Andrew McQualter - Appointed coach of the West Coast Eagles

[demon3165 2,665]

12 minutes ago, djr said:

The harsh criticism by Jeff White during one of the games put McQualter in the spotlight, where he pointed out the incorrect positioning of our mids at centre bounces. I assume that would have McQ responsibility. 

In white's opinion, so he's right and McQualters wrong? so look at the truth Gawn has lost his ability to be a good tap ruckman but the best ruckman around the ground by a street, another factor you have 2 club leaders in the midfield and they cannot make corrections to set-ups come on you are clutching at straws.

Edited September 2 by demon3165

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22 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Steven King?

 

Jeez, that’s a real kick in the teeth!

- Jeff White

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

So they've pinpointed their man in 3 different reports today, only problem is its a different man in all of them..

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3 minutes ago, layzie said:

So they've pinpointed their man in 3 different reports today, only problem is its a different man in all of them..

Larry, Curly or Mo?

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1 hour ago, rpfc said:

Steven King?

 

Jeez, that’s a real kick in the teeth!

- Jeff White

Steven King?

 

Lucky not to break his leg.

- some geelong crack-head

Edited September 4 by Nascent

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On 02/09/2024 at 21:57, demon3165 said:

I am just amazed at the lack of people understanding football, people blaming McQualter for the midfield problems that has been a problem for three years, so he can only coach to the gameplan that was in trouble three years ago, one paced midfield, lack of kicking skills lack of players who are so robotic they lack football awareness no forward line but gee that's his problem, people seem to forget he was there during the tigers reign, how about people look at the root cause before you try and blame one man.

Yes but isn't it HIS call how to set up??

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On 15/08/2024 at 19:10, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Was understood to be extremely highly rated when we appointed him last year.

Josh Gabelich on SEN just doubled down on this and says he’s still incredibly highly rated within the industry.

So if he’s not the problem, who is?

Mark Neeld was highly rated by Mick Malthouse.

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6 minutes ago, sydneydee said:

Can you dm me as well? 

Add me to the DM list as well.

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38 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Mark Neeld was highly rated by Mick Malthouse.

As a line Coach not the Senior one.

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9 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

It is likely - I agree. Purely on the basis that Trae had the spotlight for near 2 weeks and I’m sure the rat bag journos would have been looking for anything. 

It’s been around for a good 12 months. If it was true it would have exploded by now. 
Let’s stop giving it airtime 

[demon3165 2,665]

6 hours ago, picket fence said:

Yes but isn't it HIS call how to set up??

Yes and no line coach's only coach to the game plan that Goodwin wants and we played a game style of contest to contest down the line style in 21, 22,23 and 24 mcqualter came fron the tigers who played move it forward at all costs and had the players to do that, we tried to change but everyone found out we didn’t have the pace, ball skills or football awareness to play it so we went back to what they knew.

As for game day coaching and set-ups yes that falls on him and unfortunately Gawn is not a top grade tap ruckman anymore he's the best at around the ground by a country mile but his inability to jump at ball ups and throw ins doesn't help the midfield but by the same token the midfield should be able to change their positions when things go wrong plus the rules around runners for 2024, allowing them to only deliver messages four times per quarter, plus after every goal hasn’t helped.

Will be interested in seeing who they draft and how they go about designing a gameplan moving forward.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

 

As for game day coaching and set-ups yes that falls on him and unfortunately Gawn is not a top grade tap ruckman anymore he's the best at around the ground by a country mile but his inability to jump at ball ups and throw ins doesn't help the midfield but by the same token the midfield should be able to change their positions when things go wrong plus the rules around runners for 2024, allowing them to only deliver messages four times per quarter, plus after every goal hasn’t helped.

 

And if we can see from the outside that the setups are not effective, because of player placement, and which side of the opposition they are standing, then why couldn't McQualter?  ...and that is what a midfield coach should be coaching, not just on matchday, so that no matter who is in the centre square or around the pack, they know where to stand and go. 

