Season 2024 Over for Clayton Oliver

[ElDiablo14 5,002]

45 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Trust me… it’s true. One of our young boys quoted something he’d read on here about himself. How else would he know what gets posted on here? When I said you read Demonland? He said “Yeah, a few of us do.” I’m baffled by people’s insistence that this isn’t true. What’s so outlandish about it? It’s not beyond the realm of possibility. 

Makes sense, we humans look for validation sometimes. This is even more true for younger people, it is more so now in the era of social media.

[Roost it far 8,620]

I was told that we were getting Andrew Gaff a few years back by a friend with reasonable contacts and a good track record of supplying information. That not only turned out not to happen but apparently we never approached Gaff. I haven’t posted a rumour since. I have however posted a series of truly excellent posts which you can easily access in the Demonland back catalogue. Enjoy your day 🙋‍♂️

[dazzledavey36 55,359]

4 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I was told that we were getting Andrew Gaff a few years back by a friend with reasonable contacts and a good track record of supplying information. That not only turned out not to happen but apparently we never approached Gaff. I haven’t posted a rumour since. I have however posted a series of truly excellent posts which you can easily access in the Demonland back catalogue. Enjoy your day 🙋‍♂️

Interesting because I heard the opposite.  I heard we chased him hard during 2018 and Dom Tyson confirmed this on a podcast with Shane Crawford and it was one of the reason he was pushed out of the team as they were targeting a genuine wingman which Gaff and Josh Kelly were our prime targets.

Turns out we couldn't get either across the line.

[Salems Lot 2,636]

13 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Dagnabbit I shoulda read the fine print.

This! "Dagnabbit" a word that should be used more often!!

[KozzyCan 764]

12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Interesting because I heard the opposite.  I heard we chased him hard during 2018 and Dom Tyson confirmed this on a podcast with Shane Crawford and it was one of the reason he was pushed out of the team as they were targeting a genuine wingman which Gaff and Josh Kelly were our prime targets.

Turns out we couldn't get either across the line.

Pretty funny if Tyson was getting pushed out because we were chasing the bloke who got selected with the pick we traded him in for.

[Ollie fan 3,475]

14 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Pretty funny if Tyson was getting pushed out because we were chasing the bloke who got selected with the pick we traded him in for.

These 180 degrees different opinions show how unreliable rumours are.

1 hour ago, The Jackson FIX said:

I love the bloke and I’m still contemplating getting a BANG BANG BANG tattoo but there are other things to consider (alongside his past accolades) to get a balanced view of whether we listen to offers;

a) struggle to finish top 10 in our b&f this year in a year we finished 10th

b) documented to have been exhibiting behaviour not in line with our standards for a number of years at a time the club clearly needs to make some form of change

c) brought the club to it’s knees at the end of last year because of his behaviour 

d) seems to be in a better place and there is a chance he can get back to his best but that is by no means guaranteed

e) taking up a significant chunk of our salary cap for many years to come

Based on all of that, hard to argue 2x 1st rounders is an awful deal not worth listening to.

This denigration of a champion who has had one average season, playing most of it with a badly broken dominant hand, shows why I think this whole load of rubbish is potentially bad for his mental health.

[KozzyCan 764]

1 minute ago, Ollie fan said:

These 180 degrees different opinions show how unreliable rumours are.

Trade rumours are a bit of fun imo. No need to get too worked up over them. Not much else to talk about at this stage of the year except how jealous we are of the teams playing finals.

[PaulRB 6,411]

With Clarry there is the correlation vs causation question..? When he’s in best form we win flag, when his form drops our form drops.

Part of our recent success has been due to our midfield being so good we could play one less in the middle and still break even… with advantages elsewhere. Clarry was a huge part of that.

So if he can get back to his best, he’s one bird in the hand that you’d never trade for two in the bush (even high picks). Trac similar. 

[layzie 34,011]

Clubs get approached by other clubs regarding players? Naaaaaa!

Does a bear do their business in the woods? 

[KozzyCan 764]

6 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

With Clarry there is the correlation vs causation question..? When he’s in best form we win flag, when his form drops our form drops.

Part of our recent success has been due to our midfield being so good we could play one less in the middle and still break even… with advantages elsewhere. Clarry was a huge part of that.

So if he can get back to his best, he’s one bird in the hand that you’d never trade for two in the bush (even high picks). Trac similar. 

