Christian Petracca

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45 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

I'm more relieved trac is staying purely because rewatching the 2021 gf would be hard to watch if he had left

I wouldn’t be too worried. AI soon will be able to delete him from the 2021 premiership video. We will just see the ball that formally was in his hands do amazing things by itself.

Edited September 2 by John Crow Batty

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5 minutes ago, BDA said:

I’ll back Trac in to get back to his best.

After hearing Maxy’s interview last week I’ve no doubt ll get back on track with the playing group. I’ve no concerns there.

Neither Trac, the playing group or the club covered themselves in glory during this whole shambles. The backgrounding to the press has been appalling and an inditement on everyone.

I would like to know what issues Trac raised and how these will be dealt with. There needs to be communication from the club to the members here. The usual “she’ll be right, every club has problems” line won’t do.

I expect to see changes and it looks like Pert and Roffey are in the gun.

Huge 2025 coming up for this club.

You know who covered himself in glory - Max. 

Brilliant throughout this ordeal. He was as honest as he could be, he's a fantastic example of a leader. But not only about this issue, but his involvement in getting Clarry right, premiership captain, 7 time all Australian - Melbourne's greatest leader and one of the best on and off the field.

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38 minutes ago, adonski said:

Are we missing an opportunity here? Will he be mentally and physically prepared to have an impact in 2025?

If he misses half the year and does bugger all on the field as he eases his way back, we'll be in big trouble if he's traded at the end of 2025, value will be shot

What’s the opportunity tho?

Pies future first and we have to take De Goey?

A Carlton mid first rounder and Cerra or Zac Williams or someone else over paid?

The places Tracc wanted to go weren’t willing to off anything realistic.

Im sure Carlton thought about Harry McKay but I’m also sure Harry thought about Melbourne for 1 second before saying ‘get stuffed’.

If there was anything remotely worth accepting on the table I think Tracc’s camp would still be pushing it.

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6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

The leeches never let go, do they.

Edited September 2 by Demonland

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2 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

 

Believe what you want but I promise you this story isn't over by a long way.

 

I don't necessarily believe it is all good, that Trac is happy or that he won't leave at some point. 

All I am saying is that the media do not know either, but are incentivised to dramatise the situation as much as possible to get clicks/listeners/viewers. 

My position is that we do not know the true story.

All we know is that, for now, Oliver, Trac, Petty, Pickett are staying and Windsor, Roo, Kolt, Viney, Max re-signed,

which indicates to me that the club is not in disarray as the media wants you to believe. 

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18 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

You know who covered himself in glory - Max. 

Brilliant throughout this ordeal. He was as honest as he could be, he's a fantastic example of a leader. But not only about this issue, but his involvement in getting Clarry right, premiership captain, 7 time all Australian - Melbourne's greatest leader and one of the best on and off the field.

Fair call. Max has been excellent

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13 minutes ago, Monbon said:

The leeches never let go, do they.

No they don't. It's why it's never a good idea to feed them 

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40 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

 

Im sure Carlton thought about Harry McKay but I’m also sure Harry thought about Melbourne for 1 second before saying ‘get stuffed’.

 

I don't think Carlton killed this off, I reckon Harry and his management did.  The deal would have got done with Harry and picks.  Harry saying no way killed this for Carlton.

We will never know the behind doors conversation, I could imagine MFC saying to Petracca you want out get us a trade that works for us and we will consider.

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Does anyone know what was said at the Ringwood thing last night with May and Lever?

Tom Morris reported that they said something about the club's communications around Trac's Noosa trip.

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Did old mate sub Christian with Lever and May? 

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Perhaps brand Petracca found out there was no market or way for a trade to a big Melbourne Club.

They should focus on cooking Tik Tok's and leave the footy side of things to the actual sports management team. 

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1 hour ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

I don't necessarily believe it is all good, that Trac is happy or that he won't leave at some point. 

All I am saying is that the media do not know either, but are incentivised to dramatise the situation as much as possible to get clicks/listeners/viewers. 

My position is that we do not know the true story.

All we know is that, for now, Oliver, Trac, Petty, Pickett are staying and Windsor, Roo, Kolt, Viney, Max resigned,

which indicates to me that the club is not in disarray as the media wants you to believe. 

Re-signed. The hyphen makes a lotta difference !!!!

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2 hours ago, Deez21 said:

I think the damage is the media. As much as Trac wanted to go, there is no one in football who could've seen a trade eventuating, so the media should've made it a story on how Melbourne can improve but instead made it a trading story.

Even they acknowledged Trac wont request a trade yet that's all they spoke about it

Nah its on Trac and his team

He realised fast that a trade could never happen due to his salary/contract length remaining and also the fact his preferred spots had no currency 

 

If he came out and stated that all the medi fuss was false then i would give him the benifit of the doubt.

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It would be hilarious is Trac is not happy we didn't attract any talent in the offseason as he has made it almost impossible to sign anyone of quality

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1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

Does anyone know what was said at the Ringwood thing last night with May and Lever?

