Just now, FreedFromDesire said:

It could, of course, be more complicated than that.

What if he's correct about everything? What if he's being a true leader by calling out things that aren't good enough? There's surely been enough happen now to show our culture may not be as good as Pert has described.

That doesn't mean he's gone about it the right way, but if he's actually trying to demand better then I'm not sure that qualifies as 'toxic and corrosive', but if he purposefully leaked it to the media then it's murkier.

As Andy mentioned i don't really want to get into anything unconfirmed or speculate too much, but you might well be right, we just don't know enough. 

What i would say is that IF it's gone as far as a player leaking this to the media that would be incredibly dissapointing

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I heard a lot of things last year, but was told to keep quiet. Things have been brewing for a long time…

Many of us heard a lot of things last year, and this year, and probably will next year, too. It’s so easy to say things have been brewing for a long time, a statement that serves no purpose other than to clandestinely stoke the fire of rumours. I’m sure things are “brewing” in every club. 

9 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Fair enough let's hope they make these changes and get back on Tracc... funny thing is the team isn't that bad if they are all on the same pages we could definitely make finals next year

Absolutely. If the right changes are made, we could still be in the window 

But they have to nail it

I would like an embargo on any further contact with the press. The entire MFC should STFU.

Thrash it out behind closed doors. Announce whatever changes come from the review when appropriate to do so. And every player should work their butts off to be in the best possible shape come Rd1 next year.

6 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Freo are the only team with draft or player capital. Even their current draft hand is unders (8,13,17). That isnt going to nett you the next Petracca. It would take 1 pick in the top 5, 1 in top 10 and a player to start the conversation. Why? PA want to first rounders for Houston.... that is why.

The salary or contract shouldn't even be a factor. No other club would even batter an eye for paying him circa 1M pa for the next 5, there would be plenty who go upwards of putting a 8M contract in front of him. 

I think 8&13 would be about right for a player that will be 29 at the start of next season coming of a very serious injury. 
 

Freo have also been linked strongly to Chad Warner who is out of contact next year. If he won’t sign now and I’m the Swans I’d be asking the question. 
 

With Warner off the books they could  probably afford his wages too. 

I don't think it will happen and I think he will stay, I’m just saying it’s possible if he really wants out. 

2 minutes ago, BDA said:

I would like an embargo on any further contact with the press. The entire MFC should STFU.

Thrash it out behind closed doors. Announce whatever changes come from the review when appropriate to do so. And every player should work their butts off to be in the best possible shape come Rd1 next year.

If it were just that simple.

5 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Many of us heard a lot of things last year, and this year, and probably will next year, too. It’s so easy to say things have been brewing for a long time, a statement that serves no purpose other than to clandestinely stoke the fire of rumours. I’m sure things are “brewing” in every club. 

I PM’ed you information that you didn’t want to believe 

That is your choice, but i stand by my Source, and coming from a News Background if i am unable to give out information publicly then that is how it stands

13 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Many of us heard a lot of things last year, and this year, and probably will next year, too. It’s so easy to say things have been brewing for a long time, a statement that serves no purpose other than to clandestinely stoke the fire of rumours. I’m sure things are “brewing” in every club. 

I've heard lots of things (about) "brewing" from a former Dee

 

(Please realise this is a joke post lol)

Edited August 15, 2024Aug 15 by roy11
Just wanting to ensure ppl understand its a joke

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I PM’ed you information that you didn’t want to believe 

That is your choice, but i stand by my Source, and coming from a News Background if i am unable to give out information publicly then that is how it stands

Then perhaps you should do what I’ve been told (in no uncertain terms) to do… don’t allude to anything, don’t hint, don’t start a guessing game etc. It took some time for me to take the advice despite the rude manner in which I was advised.

The PM you sent me didn’t contain anything I hadn’t heard before. I wasn’t convinced then, I’m not convinced now. 

