Are we still talking about this? It's Tuesday night and I'm giving plasma, that was Saturday's issue. 

Life is more complicated than this. Sometimes you can't make it for all sorts of reasons or you don't live in the country or the state.

The problem I have is probably with the 5-10k or so that would normally attend that game in the past 3-4 years.

They are the bandwagon supporters that give most of us a bad name.

I was embarrassed by the crowd the other night and have copped it this week from mates that support Carlton and Essendon. 

We have a really good conversion of supporters to attendees and members, but like all clubs, we have some softies.

10 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

Life is more complicated than this. Sometimes you can't make it for all sorts of reasons or you don't live in the country or the state.

The problem I have is probably with the 5-10k or so that would normally attend that game in the past 3-4 years.

They are the bandwagon supporters that give most of us a bad name.

I was embarrassed by the crowd the other night and have copped it this week from mates that support Carlton and Essendon. 

We have a really good conversion of supporters to attendees and members, but like all clubs, we have some softies.

Seriously mate....who made you [censored] judge and jury..  It's just footy.  Life is a bit larger. Any of a myriad reasons folk may or might not attend.

Be accepting . It's great you go..  Others have and haven't . Unless you've ever sat in the artic conditions of waverley... go easy on the 'soft' .

We all do what we do for reasons often only relevant to the supporter.

By all means encourage attending  but don't shame others. Good way to [censored] good people off.

Go Dees

7 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Seriously mate....who made you [censored] judge and jury..  It's just footy.  Life is a bit larger. Any of a myriad reasons folk may or might not attend.

Be accepting . It's great you go..  Others have and haven't . Unless you've ever sat in the artic conditions of waverley... go easy on the 'soft' .

We all do what we do for reasons often only relevant to the supporter.

By all means encourage attending  but don't shame others. Good way to [censored] good people off.

Go Dees

Did you actually read my post?

23 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

I was embarrassed by the crowd the other night and have copped it this week from mates that support Carlton and Essendon. 

Ask them if they had been born the last time their team won a flag.

15 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

Life is more complicated than this. Sometimes you can't make it for all sorts of reasons or you don't live in the country or the state.

The problem I have is probably with the 5-10k or so that would normally attend that game in the past 3-4 years.

They are the bandwagon supporters that give most of us a bad name.

I was embarrassed by the crowd the other night and have copped it this week from mates that support Carlton and Essendon. 

We have a really good conversion of supporters to attendees and members, but like all clubs, we have some softies.

It's a joke and I'm surprised how many people fobbed it off early in the thread with the attitude of 'I don't need to be there for the team to play well', I don't think crowds have a direct impact on performance but it's not about that. It's about sustaining the club and helping it stay healthy off the field for years to come. It was only 10 years ago when we were on our knees and hemorrhaging money like no-one' business the short memory of some people is incredible.

To the people don't give a rip about the embarrassing crowd on Sat night who also complain about still playing in Alice Springs, never getting a good fixture with prime time slots and always Sunday 4:40, having home games at Marvel in the past etc there is no such thing as a free lunch so either get on board or be happy with the above. 

Just now, Demonstone said:

Ask them if they had been born the last time their team won a flag.

Don't worry. I shared the video of the Essendon supporters slagging off their team to the Essendon ones and the Carlton ones were told they got 30k to the same game, but have 40k more members.

38 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

Did you actually read my post?

Why do you persist in pushing out the boat ?

If you dont think it's relevant stop quibling.

6 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Why do you persist in pushing out the boat ?

If you dont think it's relevant stop quibling.

What don't I think is relevant?

I think life is complex and football isn't everyone's priority.

But if you're the sort of supporter that goes in the good times and then jumps off when the going gets a bit tough, I don't have a lot of sympathy and I don't really care if I hurt your feelings.

I like the MFC supporters base.

Rarely Boo inappropriately, they have a good feel for the game, applaud great play from either team, knowledgeable of the rules, don't make ridiculous calls to the umpires, humble, happy, and many more virtues.

Would not want to be a supporter of Woods, Blues, Bombs, or Coasters. I don't know enough about the SA teams fans.

If getting big crowds turns us into similar packs of narcissistic fanatics it would diminish my joy of the game.

 Our suupport isn't perfect, though it's qualities are much better than many.

We are the type supporters base I like belonging to.

Go Dees

 

On 27/07/2024 at 22:38, Doug Reemer said:

16k at a Saturday Prime Time Home game.

I was there. If you weren’t whats your excuse? Want other clubs to respect us and stop saying we don’t turn up? Get off your [censored] and stick fat!

I like it that Melbourne supporters have lives outside football. Makes us one of the more sensible clubs; or rather, the least mad clubs.

I have supported the Dees since I was a kid and  a Trident member for the past 18 years. I have attended games in Darwin, Alice, Canberra and Sydney.

Whether I attend a particular game or not is dependent on a myriad of personal reasons 

I imagine our 60k plus members and however many supporters also do so for their own reasons. 

The generalised put down of those who chose ( for their own reasons) not to attend the game is arrogant and sanctimonious piffle 

Moralising about football attendance is absurd. There are endless reasons why supporters may or may not attend games and who are we to judge others we don't know. 