Tom Morris reported that they said something about the club's communications around Trac's Noosa trip.

Oh yeah. Anyone know anyone that went? I'm surprised Tom didn't plant someone in there

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3 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

We shouldnt repeat the same mistakes with Oliver.

It may have been a mistake in terms of on field performance, but it wan't a mistake in terms of managing and supporting Oliver. With ADHD, he needs the routine and responsibilities of week-to-week games and of being part of the playing group. All of his issues surfaced when he was stuck alone in rehab for 8 weeks last year.

At his best, Oliver is one of the very best players in the AFL and in working to keep him in the fold and healthy the club made the right decision.

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On 31/08/2024 at 18:46, BLWNBA said:

I think end of next year will be very, very interesting. 

I personally suspect this has only occurred due to the inability for a trade to be facilitated and the subsequent realisation. Either way, there is a lot of work to be done from both the Petracca camp and the MFC to reconcile and authentically repair relationships. 
 

what changes next year?

 

The only asset either club has is Mckay and they can't force the trade

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1 hour ago, SthSea22 said:

Nah its on Trac and his team

He realised fast that a trade could never happen due to his salary/contract length remaining and also the fact his preferred spots had no currency 

 

If he came out and stated that all the medi fuss was false then i would give him the benifit of the doubt.

Yes Trac was told no trade could eventuate and kept going. I have posted that in here a few times

 

But the media also knew no trade could eventuate and still made him leaving the crux of their story

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3 hours ago, dees189227 said:

I'm more relieved trac is staying purely because rewatching the 2021 gf would be hard to watch if he had left

On the other hand, if the Swans make it, with JJ in the 22, it'll be ever-so-slightly even better to watch!

(Related matter: I feel really conflicted in my wishes for Hogan...)

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Today's Age has a further "fizzed" up story about CP5. As much as I admire CP5, his response was two weeks too late for my comfort and belief. I had almost (but not quite) resolved in my mind that his behaviour was rapidly becoming a distraction and a liability. He owes us big time in 2025.

But why do the media love picking on us? Is it because for 57 years we were not much good or is it because in the 50s and 60s we were so good? Or is it because we were part of the MCC or that we played on the MCG? Or is it because it doesn't hurt sales when picking on the dees?

I don't know but it is surely some sort of envy and lack of respect for us.

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11 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

what changes next year?

 

The only asset either club has is Mckay and they can't force the trade

Nice if Collingwood were sitting on Pick 1 at the completion of Round 24, 2025...

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54 minutes ago, DubDee said:

It would be hilarious is Trac is not happy we didn't attract any talent in the offseason as he has made it almost impossible to sign anyone of quality

This idea that there is a pool of "talent" out there just waiting to change clubs is a myth. The vast majority of players who change clubs are delisted players or fringe/OOC/free agents. Sometimes those players prove their worth at their new clubs, but it's the exception rather than the rule. Even there, it often boils down to the list and the roles available.

The issue we're going to have is that in spite of all the doom and gloom, we have most positions covered and no-one is going to change clubs just to get in the queue. Perhaps mids, with Petracca moving forward/fitness unknown, also as a replacement for Brayshaw. But ... suspect that our priority will be a) getting the players we do have fit and b) the draft.

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25 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

Yes Trac was told no trade could eventuate and kept going. I have posted that in here a few times

 

But the media also knew no trade could eventuate and still made him leaving the crux of their story

I just don't get why he would keep going. It damaged both his and the club's reputations. 

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6 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

The most perplexing thing for me in all this is the whole "players couldn't understand why Petracca was in Noosa posting Instagram vids" - if they couldn't figure this out for themselves and had to rely on communication from the club to explain it I really worry about the IQ/EI of our players. I'm also worried about which players it was who were questioning it, is was it from our leadership group/senior players?

 

4 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

It's an indictment on the playing group and leadership group if they allowed that kind of commentary to fester. Petracca had every right to take a mental break after what he went through. I'm seriously questioning the MFC players here, all the talk about culture, supporting each other etc and then they snipe one of their own behind his back after suffering a significant trauma.

If Petracca had received approval for an extended mental health break, the details would remain confidential and not be disseminated among our playing group. It could then create envy and accusations of favouritism.

But I agree with you that it indicates low IQ/EI if they couldn't figure it out for themselves, although if he appeared in good spirits in his previous interactions with the players post-injury it may have confused some. 

If they were aware his leave was granted for mental health reasons, then his activities while on break - namely looking cheerful in sun and working on his side hustle - could have also created some antagonism. 

Especially if it was known he had previously complained about culture or professional standards, and then appeared to be off doing his own thing $$$ when he was already our highest-paid player and we were struggling on-field. 

Again, I largely agree with you. I think there has been a relationship breakdown among the group - and apparently not for the first time (although the last time worked out well in the end) - due to high levels of immaturity. 

This has always struck me as a feature of our squad, in part as a factor of their personalities, but also our general list profile, with many of our star players coming through together and being key from a young age.