Season 2024 Over for Clayton Oliver

[Jaded No More 68,867]

8 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

I think we are in rebuilding phase. I would seriously look at a good offer. 

If the club thought that, then why chase Houston? Why not trade Viney?

You might think we are in a rebuild phase, but I don’t think the club agrees. Besides Oliver just turned 27, he’s not exactly hitting retirement. He easily has 6 great years left in him if he gets himself back to fitness.

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23 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

 

It won't happen. And if WCW is right and players read this garbage, that would be a terrible thing for his mental health and recovery.

It’s true… some players DO read DL. I don’t know why some people refuse to believe that (not you, Ollie fan). It’s a Demons forum and it’s a well-respected and respectable Demons forum, therefore what’s so unbelievable about players reading it?

[The heart beats true 18,110]

1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

It’s true… some players DO read DL.

Well in that case….

I’ve always loved you Clarrie. Don’t go anywhere. We’ve got your back.

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45 minutes ago, djr said:

I think the difference here is that the rumour is not potentially libellous.

Yes but it’s potentially gasket-blowing 😅

[Deelectable 1,043]

5 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

It’s true… some players DO read DL. I don’t know why some people refuse to believe that (not you, Ollie fan). It’s a Demons forum and it’s a well-respected and respectable Demons forum, therefore what’s so unbelievable about players reading it?

FWIW I do believe it and, with all that's happened,  why some here want to post totally unsubstantiated rumours beggars belief. Nothing good can from it .

[Dr. Gonzo 24,175]

56 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

It would be the biggest mistake to trade Clarry in order to appease Trac, when we all know Trac won’t stop looking for a “brand management” move.

If we trade Clarry it’s because we have decided our window is shut and we are trying to capitalize on the high value players we have. Or because something amazing has fallen into our lap and we need the picks to make it happen. 

Imagine that, trade Clarry and Trac wants out in 12 months 🤯

[Jaded No More 68,867]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Imagine that, trade Clarry and Trac wants out in 12 months 🤯

I think Trac will continue to explore his options no matter what we do as a club.
Regardless, you do not let players make list management decisions for you. 

[titan_uranus 24,974]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Maybe because it's no coincidence that soon as Petracca has raised issues with the club we now find ourselves that Clarry may be on the trade table..

If the right offer is there then do the trade.

If Trac had a Clarry issue, it wasn't with Clarry himself. It was with the club for how it handled that situation.

Spending all year getting Clarry into what is, from all reports, the best off-field place he's been in years, only to then summarily trade him would be a really strange move. I know some will say "but it's two first round draft picks", but even then, after everything we've been through, if we then say "thanks Clarry but we don't actually care about you that much" I think that undoes so much of what we've tried to achieve this year as to be a bad decision.

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

37 minutes ago, 640MD said:

Ok just when the Dee’s were off the media ****sheet.  Some assss whole wants to put us back.   Give me a break

Fine if you think it’s BS, no need for name calling though. 

[speed demon 804]

1 hour ago, Sir Windsor said:

Hmmm … I’d rather a fit and firing Oliver over Trac tbh. 

If Oliver has done enough to prove his turned a new page, vs Tracs alleged rogue antics. Oliver everyday of the week. 

I'm with you @Sir Windsor.

If Trac wants to leave - at 28yo and coming off a major injury - trade for the right price. That's business. 

If Oliver wants to stay - as a vulnerable person who seems to be getting his life back on track - keep if he's committed and capable. Trading wouldn't be business it would be an erosion of trust between the playing group and the football department. 

I strongly doubt it happens. 

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,547]

Are there no other clubs that can hit the news re trades/non trades? Are we the only club?

Clarry is not going anywhere. And those willing to sell him down the river for a couple of speculative 1st round picks - I will look out for your supportive comments when he's tearing up the midfield again, like his normal self after a big preseason. Poor guy - building up to be, if not already, in the conversation as one of our best EVER. He has 1 average year (average, not 'bad' - just 'bad' to some according to his ridiculously lofty standards) and suddenly he's expendable. For unknowns. 

I've read, and it seems to be the case, that he's an emotional guy. I think it would mean a lot to him that we have his back, and don't just want to give him the old heave-ho for a bag of beans. 

Ridiculous!!!

[Dee Boys 597]

24 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

FWIW I do believe it and, with all that's happened,  why some here want to post totally unsubstantiated rumours beggars belief. Nothing good can from it .

But it’s clearly not totally unsubstantiated. @goodwindees has a pretty impeccable track record with his mail. 

Getting the inside word on what’s happening within the four walls of the footy club is a big reason for a lot of people being on this site and the actual thing that beggars belief is why on earth anyone would want to censor that, or abuse anyone who’s providing that. Genuinely cannot for the life of me understand it.

If you don’t like it then ignore it, like people do with a bunch of other topics and posts. 

[Deelectable 1,043]

4 minutes ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

Are there no other clubs that can hit the news re trades/non trades? Are we the only club?

Clarry is not going anywhere. And those willing to sell him down the river for a couple of speculative 1st round picks - I will look out for your supportive comments when he's tearing up the midfield again, like his normal self after a big preseason. Poor guy - building up to be, if not already, in the conversation as one of our best EVER. He has 1 average year (average, not 'bad' - just 'bad' to some according to his ridiculously lofty standards) and suddenly he's expendable. For unknowns. 

I've read, and it seems to be the case, that he's an emotional guy. I think it would mean a lot to him that we have his back, and don't just want to give him the old heave-ho for a bag of beans. 

Ridiculous!!!

