Oliver Trade Rumours

[FreedFromDesire 797]

3 hours ago, He de mon said:

Be that as it may, I find it hard to believe Green would hose down the rumours if there was truth to them. The criticism of the club’s messaging, often justified, would go into overdrive if it does turn out to be true. 

Yes, true. As I mentioned earlier, I am pretty firm on the opinion that the club will not be trading Oliver this year. I'm more than happy for Brad or others from the club to keep stating that.

[FreedFromDesire 797]

3 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

I get your point, but someone needs to call out Sam McClure’s employers. It’s getting beyond responsible what he’s been allowed to “report” lately. 

I would certainly not be against McClure being held to account. As much as I may seem to be defending the media somewhat, he is one who I find quite often misleading or even completely dishonest in his reporting.

[FreedFromDesire 797]

3 hours ago, Mickey said:

I thought this too initially, but the more I think on it, the more I like it.

Yes, it was a throw away line from Lloyd, but that's not really how it's being reported. And if it was figurative, I don't mind if it means they have to correct themselves and be more literal, which would then become 'No, he hasn't cleaned out his locker because he's leaving.' Great, so what proof do you have he is still trying to get out. And I think the answer is none, or at least nothing new.

For the record, I'm not one of those who thinks this whole thing is a media beat up. But I do think the last couples days has been them trying to keep this alive. And if this shot from Green makes it harder, good on him

Yes, that is all fair. I probably skipped past Lloyd's actual statement in trying to clarify etc. I found the whole "people believe..." disclaimer pretty poor and quite wishy washy. That felt a lot like Lloyd editorialising on the spot without perhaps having the information or sources to back it up.

Also just to add, apologies for the many comments, I came home to a lot of responses and felt the need to reply to most.

[Demonland 70,685]

Hopefully Trac gets an internet connection back soon so he can like a Dees social media post. 

[Mickey 4,550]

3 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Also just to add, apologies for the many comments, I came home to a lot of responses and felt the need to reply to most.

I thought you were in a bit of a roll 😂

[Cosmic Baby 32]

Great idea- after we sue the Age newspaper, sue Geelong for draft tampering. 

[Superunknown 4,183]

5 minutes ago, Cosmic Baby said:

Great idea- after we sue the Age newspaper, sue Geelong for draft tampering. 

Sue them all, eh, @sue?! 

[whatwhat say what 22,347]

9 minutes ago, Cosmic Baby said:

Great idea- after we sue the Age newspaper, sue Geelong for draft tampering. 

sounds like a job for a former mfc president..?

[Satyriconhome 10,457]

44 minutes ago, mo64 said:

You are seriously not trying to compare the fitness levels of an AFL football with a Premier League goalkeeper?

No it is the age bit,  you can improve both fitness and skill level regardless of age, if your body allows you to. 

I have asked a couple of players about the end of season review they get, areas of improvement is blunt and to the point, up to the player to implement.

Obviously with Clarry, this was one of issues at the start of last season.

 

 

[Supreme_Demon 3,504]

4 hours ago, Demon_JB said:

Melbourne interim President Brad Green lays down the ultimate smack down on Social Media!

Clayton Oliver will remain a Demon!

[Satyriconhome 10,457]

56 minutes ago, mo64 said:

You are seriously not trying to compare the fitness levels of an AFL football with a Premier League goalkeeper?

No it is the age bit,  you can improve both fitness and skill level regardless of age, if your body allows you to. 

I have asked a couple of players about the end of season review they get, areas of improvement is blunt and to the point, up to the player to implement.

Obviously with Clarry, this was one of issues at the start of last season.

 

Whoops not sure why this is there twice. MODS if you can delete please

Edited 2 hours ago by Satyriconhome

[waynewussell 5,049]

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

No it is the age bit,  you can improve both fitness and skill level regardless of age, if your body allows you to. 

I have asked a couple of players about the end of season review they get, areas of improvement is blunt and to the point, up to the player to implement.

Obviously with Clarry, this was one of issues at the start of last season.

 

 

Saty, I'm pleased to see your back in business here. I don't have to agree with everything you say, but I appreciate your passion and your training reports. Your point of view is worthy of consideration and respect.

