Christian Petracca

[Whispering_Jack 29,075]

5 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

I’m just wondering whether there’s a transcript of this interview available so that people can verify what is being attributed to Kate Roffey in the conversation?

An example is the blanket claim that she hasn’t spoken with Christian since he was injured on King’s Birthday. She does say during the interview that she hasn’t spoken to him on the specific subject of whether he wants to leave the club but she also says the following (at 9:21) -

“Any time. Christian is clear. I’ve said to him, any time he wants to talk to me, any time he wants me to come to a meeting (I’m) very happy to do so …”

That suggests that she has spoken with him at some time recently. 

There are a number of other matters discussed in the interview that have been relayed in this thread and elsewhere that don’t seem to match what Roffey is saying and which leads to an incorrect interpretation of the conversation.

A full transcript might be helpful in this respect because I’m fearful that some conclusions being drawn both here and outside are not based on what she really said in the interview.
 

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4 hours ago, JJJ said:

 I wonder if one of the AFLW girls was in ICU. Would she wait 2-3 months to talk with the player and family? 

This was my first thought this morning as i was listening live

Nearly choked on that first Cuppa….

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9 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

That is on my train line and I might see if I can go. Think of awkward questions I can ask. 

You leave Clarry alone! 

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1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

You leave Clarry alone! 

I'm seriously thinking about going. 

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4 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

 

A full transcript might be helpful in this respect because I’m fearful that some conclusions being drawn both here and outside are not based on what she really said in the interview.
 

The fact that we need a transcript to work out what she was saying, speaks to how poorly she was saying it.

I understand that public speaking and media is not for everyone, but it needs to be bread and butter for a president of football club.
She comes across as completely unprepared, as if she didn't think they would ask her 100 questions about Trac.

The role of a leader is to instil confidence. Did anyone walk away from this interview feeling confident about anything other than the fact that we have a lot of problems?  

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1 minute ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

I'm seriously thinking about going. 

By all means go, but you better be nice to Clarry.

Don't need Monday's headline to read "Oliver asks for a trade. Not happy with the direction the club's supporters are heading in".  

[At the break of Gawn 4,400]

So let me get this straight, the meeting at Gawn’s bar had someone from the public leak details and now this other casual drinks with players has been leaked. How dumb can you be?

The rustic Marion Wine Bar in Gertrude St, Fitzroy, was the scene for a peculiar little gathering of Melbourne players on Tuesday night.

Clearly, the players didn't seem to care - or they thought they couldn't be heard — by the table of serious football fans sitting at the next table.

The pleasant surprise seeing AFL players on a windy Tuesday night was one thing, their astonishment at what the players - clearly frustrated - were saying about Christian Petracca was another.

So much so, notes were taken.

Words such as "weird" were heard, and how Petracca's "weirdness" was accepted at Melbourne, but would not be accepted at another club.

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9 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I’m just wondering whether there’s a transcript of this interview available so that people can verify what is being attributed to Kate Roffey in the conversation?

An example is the blanket claim that she hasn’t spoken with Christian since he was injured on King’s Birthday. She does say during the interview that she hasn’t spoken to him on the specific subject of whether he wants to leave the club but she also says the following (at 9:21) -

“Any time. Christian is clear. I’ve said to him, any time he wants to talk to me, any time he wants me to come to a meeting (I’m) very happy to do so …”

That suggests that she has spoken with him at some time recently. 

There are a number of other matters discussed in the interview that have been relayed in this thread and elsewhere that don’t seem to match what Roffey is saying and which leads to an incorrect interpretation of the conversation.

A full transcript might be helpful in this respect because I’m fearful that some conclusions being drawn both here and outside are not based on what she really said in the interview.
 

I agree, people have jumped to conclusions.

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Pretty close to a full/much of the transcript here:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/demons-president-admits-she-hasn-t-spoken-to-petracca-about-his-grievances-20240829-p5k6b4.html

As usual we don't know the full story (and shouldn't expect to). For example, if she hasn't spoken to him, it could be that others who have done so told her she shouldn't or no need for whatever reason.