He is a superstar and one of our all time greats. As you say one average season. Two first round picks ? Give me a spell. 4 b&f's and could have had a couple of Brownlows if it wasn't for Trac and vice versa. In rotating order people have wanted Petracca,Oliver and Viney all gone. Guess what they're sll staying. Don't need a 'source'. Just know. I said put plenty on it a few weeks ago and nothing has changed.  Wanting Clarry gone is downright embarrassing. 

[Deelectable 1,043]

Just now, Dee Boys said:

But it’s clearly not totally unsubstantiated. @goodwindees has a pretty impeccable track record with his mail. 

Getting the inside word on what’s happening within the four walls of the footy club is a big reason for a lot of people being on this site and the actual thing that beggars belief is why on earth anyone would want to censor that, or abuse anyone who’s providing that. Genuinely cannot for the life of me understand it.

If you don’t like it then ignore it, like people do with a bunch of other topics and posts. 

'Impeccable track record'? Please repost. I'll kick it off with Will Hayward.😉

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,835]

Maybe Stephen Smith has said 'I'm in - and here are my conditions . . . '

[BoBo 2,941]

54 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

Let's hope players like Clarry don't read this drivel. Even if this were true not sure of the motivation of a 'supporter' who would post this at this time.

I just want to be clear, were you the poster that questioned whether @Jaded No More was a Collingwood plant or not a real Melbourne ‘supporter’?

Can you please confirm if that was you or not?

Can’t remember and if I’m wrong I apologise. 
 

[Dee Boys 597]

Just now, Deelectable said:

'Impeccable track record'? Please repost. I'll kick it off with Will Hayward.😉

From memory he said we were interested in Will Hayward. Not that we’d definitely land him. Do you know how many players clubs show interest in that don’t end up getting done?!

As previously stated, if you don’t like it then don’t read it. It’s like that famous Ricky Gervais stand up line about guitar lessons - if you don’t like it then move on! Why on earth would you try to censor something that other people appreciate and doesn’t adversely affect you?

[JTR 2,846]

Hi Tom

When you go with this as your 'scoop' for tomorrow, could you at least credit the forum/thread/poster this time?

Cheers

 

[Deelectable 1,043]

1 minute ago, BoBo said:

I just want to be clear, were you the poster that questioned whether @Jaded No More was a Collingwood plant or not a real Melbourne ‘supporter’?

Can you please confirm if that was you or not?

Can’t remember and if I’m wrong I apologise. 
 

No need to apologise.  If I said it I'd readily admit it but I didn't. Said some other stuff but not that. Cheers.

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5 minutes ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

Are there no other clubs that can hit the news re trades/non trades? Are we the only club?

Clarry is not going anywhere. And those willing to sell him down the river for a couple of speculative 1st round picks - I will look out for your supportive comments when he's tearing up the midfield again, like his normal self after a big preseason. Poor guy - building up to be, if not already, in the conversation as one of our best EVER. He has 1 average year (average, not 'bad' - just 'bad' to some according to his ridiculously lofty standards) and suddenly he's expendable. For unknowns. 

I've read, and it seems to be the case, that he's an emotional guy. I think it would mean a lot to him that we have his back, and don't just want to give him the old heave-ho for a bag of beans. 

Ridiculous!!!

So well-said. And so true. Clarrie is definitely an emotional person. He’s emotionally fragile and I reckon the club is succeeding in working with him on this. And you’re right about it meaning a lot to him knowing we have his back; I reckon his self-confidence took a huge hit so any form of support and encouragement is gratefully received. He’s definitely improving though… wears his heart on his sleeve does our Claz.

He’s said on more than one occasion ‘the only way I’d leave Melbourne is if they didn’t want me and got rid of me.’ Sad way to word it but that’s how he feels. 

[Neil Crompton 5,508]

Clarry has stated he won’t leave - but only because @WalkingCivilWar won’t leave and go with him.

[Deelectable 1,043]

2 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

From memory he said we were interested in Will Hayward. Not that we’d definitely land him. Do you know how many players clubs show interest in that don’t end up getting done?!

As previously stated, if you don’t like it then don’t read it. It’s like that famous Ricky Gervais stand up line about guitar lessons - if you don’t like it then move on! Why on earth would you try to censor something that other people appreciate and doesn’t adversely affect you?

Thanks for telling me what to do. So appreciated. Plenty others on here sick of the unsubstantiated garbage that gets posted by some. Can't you see it's all to fan their insatiable egos? Will Hayward is the perfect example of the '50cents each way 'mentality.  Same now with Clarry when it's least needed. Notice your beloved poster a few hours ago giving us the 'inside scoop' of Houston to the Saints. Pity that was reported on Midweek Tackle over 24 hours ago. 😄

[Jaded No More 68,867]

13 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

No need to apologise.  If I said it I'd readily admit it but I didn't. Said some other stuff but not that. Cheers.

So you’re a liar the same way you claim everyone else here is?

 

On 31/08/2024 at 19:13, Deelectable said:

Just gotta love these people🤣🤣🤣" I have actual sources. I work in the field". Side splittingly hilarious! Go on, supply those sources. Of course you can't.Like McClure, Morris etc you have none. Meantime I have a source that says you're a Collingwood plant on these boards. Sorry, can't reveal who that is.😘

 

[BoBo 2,941]

7 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

No need to apologise.  If I said it I'd readily admit it but I didn't. Said some other stuff but not that. Cheers.

Ahhhhh yeah I remember you now.

Yeah you said it (in jest) that jaded was a Collingwood plant. It was on the Christian Petracca thread at 19:13 on Saturday.

’Meantime, I have a source that says you’re a Collingwood plant on these boards’

You have form in questioning who is and isn’t a true supporter when you come across posts you disagree with. 

Weird. 

[dazzledavey36 54,277]

Stephen Rowe on SA FIVEAA radio did mention that Adelaide will be going after Oliver again this year.