Christian Petracca

[Bates Mate 4,422]

That maggot Craig McCrae ,"jokingly" saying trac would look great in black and white and they'd love to have him. Can even have his car park. 

In the US this would be considered tampering and cop a massive fine . But it's Collingwood and flea just a bit of banter. Seriously planting a seed like this shouldn't be allowed

[layzie 32,740]

You couldn't write a better soap opera.

Unbelievable.

[JJJ 1,001]

27 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Interesting to hear JJJ. Sounds like you have some inside information. Do you happen to know what they were disgruntled about specifically? Is it a game style thing given you mention new ideas?

I’d rather not say too much. Most of what is said in the media at the moment is around the mark. There are a few other bits and pieces but given the rules of Demonland I will zip it.

[Jaded No More 67,609]

3 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

That maggot Craig McCrae ,"jokingly" saying trac would look great in black and white and they'd love to have him. Can even have his car park. 

In the US this would be considered tampering and cop a massive fine . But it's Collingwood and flea just a bit of banter. Seriously planting a seed like this shouldn't be allowed

I’ll have Nick Daicos and their future first, since they’ll be bottom 6 next year. Thanks McRae you self indulgent pr!ck

[dazzledavey36 52,704]

3 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

That maggot Craig McCrae ,"jokingly" saying trac would look great in black and white and they'd love to have him. Can even have his car park. 

In the US this would be considered tampering and cop a massive fine . But it's Collingwood and flea just a bit of banter. Seriously planting a seed like this shouldn't be allowed

Calm down lol

It's banter and words. Saying exactly every other coach would agree with.

Nothing wrong with it.

[JJJ 1,001]

4 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

That maggot Craig McCrae ,"jokingly" saying trac would look great in black and white and they'd love to have him. Can even have his car park. 

In the US this would be considered tampering and cop a massive fine . But it's Collingwood and flea just a bit of banter. Seriously planting a seed like this shouldn't be allowed

True. He’d be smashed for that.

[dazzledavey36 52,704]

42 minutes ago, Gator said:

Agreed.

Reading between the lines re Jordan Lewis' comments about people ''running their own agendas'' I couldn't help but sense he was taking a significant swipe at Petracca.

My exact thought now.

[Ted Lasso 18,755]

If he's genuinely having this much of a tantrum we should trade him, it's too toxic and corrosive having players that don't want to be there at the club.

[Deestar9 1,548]

2 hours ago, BoBo said:

If it’s blatantly untrue, all Tracc has to do is come out and say he’s got no issues and there’s no story. 
 

Gawn basically only said that Tracc has a contract with the club and so did the MFC. That doesn’t mean there aren’t issues. 
 

If neither Tracc, Gawn or the club is explicitly coming out and saying it’s not true and these are indeed just rumours, then the only sensible inference to take is that it’s true.

I have no doubt Trac has expressed his feelings to the club ..in fact Goody referenced it but it’s more how him/his team have played this out. He would absolutely know that as 29 yrs old ..his contract etc …the only teams with currency are not be going to win a premiership in the next couple of years. As I said I’d personally be very happy to take the draft picks & add to our young talent…he might not be happy but I’m not overly happy with him. Instead of the first default action where it’s always  the MFC’s fault..maybe Gawn and others aren’t overly happy with how Trac’s handled/engineered this. A player is the sum of the club & its supporters ..no player should be bigger than the club & when all is said  & done…MFC will continue to be our club of choice. I’m more unhappy about losing ANB …

[Deestar9 1,548]

2 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

Bont's frustrations with the dogs were well documented over the off-season:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/thats-trouble-dogs-elpehant-in-room-as-frustrated-superstars-future-in-doubt/news-story/569789df5489e6dd3e3fc34027507161

I think I put in brackets (in private). I am absolutely aware of what has happened/happening with the Bont in particular …but he/his camp haven’t aired their grievances publicly…

[Sir Why You Little 36,587]

1 hour ago, JJJ said:

Trac has been upset with the club for a while. I think the KBD game and the days following pushed him over the edge.

His unhappiness has been an open secret for some time. 

The club and Petracca are both in no win situations now regarding public statements. Everyone involved, including his management share the blame for this ridiculous situation.

I heard a lot of things last year, but was told to keep quiet. Things have been brewing for a long time…

[Colm 1,923]

5 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

I have no doubt Trac has expressed his feelings to the club ..in fact Goody referenced it but it’s more how him/his team have played this out. He would absolutely know that as 29 yrs old ..his contract etc …the only teams with currency are not be going to win a premiership in the next couple of years. As I said I’d personally be very happy to take the draft picks & add to our young talent…he might not be happy but I’m not overly happy with him. Instead of the first default action where it’s always  the MFC’s fault..maybe Gawn and others aren’t overly happy with how Trac’s handled/engineered this. A player is the sum of the club & its supporters ..no player should be bigger than the club & when all is said  & done…MFC will continue to be our club of choice. I’m more unhappy about losing ANB …

I’m sure there’s a few teams that are in the flag window that could make it happen if all parties are willing. Freo and the Swans for starters. 