Media potshots regarding MFC game day attendance is an annual event that plays to a stereotype that is unsupported by the statistics. Ignore.  

Any ire from the low attendance should be directed at the AFL's scheduling. 

7 minutes ago, speed demon said:

Moralising about football attendance is absurd. There are endless reasons why supporters may or may not attend games and who are we to judge others we don't know. 

Media potshots regarding MFC game day attendance is an annual event that plays to a stereotype that is unsupported by the statistics. Ignore.  

Any ire from the low attendance should be directed at the AFL's scheduling. 

Third best.  Case closed.

16 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

But if you're the sort of supporter that goes in the good times and then jumps off when the going gets a bit tough, I don't have a lot of sympathy and I don't really care if I hurt your feelings.

I don’t judge folks for not attending matches for any reason… bar this *one.

When we’re not going well is the time the players need us there the most. If you can attend a match, any match, but don’t because you’re confident of a loss I won’t just judge, I’ll go all Chief Justice of the High Court on your @rse.

* I lied. There’s a second judge-worthy reason… people who can go to H&A matches but choose not to, but will move mountains to attend finals.

1 hour ago, speed demon said:

Moralising about football attendance is absurd. There are endless reasons why supporters may or may not attend games and who are we to judge others we don't know. 

Media potshots regarding MFC game day attendance is an annual event that plays to a stereotype that is unsupported by the statistics. Ignore.  

Any ire from the low attendance should be directed at the AFL's scheduling. 

You should have posted this on Day 1 of the thread and saved a lot of angst.

Surfing is how poor gws is and what a bleak future their players have missing out on playing regularly at the G.

I'm seriously sympathetic to those players and amazed more haven't left

19 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

I was embarrassed by the crowd the other night and have copped it this week from mates that support Carlton and Essendon. 

Remind your Essendon mate that his team drew 14,463 against GWS in 2016. Under a closed roof as opposed to the arctic conditions we had to put up with.

 

3 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I don’t judge folks for not attending matches for any reason… bar this *one.

When we’re not going well is the time the players need us there the most. If you can attend a match, any match, but don’t because you’re confident of a loss I won’t just judge, I’ll go all Chief Justice of the High Court on your @rse.

* I lied. There’s a second judge-worthy reason… people who can go to H&A matches but choose not to, but will move mountains to attend finals.

Yep, that's the essence of what I've tried to articulate a few times and people get triggered.

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Remind your Essendon mate that his team drew 14,463 against GWS in 2016. Under a closed roof as opposed to the arctic conditions we had to put up with.

 

That Essendon 2016 team had 34 banned players and still beat us don't forget.

We got 8K against GWS at Marvel in 2015.

Every team has bad crowds, Collingwood drew 20K against Freo in 2016 on a cold saturday night. Does not mean we can ignore how bad last Saturday was and can worry about how bad Saturday against Port could be if we get rolled by the dogs.

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Remind your Essendon mate that his team drew 14,463 against GWS in 2016. Under a closed roof as opposed to the arctic conditions we had to put up with.

 

Remind your Essendon mate that he’s Essendon so nothing he says matters. 😂

22 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Seriously mate....who made you [censored] judge and jury..  It's just footy.  Life is a bit larger. Any of a myriad reasons folk may or might not attend.

Be accepting . It's great you go..  Others have and haven't . Unless you've ever sat in the artic conditions of waverley... go easy on the 'soft' .

We all do what we do for reasons often only relevant to the supporter.

By all means encourage attending  but don't shame others. Good way to [censored] good people off.

Go Dees

Waverly was a challenge.

I'm surprised at the numbers they actually got at times .

What a terrible location and design.

Perfect for the Dees supporters snowmobiles as the car park mud was a nightmare.

4 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Remind your Essendon mate that his team drew 14,463 against GWS in 2016. Under a closed roof as opposed to the arctic conditions we had to put up with.

 

Essendon have Dockers, Suns and Swans at home the next three weeks. Could be interesting to see how their crowds go now that they've been out of the top 4 for two whole weeks. I

It might hold up this weekend given they still have everything on the line, but a loss to the Dockers and their season is kaput. Essendon fans really don't turn up when it gets tough - their 2022 crowds included;

30k v Lions early in the season, then

25k v Crows

24k v Dockers

23k vs Suns

20k vs Port

 

 

 

I was on the tarmac of Shanghai airport listening to the final seconds. I firmly believe it is my fault we lost. 

2 hours ago, FearTheBeard said:

That Essendon 2016 team had 34 banned players and still beat us don't forget.

We got 8K against GWS at Marvel in 2015.

Every team has bad crowds, Collingwood drew 20K against Freo in 2016 on a cold saturday night. Does not mean we can ignore how bad last Saturday was and can worry about how bad Saturday against Port could be if we get rolled by the dogs.

All points taken, and I was aware that Essendon had a VfL side running around in the AFL that year.

And I agree with your last point that the crowd was a disgrace last Saturday night. Too many physically abled people probably preferred the lounge room fire and a glass of red as opposed to seeing their boys live at the G which is the best part of AFL footy.

The AFLs weekly crowd numbers are absolutely insane, and a symptom of a culture and history built around Victorians going to the footy. 

13k or whatever it was would be the envy of plenty of sporting codes across the globe