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5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

The fact that we need a transcript to work out what she was saying, speaks to how poorly she was saying it.

I understand that public speaking and media is not for everyone, but it needs to be bread and butter for a president of football club.
She comes across as completely unprepared, as if she didn't think they would ask her 100 questions about Trac.

The role of a leader is to instil confidence. Did anyone walk away from this interview feeling confident about anything other than the fact that we have a lot of problems?  

Yes even if she made it clear later that she has been in regular contact it came across at the start the she had not

Edited August 29 by Norm Smith's Curse

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1 minute ago, At the break of Gawn said:

So let me get this straight, the meeting at Gawn’s bar had someone from the public leak details and now this other casual drinks with players has been leaked. How dumb can you be?

The rustic Marion Wine Bar in Gertrude St, Fitzroy, was the scene for a peculiar little gathering of Melbourne players on Tuesday night.

Clearly, the players didn't seem to care - or they thought they couldn't be heard — by the table of serious football fans sitting at the next table.

The pleasant surprise seeing AFL players on a windy Tuesday night was one thing, their astonishment at what the players - clearly frustrated - were saying about Christian Petracca was another.

So much so, notes were taken.

Words such as "weird" were heard, and how Petracca's "weirdness" was accepted at Melbourne, but would not be accepted at another club.

Or you know, it could just be people making up absolute [censored], going to the media, and the media is lapping it up.

From everything I've heard that the players are saying about Trac, "weird" is definitely not an adjective that's being used. 

But hey, at least nobody set anything on fire. 

[Superunknown 4,046]

5 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

So let me get this straight, the meeting at Gawn’s bar had someone from the public leak details and now this other casual drinks with players has been leaked. How dumb can you be?

The rustic Marion Wine Bar in Gertrude St, Fitzroy, was the scene for a peculiar little gathering of Melbourne players on Tuesday night.

Clearly, the players didn't seem to care - or they thought they couldn't be heard — by the table of serious football fans sitting at the next table.

The pleasant surprise seeing AFL players on a windy Tuesday night was one thing, their astonishment at what the players - clearly frustrated - were saying about Christian Petracca was another.

So much so, notes were taken.

Words such as "weird" were heard, and how Petracca's "weirdness" was accepted at Melbourne, but would not be accepted at another club.

Where is this from? Is there more?

[At the break of Gawn 4,400]

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

Or you know, it could just be people making up absolute [censored], going to the media, and the media is lapping it up.

From everything I've heard that the players are saying about Trac, "weird" is definitely not an adjective that's being used. 

But hey, at least nobody set anything on fire. 

Goes without saying though, players shouldn’t be discussing this in public. Hopefully they’re not that stupid.

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1 hour ago, forever demons said:

Dont think he owns any big boy pants yet Ethan

They must cost more than $1.7mill

[Lucifers Hero 38,865]

4 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

So let me get this straight, the meeting at Gawn’s bar had someone from the public leak details and now this other casual drinks with players has been leaked. How dumb can you be?

The rustic Marion Wine Bar in Gertrude St, Fitzroy, was the scene for a peculiar little gathering of Melbourne players on Tuesday night.

Clearly, the players didn't seem to care - or they thought they couldn't be heard — by the table of serious football fans sitting at the next table.

The pleasant surprise seeing AFL players on a windy Tuesday night was one thing, their astonishment at what the players - clearly frustrated - were saying about Christian Petracca was another.

So much so, notes were taken.

Words such as "weird" were heard, and how Petracca's "weirdness" was accepted at Melbourne, but would not be accepted at another club.

Wasn't there another report of this meeting that Christian was there!  And there were hugs and handshakes all round.  It was reported the players understood his issues but they didn't know how to fix them ...

[daisycutter 29,259]

robbo is right about one thing - this whole saga is definitely w e i r d 

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Just now, At the break of Gawn said:

Goes without saying though, players shouldn’t be discussing this in public. Hopefully they’re not that stupid.

For sure and I would think they would have forked out for a private area anyway. 
 

[Skuit 9,876]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I had mixed feelings to this part of the interview.