Oliver was injured for half the season last year when we hit our best patch of form. He came back for finals and played well but we lost both games anyway.

It's a team game. There's more to it than just one player.

[Sir Windsor 219]

15 hours ago, adonski said:

I don't think a club is paying that for Clazz after the year he has had

Would then say WCE our 4,5 and MFC F1 for Reid? 

That would be a very tempting offer. 
 

If Trac ships off then we use those pics to complete  rebuild of midfield.

[adonski 12,435]

Just now, Sir Windsor said:

Would then say WCE our 4,5 and MFC F1 for Reid? 

That would be a very tempting offer. 
 

If Trac ships off then we use those pics to complete  rebuild of midfield.

I would stop obsessing with Reid and get better value for those picks and draft our own players personally

[layzie 34,011]

59 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I was told that we were getting Andrew Gaff a few years back by a friend with reasonable contacts and a good track record of supplying information. That not only turned out not to happen but apparently we never approached Gaff. I haven’t posted a rumour since. I have however posted a series of truly excellent posts which you can easily access in the Demonland back catalogue. Enjoy your day 🙋‍♂️

Weren't you going to host your own show at some point? 

[Sir Windsor 219]

5 minutes ago, adonski said:

I would stop obsessing with Reid and get better value for those picks and draft our own players personally

But he is worth obsessing over though. He will be much better than Daicos and be able to change the course of games off his own foot. 

Ask yourself, what you would have given to get Bont 3-4 years ago? 3 first rounders? We would essentially be getting a player of that ilk before he would even turn 21. I know the hype on him early was over-the-top, but i saw enough in his first year to know this kid will be the best player in the comp in 3-4 years time; maybe even sooner.

Compliment him with Windsor, Kolt, Rivers and another top 10 player, and that midfield will win you another 1-2 flags in the next decade.  

[2021 301]

Those at the club would know better where Oliver is at than us. We have to trust in them. Personally, I thank anyone who shares legit info, that’s why we’re here right?

[Rednblueriseing 825]

Can someone bring me up to speed on what's happened or rumoured to happen with Oliver?

[adonski 12,435]

4 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Can someone bring me up to speed on what's happened or rumoured to happen with Oliver?

Nothing new

Clubs asking the question given what happened last year, but Clazz highly likely to stay

[Roost it far 8,620]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Interesting because I heard the opposite.  I heard we chased him hard during 2018 and Dom Tyson confirmed this on a podcast with Shane Crawford and it was one of the reason he was pushed out of the team as they were targeting a genuine wingman which Gaff and Josh Kelly were our prime targets.

Turns out we couldn't get either across the line.

Interesting, maybe my friend was correct after all. 

[Roost it far 8,620]

43 minutes ago, layzie said:

Weren't you going to host your own show at some point? 

I was indeed, only in an alternate reality though. You’d be called Active as opposed to Layzie and the Demons would dominate. 

[Foopy on the telly 529]

14 hours ago, Deelectable said:

'Impeccable track record'? Please repost. I'll kick it off with Will Hayward.😉

Well when someone breaks the story of a 7-year contract offer being tabled to Trac - before any of the journalists even become aware of it -, then you have to conclude they’ve got good info.

 

[layzie 34,011]

5 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I was indeed, only in an alternate reality though. You’d be called Active as opposed to Layzie and the Demons would dominate. 

Haha, bizarro world. 

[Demonland 73,140]

2 minutes ago, Foopy on the telly said:

Well when someone breaks the story of a 7-year contract offer being tabled to Trac - before any of the journalists even become aware of it -, then you have to conclude they’ve got good info.

 

To be fair he may not have got that right. Too soon? 🤪

[Oxdee 439]

I can’t see a way that a Clayton Oliver trade is done. 
firstly, his trade value has diminished. Last year he was worth 2 x 1st round draft picks however this value has dropped to only 1 x 1st round. 
secondly, like petracca, clayton is on an extended multi million dollar contract. Again, there is too much risk for other clubs to spend that much money on a talent that might never reach his peak again. 
dees are unlikely to agree to only 1 x 1st rounder and won’t agree to subsidise Clayton’s wage at another club. 
 

[Moonshadow 17,677]

Happy to hear all reasonable rumours about possible trades involving our players. Some posters have good intel and should be encouraged to share.

Thanks @goodwindees

 

 

[Sir Windsor 219]

Agreed keep em coming. 
 

Trading is part of football, we all need to grow up and accept it’s part of the game.