On 29/08/2024 at 07:10, Lucifers Hero said:

Wasn't there another report of this meeting that Christian was there!  And there were hugs and handshakes all round.  It was reported the players understood his issues but they didn't know how to fix them ...

No that was at Max’s bar and in the afternoon. This was in Fitzroy

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:17, Deelectable said:

It's beyond laughable. Petracca is a certainty to play for the Dee's next season . Happy to take on all wagers to the contrary.  Cue crickets.

Odds ? Asking for a  friend

I guess the thing I am most perplexed and upset with in all this, is who the hell is leaking all the inner workings of the clubs exit meetings etc to the press?

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:21, DeeZee said:

I guess the thing I am most perplexed and upset with in all this, is who the hell is leaking all the inner workings of the clubs exit meetings etc to the press?

Who...and why 

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:13, Skuit said:

The beginning of her response to that question which you edited out I think is worth including, as it paints a clearer picture of the situation. It sounds like Petracca hasn't raised these particular gripes with the club, and there's only so much the club could have done at the time due to the private nature of healthcare. So she says the club needs to sit down and discuss the perceived shortcomings. If Petracca hasn't been willing to do so, then there's not much that can be done. She makes it clear elsewhere that she has indeed reached out to him, her door open. 

Did you do enough during the two weeks following his horrific injury?

Roffey: I’ve read some bits and pieces about this in the media. I have no idea where that information came from. I’ve no idea what specifically that is referring to, so I won’t comment on the specifics. What I will say is that when you’re in intensive care, you can’t pop in and visit. You get one person who’s allowed to come in. In terms of the medical care, you go into the system as a patient of the Victorian health system. And so we’re not in direct contact with him for medical care at that point in time, that’s happening through his doctors. And so we have to find out further down the line what’s happening, what’s required of us, what we need to do.

I left it out as I didn't think it was that relevant to what has most people dismayed ie the apparent lack of communication with the family while he was in ICU and its aftermath.

I mentioned in another post that I hope our doctors sought feedback from the hospital medicos just to be aware of what was happening.  If they did they would have known he almost died on the operating table and that should have been passed on to our player welfare staff and the Roffey. 

As Andy Maher said, even if there are organisational processes in place a president is within their right to pick up the phone and say:  Here is my number, call me anytime.  Let me know if there is anything I can do. 

 

And so the Petracca saga rumbles on, damaging the club's image and everyone involved in the process.

Look a little deeper into the 2024 season and we find the following:

* Oliver: out of form all year and clearly playing injured by season's end.

* Smith: comment not permitted.

* Trade-in flop of the season: Schache (closely followed by Fullarton and McAdam).

* Performance levels: disastrously down.

* Already gone: Neal-Bullen.

* Departure rumours swirling: Pickett.

But Ms Roffey and the board apparently think all is well at the MFC.

What would a bad year look like then ?

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:20, At the break of Gawn said:

No that was at Max’s bar and in the afternoon. This was in Fitzroy

Thanks for clarifying ... not my part of town 😊

tap Gary Lyon on the shouder and get him as president. he will sort stuff out quick smart. I know he didnt want to do it early on but he may be a bit wiser and older now to take it on.

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:04, At the break of Gawn said:

So let me get this straight, the meeting at Gawn’s bar had someone from the public leak details and now this other casual drinks with players has been leaked. How dumb can you be?

The rustic Marion Wine Bar in Gertrude St, Fitzroy, was the scene for a peculiar little gathering of Melbourne players on Tuesday night.

Clearly, the players didn't seem to care - or they thought they couldn't be heard — by the table of serious football fans sitting at the next table.

The pleasant surprise seeing AFL players on a windy Tuesday night was one thing, their astonishment at what the players - clearly frustrated - were saying about Christian Petracca was another.

So much so, notes were taken.

Words such as "weird" were heard, and how Petracca's "weirdness" was accepted at Melbourne, but would not be accepted at another club.

or was it something like?

All this stuff in the media about Trac is weird? yep you don't hear weird stuff like this about other players at other clubs

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:09, Superunknown said:

Where is this from? Is there more?

Just a snippet from Robbo’s article. The only other bit was one of the players saying “I hope Lamby doesn’t stuff up the trade deal”

  On 29/08/2024 at 04:14, Ungarieboy said:

How many presidents (of organisations/companies) or CEO's contact general staff for injury, trauma, we'll being etc.  I've gone through a traumatic ordeal in the last couple of years far far greater than what he's been through and only my boss reached out to provide support.  

And by boss I mean direct manager, and their boss; not the top tier executive!

I can't answer to "how many" but I can give personal experience.  I work for an organisation of about 100 people.  On several occasions when I have had issues (death of a family member, health, etc) our CEO has personally contacted me to express concern, sent a gift, that sort of thing.  Maybe that's uncommon.  Now it wasn't the chair of our board.  I have no idea who is even on our board.  We don't have a President so ... who knows ... but someone who is interested in staff and has good support from HR can clearly get the job done.  Dare I say it?  It would have to be part of the Culture.

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:04, At the break of Gawn said:

So let me get this straight, the meeting at Gawn’s bar had someone from the public leak details and now this other casual drinks with players has been leaked. How dumb can you be?

The rustic Marion Wine Bar in Gertrude St, Fitzroy, was the scene for a peculiar little gathering of Melbourne players on Tuesday night.

Clearly, the players didn't seem to care - or they thought they couldn't be heard — by the table of serious football fans sitting at the next table.

The pleasant surprise seeing AFL players on a windy Tuesday night was one thing, their astonishment at what the players - clearly frustrated - were saying about Christian Petracca was another.

