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1 hour ago, Demonsterative said:

He could take the boys out for a few dozen beers after training… Men who drink together play together…

I used to see the Great Man regularly at the Gladstone park hotel  in 73/74 in the evening, most likely after training with 1/2 a dozen or so of his North players.   

 

Ultimately the buck stops with Goodwin.

If he can't get his head around the need to move the ball more quickly then its just deckchairs on the titanic.

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46 minutes ago, Colm said:

Not a bad shout. Even if it was just to work with our key forwards. We have Petty, JVR, Turner and Jeffo who all seem to have talent but are very green. If we could get them all working well individually and as a group it would be massive for us going forward( no pun intended).

Nick or Jack Riewoldt would be my targets.  Jack was a sole key fwd in an average forward line that won a flag, then evolved his game to incorporate another key fwd to join him and Dusty(Petracca).  He is a great fit.

Nick is apparently coming back to Aus soon and he has a wealth of knowledge on work ethic and forward craft.

Id be happy with either or 

 
1 hour ago, Ollie fan said:

I understand that, but our forward line has been incredibly static, particularly when there is a holdup at wing/HB - They don't block/ create space/do multiple leads. I have defended players and coaches on this site many times but I don't see Stafford as the right guy.

I agree they don’t do those things, but the plan is NOT to do those things…. I don’t agree with that as a plan but he is coaching to plan is my argument.  
 

I’m not close enough to it to understand if he is capable of coaching to a different plan but the fact he is one of few out of contract will probably mean he is sacrificed year-end regardless.

4 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

Nick or Jack Riewoldt would be my targets.  Jack was a sole key fwd in an average forward line that won a flag, then evolved his game to incorporate another key fwd to join him and Dusty(Petracca).  He is a great fit.

Nick is apparently coming back to Aus soon and he has a wealth of knowledge on work ethic and forward craft.

Id be happy with either or 

Nick Reiwoldt was a great player but I would not want to see his arrogance anywhere near our club.  If we were going to target recently retired players than Selwood would be number 1 and Cotchin number 2.  On the experienced side I’d move heaven and earth to get Leppa out of the Pies 

 

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10 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Nick Reiwoldt was a great player but I would not want to see his arrogance anywhere near our club.  If we were going to target recently retired players than Selwood would be number 1 and Cotchin number 2.  On the experienced side I’d move heaven and earth to get Leppa out of the Pies 

 

not sure any of them are good targets as forward coaches

Just now, Travy14 said:

not sure any of them are good targets as forward coaches

The forward takes care of itself if the midfield is humming 

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1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

The forward takes care of itself if the midfield is humming 

no, that was fine in 2021 when we had Brown, TMac and Fritta.  We now have a fwd line of JVR, Jefferson and Kentfield.  These kids need to be taught forwards craft.

Talent alone does not get you there

 
32 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

Nick or Jack Riewoldt would be my targets.  Jack was a sole key fwd in an average forward line that won a flag, then evolved his game to incorporate another key fwd to join him and Dusty(Petracca).  He is a great fit.

Nick is apparently coming back to Aus soon and he has a wealth of knowledge on work ethic and forward craft.

Id be happy with either or 

Don’t mind the idea of Jack. He seems to be pretty involved with getting Tassie team up and running and that will probably start taking up more of his time. But he could maybe come in and work with our key forwards during preseason while he has no TV commitments. 
 

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17 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

 

100% the way we move the ball doesn't help the forwardline at all but the amount of times I see our forwards either standing completely still and waiting for the ball to land on their head OR all running back into the goal square rather than spreading and creating options does my head in.

Dunstall, Riewoldt, Brereton all will tell you figure 8 running and why but agree we all stand still.


10 hours ago, demoniac said:

Ultimately the buck stops with Goodwin.

If he can't get his head around the need to move the ball more quickly then its just deckchairs on the titanic.

So just fill the coaches box with crash test dummies next to Goodwin?

12 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Not sure that is Stafford’s fault - Goodwin’s game plan is to create repeat contest deep-ish in F50, not attempt to create space.  

Hnmm so Goodwin ??? Hnmmm hnmmmm and Hnmmm!

Love the armchair coaches on this site: they all know more about coaching a Premiership side than the current coach. Sure, times need a'changing, and I agree that Stafford seemed to be hijacked into a job he had no qualifications for - I mean, he was a great Ruckman, not a Forward - but, give the coaching staff a break from your congregated superior knowledge....


11 hours ago, Travy14 said:

Nick or Jack Riewoldt would be my targets.  Jack was a sole key fwd in an average forward line that won a flag, then evolved his game to incorporate another key fwd to join him and Dusty(Petracca).  He is a great fit.

Nick is apparently coming back to Aus soon and he has a wealth of knowledge on work ethic and forward craft.

Id be happy with either or 

Nick will stay in the media. Better money and less responsibility. Jack will hang out for a Tassie role if he’s interested in the footy side of things.

5 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

Yeah, cos Greg Stafford is the problem around here 

Stop pretending you are my Doppelganger. Get the Un outta here...( A secret joke, a German joke, no laughing matter.)

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On 16/08/2024 at 19:17, Gawndy the Great said:

Nick will stay in the media. Better money and less responsibility. Jack will hang out for a Tassie role if he’s interested in the footy side of things.

I agree, but I hope we are asking the question

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