs to get it out of his game. I didn't say he wouldn't...

Some sensitive Nancy’s on DL. They need to get that out of their tude……

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

I said he needs to get it out of his game. I didn't say he wouldn't...

That's the thing though, he doesn't, from time to time every player in the league, bar none, takes a short step to avoid contact. It's instinct. Harvey will likely do it from time to time but he'll still end up one of our sides best players. Anyway it's a pointless argument, you won't admit you're wrong.

Edited Friday at 10:242 days by Roost it far

2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

It was right in front me. He put a tentative hand out because he thought he wad going to be smashed. Instead, the chain broke down in a dangerous position.

Not quite sure why you think it's outrageous to expect that sort of commitment in the modern game. Players are expected to go all the time. He didn't, hopefully next time he does.

Are we allowed to mention Trac’s one?

Didn’t even go one handed. That’s far more of an issue than Langford finding his way in season 1 and being cautious.

Luke Hodge commented and then backed off saying it is allowed after his injuries.

Trac is absolutely avoiding body contact - very different mindset to Viney who got polaxed by a short hospital kick

5 minutes ago, BW511 said:

Are we allowed to mention Trac’s one?

Didn’t even go one handed. That’s far more of an issue than Langford finding his way in season 1 and being cautious.

Luke Hodge commented and then backed off saying it is allowed after his injuries.

Trac is absolutely avoiding body contact - very different mindset to Viney who got polaxed by a short hospital kick

We are. There were a few of those TBH last night. Trac did just suffer a life threatening condition to that part of his body though, and Nankervis got him with one in that exact area just before half time. Max got into Nankervis immediately afterwards. It was right in front of the MCC on the centre-wing boundary.

If I were Trac I'm not sure I could ever go at a contest the same way again.

So I get the human, mental element, of course I do. I purely frame my observations around what modern teams expect.

Edited Friday at 10:472 days by Adam The God

34 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

We are. There were a few of those TBH last night. Trac did just suffer a life threatening condition to that part of his body though, and Nankervis got him with one in that exact area just before half time. Max got into Nankervis immediately afterwards. It was right in front of the MCC on the centre-wing boundary.

If I were Trac I'm not sure I could ever go at a contest the same way again.

So I get the human, mental element, of course I do. I purely frame my observations around what modern teams expect.

A modern team doesn’t expect it 100% of the time. It’s outdated rubbish. There are always going to be players taking short steps from time to time. I’ve seen Viney think twice. If it’s the incident I think Langford still ended up with the ball? Ex players are suffering the effects of concussion yet you expect an 18 year old to never flinch. I’d be very surprised if players weren’t told to short step from time to time. It’s the smart play.

Meh. He is fine. Better than that, he is an elite talent playing AFL for us.

I am reliably informed that the club is on him about other tendencies which need tweaking. Courage or hardness isn’t one of them.

He is extremely confident in his abilities, sometimes to a fault. Tidying up his disposal in close is another area they want him to take a bit more time.

Consider his youth and inexperience and how effective he is in a range of roles, just be happy that he plays for us.

Wait until he leans up, gets fitter and gets another 20 games under his belt and he’ll be a great player.

If only Kolt and Jefferson had shown as much in their 1st season at the club.

Peanut Posters night tonight.

What you can't say to a players face, you don't say it at all.

I tried it once and regretted it with a perforated ear drum.

3 hours ago, BW511 said:

Are we allowed to mention Trac’s one?

Didn’t even go one handed. That’s far more of an issue than Langford finding his way in season 1 and being cautious.

Luke Hodge commented and then backed off saying it is allowed after his injuries.

Trac is absolutely avoiding body contact - very different mindset to Viney who got polaxed by a short hospital kick

This fan base would rather see trac going back against the flight, get poleaxed and spend the remainder of the year on the side line? No need for moronic decisions.

I for one am glad that trac is playing next week instead of nursing an another broken rib. The season still has 18 weeks