From The Age:

Did you do enough during the two weeks following his horrific injury? 

'.........So I’m not sure, again, as I say in the media, a lot of this rhetoric around not enough was done, we need to actually sit down and go, ‘What wasn’t done? What would you have liked to have been done? If we didn’t do enough, you know, we can work through that and apologise’. But I’m not entirely sure what the, I don’t believe it relates to medical care, is probably all I can comment on."

The beginning of her response to that question which you edited out I think is worth including, as it paints a clearer picture of the situation. It sounds like Petracca hasn't raised these particular gripes with the club, and there's only so much the club could have done at the time due to the private nature of healthcare. So she says the club needs to sit down and discuss the perceived shortcomings. If Petracca hasn't been willing to do so, then there's not much that can be done. She makes it clear elsewhere that she has indeed reached out to him, her door open. 

Did you do enough during the two weeks following his horrific injury?

Roffey: I’ve read some bits and pieces about this in the media. I have no idea where that information came from. I’ve no idea what specifically that is referring to, so I won’t comment on the specifics. What I will say is that when you’re in intensive care, you can’t pop in and visit. You get one person who’s allowed to come in. In terms of the medical care, you go into the system as a patient of the Victorian health system. And so we’re not in direct contact with him for medical care at that point in time, that’s happening through his doctors. And so we have to find out further down the line what’s happening, what’s required of us, what we need to do.

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5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

robbo is right about one thing - this whole saga is definitely w e i r d 

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22 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Paywall so can’t read the article but what is the context behind him saying ‘odds of playing next year are better than they were a week ago?’… I was under the impression the exact opposite was the case?

It's beyond laughable. Petracca is a certainty to play for the Dee's next season . Happy to take on all wagers to the contrary.  Cue crickets.

[At the break of Gawn 4,400]

9 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Wasn't there another report of this meeting that Christian was there!  And there were hugs and handshakes all round.  It was reported the players understood his issues but they didn't know how to fix them ...

No that was at Max’s bar and in the afternoon. This was in Fitzroy

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3 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

It's beyond laughable. Petracca is a certainty to play for the Dee's next season . Happy to take on all wagers to the contrary.  Cue crickets.

Odds ? Asking for a  friend

[DeeZee 7,296]

I guess the thing I am most perplexed and upset with in all this, is who the hell is leaking all the inner workings of the clubs exit meetings etc to the press?

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Just now, DeeZee said:

I guess the thing I am most perplexed and upset with in all this, is who the hell is leaking all the inner workings of the clubs exit meetings etc to the press?

Who...and why 

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1 minute ago, Skuit said:

The beginning of her response to that question which you edited out I think is worth including, as it paints a clearer picture of the situation. It sounds like Petracca hasn't raised these particular gripes with the club, and there's only so much the club could have done at the time due to the private nature of healthcare. So she says the club needs to sit down and discuss the perceived shortcomings. If Petracca hasn't been willing to do so, then there's not much that can be done. She makes it clear elsewhere that she has indeed reached out to him, her door open. 

Did you do enough during the two weeks following his horrific injury?

Roffey: I’ve read some bits and pieces about this in the media. I have no idea where that information came from. I’ve no idea what specifically that is referring to, so I won’t comment on the specifics. What I will say is that when you’re in intensive care, you can’t pop in and visit. You get one person who’s allowed to come in. In terms of the medical care, you go into the system as a patient of the Victorian health system. And so we’re not in direct contact with him for medical care at that point in time, that’s happening through his doctors. And so we have to find out further down the line what’s happening, what’s required of us, what we need to do.

I left it out as I didn't think it was that relevant to what has most people dismayed ie the apparent lack of communication with the family while he was in ICU and its aftermath.

I mentioned in another post that I hope our doctors sought feedback from the hospital medicos just to be aware of what was happening.  If they did they would have known he almost died on the operating table and that should have been passed on to our player welfare staff and the Roffey. 

As Andy Maher said, even if there are organisational processes in place a president is within their right to pick up the phone and say:  Here is my number, call me anytime.  Let me know if there is anything I can do.