DubDee 26,669 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 I would love Kako to not receive a bid before our pick 9 That would mean they didn’t need to trade away pick 9 hilarious 2 1 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 1 minute ago, DubDee said: I would love Kako to not receive a bid before our pick 9 That would mean they didn’t need to trade away pick 9 hilarious Kinda like pies trading away pick 2 in anticipation of an early Daicos bid. They could have had Callaghan as well as Daicos. 2 1 Quote
BC_1718_DC 1,776 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, DubDee said: I would love Kako to not receive a bid before our pick 9 That would mean they didn’t need to trade away pick 9 hilarious The thought of that is a team would’ve bid on Kako if Essendon kept pick 9 but now because they traded it, teams don’t see the need. That’s the funny buggers teams usually play. Luckily this time it went to our advantage. We did have genuine interest in him though, it was just scuppered when they opened up the nga rules halfway through the season 🙄 2 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,365 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 A nice pictorial of Cal’s late mail Phantom Draft ~ 2 Quote
BC_1718_DC 1,776 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 5 minutes ago, Nascent said: Kinda like pies trading away pick 2 in anticipation of an early Daicos bid. They could have had Callaghan as well as Daicos. This sounds good but it’s not reality. A bid would’ve come for Daicos if Collingwood had kept their pick. Just like if Brisbane had an early pick tonight someone would’ve bid on Ashcroft earlier to make them pay up. Sounds funny and all, but once those picks get traded in anticipation of matching with later picks, teams aren’t as fussed to bid. 3 Quote
DubDee 26,669 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 8 minutes ago, 12345_54321 said: The thought of that is a team would’ve bid on Kako if Essendon kept pick 9 but now because they traded it, teams don’t see the need. That’s the funny buggers teams usually play. Luckily this time it went to our advantage. We did have genuine interest in him though, it was just scuppered when they opened up the nga rules halfway through the season 🙄 You could be right but Cal T had him at 14 on his form guide If not NGA involved, I'm not sure Kako would go top 10 So I will laugh at the bombers ;-) 1 Quote
Dr. Mubutu 867 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 (edited) 21 minutes ago, DubDee said: I would love Kako to not receive a bid before our pick 9 That would mean they didn’t need to trade away pick 9 hilarious Long-term, it means they don't weaken their draft hand for next year, but rather enhance it. Kako is essentially a first round pick this year, however if he wasn't bid on before pick 9, they'd only have 31 and 54, therefore taking their first pick next year into deficit. This way, they still get three first-round picks, albeit a slightly lesser one this year, plus a couple of picks in the 40's this year, as opposed to 2 picks in the 70's. It makes some sense, but next year you can trade out 2 years in the future. If MFC keep trading out future firsts, there's literally no downside for us. So while looking at it like this it seems a 'win-win', I'd much prefer to be in our position. Edit: Don't get me wrong, @DubDee, I'll also be laughing at Essendon Edited November 20, 2024 by Dr. Mubutu 2 Quote
DubDee 26,669 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 5 minutes ago, Dr. Mubutu said: Long-term, it means they don't weaken their draft hand for next year, but rather enhance it. Kako is essentially a first round pick this year, however if he wasn't bid on before pick 9, they'd only have 31 and 54, therefore taking their first pick next year into deficit. This way, they still get three first-round picks, albeit a slightly lesser one this year, plus a couple of picks in the 40's this year, as opposed to 2 picks in the 70's. It makes some sense, but next year you can trade out 2 years in the future. If MFC keep trading out future firsts, there's literally no downside for us. So while looking at it like this it seems a 'win-win', I'd much prefer to be in our position. I get all that, but the value of pick 9 in this draft is a lot to give away I'm with this guy: https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/11/20/absolutely-staggering-has-essendon-cost-themselves-a-star-player Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 Late bolter for pick 67 is Blangus Blayshaw, in case the AFL medical people ask, absolutely no relation to Gus. 5 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 Happy Draft day. Not long now 1 Quote