So much so, notes were taken.

Words such as "weird" were heard, and how Petracca's "weirdness" was accepted at Melbourne, but would not be accepted at another club.

At least he didn't start with the 'we'll start with the WHHHOOOO!'

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by Norm Smith's Curse

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:23, Lucifers Hero said:

I left it out as I didn't think it was that relevant to what has most people dismayed ie the apparent lack of communication with the family while he was in ICU and its aftermath.

I mentioned in another post that I hope our doctors sought feedback from the hospital medicos just to be aware of what was happening.  If they did they would have known he almost died on the operating table and that should have been passed on to our player welfare staff and the Roffey. 

As Andy Maher said, even if there are organisational processes in place a president is within their right to pick up the phone and say:  Here is my number, call me anytime.  Let me know if there is anything I can do. 

 

luci, i'm not sure "he almost died on the operating table" is really accurate.

this is a major operation where there is always a possibility of death

it is also true that without an operation he would bleed out and die

we would need to know the the exact words used and the context

i've had 2 major operations where i could have theoretically died but i never "almost died on the operating table" despite the possibility.

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:24, Tracca said:

tap Gary Lyon on the shouder and get him as president. he will sort stuff out quick smart. I know he didnt want to do it early on but he may be a bit wiser and older now to take it on.

Keep Gary away from the club.. his record whenever he gets involved has been atrocious 

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:32, Oxdee said:

Keep Gary away from the club.. his record whenever he gets involved has been atrocious 

Neeld says hi

Lots of jumping to conclusions here without the full story. When I listen to the Roffey interview re Petracca I hear someone with their hands tied and not being able to say what she perhaps could. She's presidential enough to know not to say "Christian's being a prima donna".

My overall read is that the club is bending over backwards to not portray Trac as the fill-in-the-dots that he is as it would bury everyone, Trac and the club. In the meantime, the club and its staff become the punching bag.

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:23, Lucifers Hero said:

I left it out as I didn't think it was that relevant to what has most people dismayed ie the apparent lack of communication with the family while he was in ICU and its aftermath.

As Andy Maher said, even if there are organisational processes in place a president is within their right to pick up the phone and say:  Here is my number, call me anytime.  Let me know if there is anything I can do. 

 

But we have no idea if she did or didn't. Roffey herself doesn't seem to know what the complaints refer to, but notably made the point that only one person is allowed in the ICU and that the club was out of the immediate loop as to his personal healthcare, which is private by nature - including as to our own club doctors.  

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:32, daisycutter said:

luci, i'm not sure "he almost died on the operating table" is really accurate.

this is a major operation where there is always a possibility of death

it is also true that without an operation he would bleed out and die

we would need to know the the exact words used and the context

i've had 2 major operations where i could have theoretically died but i never "almost died on the operating table" despite the possibility.

There was an article reported in this thread somewhere where the family took a call from the surgeon along those lines.

I think it has been widely reported that he nearly lost his life.

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by Lucifers Hero

  On 12/08/2024 at 08:28, Demon Jack said:

So potentially within the span of 12 months

Brayshaw - retired

Oliver - linked to Adelaide 

Viney - linked to North

Petracca - possibly requesting a trade

What the bleep has happened to this football club?

You've used "potentially" and "possibly" within that.  Let's go with what we know, shall we?

Oliver had a brain fart and was shopped.

Brayshaw was out of the control of the club.

Within the week of Viney being linked to North, he signed a contract (which was months in negotiation, as they all are)

Trac...well, it looks like Captain Petulance wants more IG followers or thinks he should get the same attention as Clarry (or more)...but, again, thats not a known!

 

  On 29/08/2024 at 05:14, Oxdee said:

She is completely useless.. get rid of her. How on earth hasn’t she checked in with petracca for a few months???? He is your number 1 player who is on the sidelines for an extended time. Schedule a call with him every few weeks to make sure he is ok. Complete incompetence.

HEADS NEED TO ROLE!!!!

Equivalent of a workplace injury, near fatality and she's made zero contact and really isn't across the situation. 

Pathetic. 

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:23, Lucifers Hero said:

If they did they would have known he almost died on the operating table

I know that this has legs, but I'd question if that's the case in medical terms. Yes, you can die from a ruptured spleen if it's serious enough and you don't get the right medical care. But from all that we know, that doesn't seem to be the case here.

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:35, Lucifers Hero said:

There was an article reported in this thread somewhere where the family took a call from the surgeon along those lines.

I think it has been widely reported that he nearly lost his life.

ok, we'll leave it that

Any one else feel like we are going to get a Foxfooty version of “The Decision” ala Lebron when Trac finally decides to talk.

This is so horrible our club is in free fall and I don’t think there is a way to fix it 

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by GCDee
Typo

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:44, daisycutter said:

ok, we'll leave it that

which is wise, because we know bugger-all.  eg, 'an article in this thread somewhere' saying x., where x may be a report of a rumour somewhere else.  Clearly there are serious issues, but I find it hard to hang anyone on the basis of the little I actually know (as distinct from speculate).

  On 29/08/2024 at 07:32, daisycutter said:

luci, i'm not sure "he almost died on the operating table" is really accurate.

this is a major operation where there is always a possibility of death

it is also true that without an operation he would bleed out and die

we would need to know the the exact words used and the context

i've had 2 major operations where i could have theoretically died but i never "almost died on the operating table" despite the possibility.

Very true Daisy. It's a highly emotional issue and it's easy to jump to conclusions, especially with 10,000 media 'exclusives' being released