6 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Then perhaps you should do what I’ve been told (in no uncertain terms) to do… don’t allude to anything, don’t hint, don’t start a guessing game etc. It took some time for me to take the advice despite the rude manner in which I was advised.

The PM you sent me didn’t contain anything I hadn’t heard before. I wasn’t convinced then, I’m not convinced now. 

That is your choice to make….I respect my Sources 

13 minutes ago, roy11 said:

I've heard lots of things (about) "brewing" from a former Dee

 

(Please realise this is a joke post lol)

Have you been to Brewmanity, Roy? I haven’t because I can’t get a *second mortgage on my house.

* I rent so I don’t even have a first mortgage but you get my point. 😁

 

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That is your choice to make….I respect my Sources 

Fair enough.

BTW not sure if I’ve told you this already but I read your posts in a Winston Churchill voice 🤭

1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Fair enough.

BTW not sure if I’ve told you this already but I read your posts in a Winston Churchill voice 🤭

Season 2 of “The Crown”

At least it's never boring being a Melbourne supporter! 

22 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Have you been to Brewmanity, Roy? I haven’t because I can’t get a *second mortgage on my house.

* I rent so I don’t even have a first mortgage but you get my point. 😁

 

Not the world's biggest beer drinker but i'm sure i will pop in one time soon!

On 12/08/2024 at 19:03, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Morris is a Melbourne supporter

Is he related to Steve Morris the sponsor?

23 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

At least it's never boring being a Melbourne supporter! 

It is on Gameday.

I might have missed it but aside from the line that people “familiar with the situation” have said that Trac’s going nowhere, I found the following two paragraphs of Peter Ryan’s article today the most insightful:

“Without Brayshaw’s calming influence, frustration among the group has bubbled to the surface. The retired midfielder was the team glue who brought out the best in skipper Max Gawn and vice captain Jack Viney.

But those two, who have had to tirelessly represent the players throughout the tumultuous period, have busy lives with family alongside football, and again find themselves engaging in a review where all the old problems are re-aired.”

On 12/08/2024 at 19:03, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Morris is a Melbourne supporter

Define ‘supporter.’

Coz if what he’s doing is supporting I can’t imagine the carnage he’d wreak on something he doesn’t support. 

6 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

It is on Gameday.

I believe Jaded said ‘Boring’ not ‘mentally unhinged’ 😁

22 minutes ago, dino rover said:

Is he related to Steve Morris the sponsor?

Is Steve Morris related to Philip Morris who used to sponsor Craig Smoker and Damien Gaspar?

30 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I might have missed it but aside from the line that people “familiar with the situation” have said that Trac’s going nowhere, I found the following two paragraphs of Peter Ryan’s article today the most insightful:

“Without Brayshaw’s calming influence, frustration among the group has bubbled to the surface. The retired midfielder was the team glue who brought out the best in skipper Max Gawn and vice captain Jack Viney.

But those two, who have had to tirelessly represent the players throughout the tumultuous period, have busy lives with family alongside football, and again find themselves engaging in a review where all the old problems are re-aired.”

Give cp5 the captaincy then?

But it cannot rely solely on captain Max Gawn to carry the can for the whole team, on and off the field. He has been significant for Oliver’s personal turnaround this season.

But after the club lost to Sydney Swans in Opening Round, and interview requests went in for Oliver to speak after his turbulent pre-season, the club wheeled out Gawn instead.

Out loud, the skipper questioned why the media load wasn’t being more shared?

It was all on Max. Again. Even after being beaten in the ruck by Brodie Grundy at the SCG that night.

The tragedy is that his white-anting undermines the very improvement he is trying to drive.

ie. Dan Houston no longer wanting to come because of all the noise around the club 

Someone who I like Rohan Connolly does a weekly podcast with Rodney Eade. They discuss our current predicament and what needs to happen moving forward

It starts around 4 minutes: Footyology Podcast: Is disaster looming for Demons? | Footyology

 

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