[KozzyCan 335]

4 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

I think I put in brackets (in private). I am absolutely aware of what has happened/happening with the Bont in particular …but he/his camp haven’t aired their grievances publicly…

I don't see a difference. Both are examples of a journalist reporting the player in question is frustrated/disgruntled. Neither went on the record and said their piece publicly.

[Rednblueriseing 787]

14 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I heard a lot of things last year, but was told to keep quiet. Things have been brewing for a long time…

Any details will be much appreciated?

[Gawndy the Great 9,008]

10 minutes ago, Colm said:

I’m sure there’s a few teams that are in the flag window that could make it happen if all parties are willing. Freo and the Swans for starters. 

Freo are the only team with draft or player capital. Even their current draft hand is unders (8,13,17). That isnt going to nett you the next Petracca. It would take 1 pick in the top 5, 1 in top 10 and a player to start the conversation. Why? PA want to first rounders for Houston.... that is why.

The salary or contract shouldn't even be a factor. No other club would even batter an eye for paying him circa 1M pa for the next 5, there would be plenty who go upwards of putting a 8M contract in front of him. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,587]

Just now, Rednblueriseing said:

Any details will be much appreciated?

Not able to say anything as i made it quite clear, but these last few days are not suprising to me at all. 
There MUST be major changes made this Summer, We need new voices and new ideas 

[Demonland 70,235]

1 minute ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Any details will be much appreciated?

Please don't use the threads as PM. Please PM posters directly. It clutters up threads. Thank you.

[Rednblueriseing 787]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Not able to say anything as i made it quite clear, but these last few days are not suprising to me at all. 
There MUST be major changes made this Summer, We need new voices and new ideas 

Fair enough let's hope they make these changes and get back on Tracc... funny thing is the team isn't that bad if they are all on the same pages we could definitely make finals next year

[FreedFromDesire 594]

24 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

If he's genuinely having this much of a tantrum we should trade him, it's too toxic and corrosive having players that don't want to be there at the club.

It could, of course, be more complicated than that.

What if he's correct about everything? What if he's being a true leader by calling out things that aren't good enough? There's surely been enough happen now to show our culture may not be as good as Pert has described.

That doesn't mean he's gone about it the right way, but if he's actually trying to demand better then I'm not sure that qualifies as 'toxic and corrosive', but if he purposefully leaked it to the media then it's murkier.

[Ted Lasso 18,755]

Just now, FreedFromDesire said:

It could, of course, be more complicated than that.

What if he's correct about everything? What if he's being a true leader by calling out things that aren't good enough? There's surely been enough happen now to show our culture may not be as good as Pert has described.

That doesn't mean he's gone about it the right way, but if he's actually trying to demand better then I'm not sure that qualifies as 'toxic and corrosive', but if he purposefully leaked it to the media then it's murkier.

As Andy mentioned i don't really want to get into anything unconfirmed or speculate too much, but you might well be right, we just don't know enough. 

What i would say is that IF it's gone as far as a player leaking this to the media that would be incredibly dissapointing

[WalkingCivilWar 39,256]

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I heard a lot of things last year, but was told to keep quiet. Things have been brewing for a long time…

Many of us heard a lot of things last year, and this year, and probably will next year, too. It’s so easy to say things have been brewing for a long time, a statement that serves no purpose other than to clandestinely stoke the fire of rumours. I’m sure things are “brewing” in every club. 

[FreedFromDesire 594]

2 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

As Andy mentioned i don't really want to get into anything unconfirmed or speculate too much, but you might well be right, we just don't know enough. 

What i would say is that IF it's gone as far as a player leaking this to the media that would be incredibly dissapointing

Agree completely. That definitely would make it even more complex.

[Sir Why You Little 36,587]

9 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Fair enough let's hope they make these changes and get back on Tracc... funny thing is the team isn't that bad if they are all on the same pages we could definitely make finals next year

Absolutely. If the right changes are made, we could still be in the window 

But they have to nail it

[BDA 22,238]

I would like an embargo on any further contact with the press. The entire MFC should STFU.

Thrash it out behind closed doors. Announce whatever changes come from the review when appropriate to do so. And every player should work their butts off to be in the best possible shape come Rd1 next year.

[Colm 1,923]

6 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Freo are the only team with draft or player capital. Even their current draft hand is unders (8,13,17). That isnt going to nett you the next Petracca. It would take 1 pick in the top 5, 1 in top 10 and a player to start the conversation. Why? PA want to first rounders for Houston.... that is why.

The salary or contract shouldn't even be a factor. No other club would even batter an eye for paying him circa 1M pa for the next 5, there would be plenty who go upwards of putting a 8M contract in front of him. 

I think 8&13 would be about right for a player that will be 29 at the start of next season coming of a very serious injury. 
 

Freo have also been linked strongly to Chad Warner who is out of contact next year. If he won’t sign now and I’m the Swans I’d be asking the question. 
 

With Warner off the books they could  probably afford his wages too. 

I don't think it will happen and I think he will stay, I’m just saying it’s possible if he really wants out.