old55 23,860 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 1 hour ago, binman said: One phantom draft with two updates is three phantom drafts by my reckoning. Tomato, Tomatoe. And I didn't say twomey wasn't accurate - well at least in terms of the top 10. But if he is correct the hundred other phantom drafts with different selections are, by definition, wrong. https://www.afl.com.au/news/1066251 1 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 38 minutes ago, 12345_54321 said: This sounds good but it’s not reality. A bid would’ve come for Daicos if Collingwood had kept their pick. Just like if Brisbane had an early pick tonight someone would’ve bid on Ashcroft earlier to make them pay up. Sounds funny and all, but once those picks get traded in anticipation of matching with later picks, teams aren’t as fussed to bid. Dude, I'm making fun of Collingwood. You don't need to ruin it with facts 1 2 Quote
fr_ap 2,566 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 (edited) Put me firmly in the camp that says Lindsay will struggle at AFL level. His kicking is only good in space, and despite being touted in/out he's anything but - his contest work is poor and he's unnatural in contested situations. Wouldn't touch with pick 20 let alone 9. Might make an ok half back but never a mid. Edited November 20, 2024 by fr_ap 1 Quote
BW511 2,730 Posted November 20, 2024 Posted November 20, 2024 12 minutes ago, fr_ap said: Put me firmly in the camp that says Lindsay will struggle at AFL level. His kicking is only good in space, and despite being touted in/out he's anything but - his contest work is poor and he's unnatural in contested situations. Wouldn't touch with pick 20 let alone 9. Might make an ok half back but never a mid. I agree, his highlights don’t suggest he can do great work in close unless he’s got room to move. When he has space, his kicking is beautiful. That won’t happen as often at AFL level 3 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 On 19/11/2024 at 13:39, spirit of norm smith said: It’s a nervous time for young players, parents and families&friends. Good luck to all. It’s exciting and tense, and some may be disappointed. All are “Best guesses” with a strong top Round 1 group and a deep pool of talent this year. It’s a unique year imv. I have the Dees holding at picks 5 & 9. There’s likely to be some pick swaps throughout but the first round predictions with picks “as is” are: 1. Richmond. Sam Lalor. GWV 2.****Lions father son. Levi Ashcroft. Sandringham 3. North Melbourne. Alix Tauru. Gippsland 4. Carlton (via West Coast). Finn O’Sullivan . Oakleigh 5. Adelaide. Sid Draper. SA Sth Adelaide 6. Melbourne . Harvey Langford. Dandenong. 7. Richmond (via Gold Coast). Jagga Smith. Oakleigh. 8. ****Suns academy. Leonardo Lombard 9. St Kilda. Josh Smillie. Eastern 10. St Kilda (via Josh Battle compensation pick). Tobie Travaglia. Bendigo 11. Melbourne (via Essendon).Bo Allan. WA Peel 12. Richmond (via Fremantle) Xavier Lindsay. Gippsland 13.Richmond (via Fremantle, Collingwood) Jobe Shanahan. Bendigo 14. **** Ess NGA. Isaac Kako. Calder 15. West Coast (via Carlton) Taj Hotton. Sandringham 16. Port Adelaide (via Gold Coast, Western Bulldogs). Harry Armstrong . Sandringham 17. Fremantle (via Richmond, Hawthorn, Carlton). Joe Berry. Murray 18. Greater Western Sydney. Cooper Hynes . Dandenong 19. Greater Western Sydney (via Harry Perryman compensation pick). Murphy Reid. Sandringham 20. Western Bulldogs (via Geelong). Ollie Hannaford. GWV 21. **** Lions academy. Sam Marshall 22. Richmond (via Fremantle, Port Adelaide). Jack Whitlock. Murray . 23.****Blues father son. Ben Camporeale. SA. 24. Sydney. Luke Trainor. Sandringham 25. Richmond (via Brisbane). Alex Dodson. SA Sturt 26. Greater Western Sydney (via Isaac Cumming compensation pick). Hamish Davis. WA Claremont 27. Sydney (via North Melbourne). Matt Whitlock. Murray 28. Richmond (via Gold Coast, North Melbourne). Harrison Oliver. Sandringham predicting the longest first round ever!! Some likely 2nd rounders: Tom Gross - Oakleigh. Christian Moraes - Eastern. Kayle Gerryn - WA West Perth. Thomas Sims - Northern. Jonty Faull - GWV. Jesse Dattoli - Northern. Harry O'Farrell - Calder. Lachie Jacques - Geelong. Jack Ough - GWV. Angus Clarke - SA Glenelg. Jasper Alger. Oakleigh Josh Murphy - Murray. *** GWS Academy - Logan Smith Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA. *** Crows. Tyler Welsh SA WWT eagles. James Barrat - Bendigo. *** Sydney academy. Joel Cochran. Tate Delmenico SA WWT eagles. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo. Likely 3rd rounders: Clancy Dennis - WA Claremont Noah Mraz - Dandenong. *** Crows father son . Luke Camporeale. Glenelg Sam Davidson. RICHMOND VFL Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/ Tassie. Hugh Boxshall. WA Claremont Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh. *** Stk NGA. Adrian Cole. Sandringham. Dom Brew. Werribee VFL Riley Bice Werribee VFL. ***Port father son Louis Montgomery. SA Nth Adel. Ned Bowman. Norwood SA Xavier Ivisic Geelong *** West Coast NGA Malakai Champion. WA Subiaco. Josh Dolan. Sandringham Floyd Burmeister. GWV Will Hayes. WA Claremont. after this it’s seeing who might have draft picks available, or will pickup rookie opportunities or SSP train on spots. As with every year, there will be some very talented young footy players will miss out on getting on an AFL senior or rookie list. Potential for 4th round or more likely rookies: Charlie West SA WWT Eagles Phoenix Hargrave. SA Sth Adel Oliver Warburton. Murray. Jack Henderson. Werribee VFL. Luke Kennedy . Sandringham. Patrick Retschko. Oakleigh Oliver Depaoli-Kubank. Tassie Lucca Grego. Western. Kade Herbert. SA WWT eagles. *** Port Adel NGA. Benny Barrett.Sth Adel. SA Cody Angove. WA Claremont Zak Johnson. Northern. Jaxon Artemis- WA Sth Frem *** GWS academy. Cooper Bell. Nash King. Calder. Bailey McKenzie. Sandringham Aiden Riddle - WA. Claremont ** Dees. NGA Riak Andrew Dandenong Luke Urquhart. WA East Frem Damon Hollow. Calder *** Saints NGA. Lennox Hoffman. Sandringham. Rhys Unwin. GWV. Jett Hasting. SA WWT eagles. Mitch Kirkwood-Scott. Sandringham Blake Leidler. Oakleigh. Keighton Matofai-Forbes. Western. Harry Charlson. GWV ** GWS academy. Josaia Delana ** Haw NGA . Cody Anderson. Eastern. ** Ess NGA Jayden Nguyen Calder . ** Stk father son. Elwood Peckett ** Dees Father son Noah Yze. Oakleigh. **Dees NGA Ricky Mentha Gippsland Thought these youngsters were good enough to get drafted tonight. Tate Delmenico SA WWT eagles. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo. Clancy Dennis - WA Claremont Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/ Tassie. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh. Stk NGA. Adrian Cole. Sandringham. also honestly thought Brew and Henderson showed enough all year and in the VFL GF to earn a spot !!! Dom Brew. Werribee VFL Riley Bice Werribee VFL. 2 1 Quote
Supreme_Demon 4,134 Posted November 21, 2024 Posted November 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said: Thought these youngsters were good enough to get drafted tonight. Tate Delmenico SA WWT eagles. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo. Clancy Dennis - WA Claremont Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/ Tassie. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh. Stk NGA. Adrian Cole. Sandringham. also honestly thought Brew and Henderson showed enough all year and in the VFL GF to earn a spot !!! Dom Brew. Werribee VFL Riley Bice Werribee VFL. 2 Riley Bice got picked by Sydney I am guessing a few of the others will get picked up in the rookie draft tomorrow if they are lucky enough? 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted November 22, 2024 Posted November 22, 2024 14 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said: Riley Bice got picked by Sydney I am guessing a few of the others will get picked up in the rookie draft tomorrow if they are lucky enough? Thanks SD. yes missed that one. He looked very good and will be very handy for the Swans 😭 2 Quote
adonski 13,239 Posted November 24, 2024 Posted November 24, 2024 Didn't know where to post this, but always interesting to get some more behind the scenes footage of draft discussion, this time from the Giants. A very interesting tid bit towards the end, when Adrian Caruso was asked what they'd do if Berry, Lindsay, Whitlock (not sure which one) & Hotton slide, Caruso suggested the Giants would still select Cody Angrove (their pick 24) ahead of them. https://www.gwsgiants.com.au/video/1696834/inside-the-draft-night-one-strategy-meeting?videoId=1696834&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1732408728001 1 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,667 Posted November 24, 2024 Posted November 24, 2024 2 hours ago, adonski said: Didn't know where to post this, but always interesting to get some more behind the scenes footage of draft discussion, this time from the Giants. A very interesting tid bit towards the end, when Adrian Caruso was asked what they'd do if Berry, Lindsay, Whitlock (not sure which one) & Hotton slide, Caruso suggested the Giants would still select Cody Angrove (their pick 24) ahead of them. https://www.gwsgiants.com.au/video/1696834/inside-the-draft-night-one-strategy-meeting?videoId=1696834&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1732408728001 I love Caruso. He can be our list manager, JT can stay as our recruiting boss, Lamby we'll use elsewhere. They sure loved Hannaford and they clearly saw Angove as a need, chasing that speedy wingman. 1 Quote
adonski 13,239 Posted November 25, 2024 Posted November 25, 2024 13 hours ago, DeeSpencer said: I love Caruso. He can be our list manager, JT can stay as our recruiting boss, Lamby we'll use elsewhere. They sure loved Hannaford and they clearly saw Angove as a need, chasing that speedy wingman. Caruso too much ego to have faith in 2 1 Quote
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