That wouldn't and didn't ever happen under Yze.

And now he has to rebuild a midfield at Richmond because there is no Cotchin, Edwards, Martin and Baker to work with.

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1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:

And if we can see from the outside that the setups are not effective, because of player placement, and which side of the opposition they are standing, then why couldn't McQualter?  ...and that is what a midfield coach should be coaching, not just on matchday, so that no matter who is in the centre square or around the pack, they know where to stand and go. 

That wouldn't and didn't ever happen under Yze.

And now he has to rebuild a midfield at Richmond because there is no Cotchin, Edwards, Martin and Baker to work with.

Every game starts with how you want to set up first, so you are saying that the 2 main midfielders in Gawn and Viney cannot change it when things go wrong? Remember you only have 4 times to send a runner out a quarter and after goals but the players would would have the ability to be able to change it don't put it all on McQualter remember he was in charge of the midfield at Richmond when their midfield was flying so he has credits in the bank for that.

You also seem to forget we had the same problems with Yze and he wanted to play a different game style for the midfield when he was there but he couldn't because of the gameplan, our midfield is one paced, lack foot skills, lack of decision making ability they are grunt players and until they change that we will struggle next year McQualter needs cattle to work with so to speak.

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15 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Every game starts with how you want to set up first, so you are saying that the 2 main midfielders in Gawn and Viney cannot change it when things go wrong? Remember you only have 4 times to send a runner out a quarter and after goals but the players would would have the ability to be able to change it don't put it all on McQualter remember he was in charge of the midfield at Richmond when their midfield was flying so he has credits in the bank for that.

You also seem to forget we had the same problems with Yze and he wanted to play a different game style for the midfield when he was there but he couldn't because of the gameplan, our midfield is one paced, lack foot skills, lack of decision making ability they are grunt players and until they change that we will struggle next year McQualter needs cattle to work with so to speak.

Yes i agree. It is too early to judge McQualter. Goody needs to restructure his gameplans which have become too defensive 

Since the 6-6-6 rule, defence has been pulled back a few %
Teams are attacking more

even Ross Lyon is playing a more attacking style than Goody!!

He must adapt 

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1 hour ago, demon3165 said:

Every game starts with how you want to set up first, so you are saying that the 2 main midfielders in Gawn and Viney cannot change it when things go wrong? Remember you only have 4 times to send a runner out a quarter and after goals but the players would would have the ability to be able to change it don't put it all on McQualter remember he was in charge of the midfield at Richmond when their midfield was flying so he has credits in the bank for that.

You also seem to forget we had the same problems with Yze and he wanted to play a different game style for the midfield when he was there but he couldn't because of the gameplan, our midfield is one paced, lack foot skills, lack of decision making ability they are grunt players and until they change that we will struggle next year McQualter needs cattle to work with so to speak.

You are talking absolute drivel. Richmond’s midfield was never flying. Even during their golden era their supporters used to lament the fact that they got annihilated at clearance every week, which is why they brought in Taranto and Hopper in an attempt to rectify that.

You’re also talking as if our midfield is a group of plodders which is clearly absurd - it’s the best group we’ve had in the club’s history.
 

People’s issues with the midfield this year is largely down to the structures around stoppages. It’s incredibly evident when you’re at the games how nonsensical and reactive our starting positions are. That’s down to the midfield coach. In the game against Freo they won the first EIGHTEEN clearances of the game. There is no excuse for that. None. That is abysmal coaching.

The bottom line is a previous strength of our game has become a glaring weakness in the space of a season since McQualter took over the reins. 

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1 minute ago, Dee Boys said:

You are talking absolute drivel. Richmond’s midfield was never flying. Even during their golden era their supporters used to lament the fact that they got annihilated at clearance every week, which is why they brought in Taranto and Hopper in an attempt to rectify that.

You’re also talking as if our midfield is a group of plodders which is clearly absurd - it’s the best group we’ve had in the club’s history.
 

People’s issues with the midfield this year is largely down to the structures around stoppages. It’s incredibly evident when you’re at the games how nonsensical and reactive our starting positions are. That’s down to the midfield coach. In the game against Freo they won the first EIGHTEEN clearances of the game. There is no excuse for that. None. That is abysmal coaching.

The bottom line is a previous strength of our game has become a glaring weakness in the space of a season since McQualter took over the reins. 

Well you clearly no nothing about football so I will leave it at that...

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3 hours ago, demon3165 said:

Yes and no line coach's only coach to the game plan that Goodwin wants and we played a game style of contest to contest down the line style in 21, 22,23 and 24 mcqualter came fron the tigers who played move it forward at all costs and had the players to do that, we tried to change but everyone found out we didn’t have the pace, ball skills or football awareness to play it so we went back to what they knew.

As for game day coaching and set-ups yes that falls on him and unfortunately Gawn is not a top grade tap ruckman anymore he's the best at around the ground by a country mile but his inability to jump at ball ups and throw ins doesn't help the midfield but by the same token the midfield should be able to change their positions when things go wrong plus the rules around runners for 2024, allowing them to only deliver messages four times per quarter, plus after every goal hasn’t helped.

Will be interested in seeing who they draft and how they go about designing a gameplan moving forward.

 

 

Which is WHY we should have kept Grundy... What a monumental Balls up that was!!

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14 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Well you clearly no nothing about football so I will leave it at that...

The Dunning Kruger curve in full effect.

”McQualter can’t be blamed, he needs some cattle to work with” as if the blokes under his tutelage don’t have FOURTEEN All-Australians between them.

But yes, let’s leave it at that.

Edited September 5 by Dee Boys

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1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes i agree. It is too early to judge McQualter. Goody needs to restructure his gameplans which have become too defensive 

Since the 6-6-6 rule, defence has been pulled back a few %
Teams are attacking more

even Ross Lyon is playing a more attacking style than Goody!!

He must adapt 

If your not part of the solution u are part of the problem.. Goodwin needs to GO Massively disappionting coaching performance this year and our insipid non finals winning shhheitfest of 22/23 means his message and game plan is SHOT. Mark my words he should go now but will be replaced half way through next year. MARK MY WORDS

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17 minutes ago, picket fence said:

If your not part of the solution u are part of the problem.. Goodwin needs to GO Massively disappionting coaching performance this year and our insipid non finals winning shhheitfest of 22/23 means his message and game plan is SHOT. Mark my words he should go now but will be replaced half way through next year. MARK MY WORDS

Now that's a big call and by the way should add year 24

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Strongly suspect McQualter was better suited to managing the around-the-ground and forward pressure aspect rather than on-ball set-ups. No? 

If he goes to the Eagles, is Brett Ratten still looking for a plum midfield gig?

Come to think of it, about half this season's finals coaches have been on the edge of sacked at some point this year, so maybe we can snipe one of them. 

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21 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Strongly suspect McQualter was better suited to managing the around-the-ground and forward pressure aspect rather than on-ball set-ups. No? 

If he goes to the Eagles, is Brett Ratten still looking for a plum midfield gig?

Come to think of it, about half this season's finals coaches have been on the edge of sacked at some point this year, so maybe we can snipe one of them. 

 

[Sir Why You Little 36,906]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

If your not part of the solution u are part of the problem.. Goodwin needs to GO Massively disappionting coaching performance this year and our insipid non finals winning shhheitfest of 22/23 means his message and game plan is SHOT. Mark my words he should go now but will be replaced half way through next year. MARK MY WORDS

Regardless of your emotions PF Goody will be our Coach for next year. I agree he will be under the pump though, he must update his coaching template, or else he will be moved on. 
Personally i hope he can change his coaching philosophy and also be more proactive on Matchday