[The heart beats true 17,940]

29 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Hopefully Trac gets an internet connection back soon so he can like a Dees social media post. 

I legitimately think Clayton is just trolling the world now, and it’s hilarious.

[Satyriconhome 10,457]

I can't remember which topic I posted this in, but I lodged an integrity complaint with the AFL about the condoning ie allowing Damian Barrett to undermine the club on their website, including calling Tim Lamb a liar.

I got a reference number but as yet I have not received a reply, so I followed it up with an email to Andrew Dillon. Going to give him a couple of days before I follow up again.

If anyone else feels strongly enough about the treatment the club is receiving on the website from so called journalists, his email is easy

[email protected]

 

 

 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,939]

9 hours ago, waynewussell said:

Not his call!

No one said it is. It's his opinion. And it happens to be correct.

Edited 1 hour ago by Dr. Gonzo

[BDA 22,463]

I reckon we all need to take a chill pill.

The media will keep pushing this story until trade period closes. They need to generate content and the Clarry story is manna from heaven for them.

I reckon we’ll trade if we can get his full salary off the books and a future first. I very much doubt Geelong will stump up so Clarry will stay a demon. I could be wrong of course just my opinion.

He won’t be the first player that wanted to be traded but had to stay put. We’ll integrate back into the group and get on with it. Do our best with him and hope we can manage his behavioural problems. If he produces another season of mediocrity next year, then we’ll just have to cut our losses at that point and move on.

[DeeZone 9,216]

2 hours ago, SthSea22 said:

Mate his behaviour off field has escalated massively. Can't powder coat it anymore. 

He will never be the same and if Geelong a stupid enough, then let him go for SDK

So you say SthSea22, where and when did you witness Clayton’s deteriorating behaviour, what did he do, what are MFC powder coating. What did you see and hear from Clayton?? Or are you an exaggerator wanting to impose your thoughts onto the Best Mid Fielder that I have ever seen in the Red & Blue. Character assassination comes easy to some without the necessity of proof or substantive evidence.
 

Personally I wouldn’t ever Trade with Geeelong again and if GWS  don’t treat us with respect and fairness I would let them know that we won’t be so easy to work with in the future.

[Matt Demon 1,408]

43 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Hopefully Trac gets an internet connection back soon so he can like a Dees social media post. 

Trac hasn't liked anything Demon related for a while now. 

[Moonshadow 17,637]

1 hour ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Ive heard he cleaned out said locker due to old socks smelling. 

I heard the story of a Melb CBD university clearing out an entire seven story building due to a 'gas leak' only for the fire brigade to discover it was a durian fruit left in a locker by an international student

[DubDee 24,869]

8 minutes ago, Matt Demon said:

Trac hasn't liked anything Demon related for a while now. 

He has people to like posts on social media 

wish i had people 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,939]

9 hours ago, daisycutter said:

definitely not his call, whether one thinks he's right or not

on top of this, this report is on the afl official web site and barrett is employed and writing for the afl

so what is the afl's responsibility in this? if i was the club i would be making a strong complaint to the afl

We didn't even complain when one of our players was knocked into oblivion and forced to retire and you think we're gonna complain because a journo wrote something mean about us on the AFL website?

[DiscoStu17 697]

8 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

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Personally I wouldn’t ever Trade with Geeelong again and if GWS  don’t treat us with respect and fairness I would let them know that we won’t be so easy to work with in the future.

Yes. They need to stop behaving like [censored] holes.
Everyone has an obligation to hold people to account for their [censored]-wittery. 

I don’t care if they are trying to get some sort of Dodoro perpetual trophy for the most [censored] behaviour - make it an absolute nightmare for all managers to deal with them.

Wouldn’t surprise me if they routinely drove on the wrong side of the road. 

[waynewussell 5,049]

27 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

No one said it is. It's his opinion. And it happens to be correct.

Not an opinion at all... It's a recommendation! A demand! An opinion would go like this... "I think Pert has taken a stand that would raise questions about his ability to handle the current media onslaught regarding his management style"

[Dr. Gonzo 23,939]

1 minute ago, waynewussell said:

Not an opinion at all... It's a recommendation! A demand! An opinion would go like this... "I think Pert has taken a stand that would raise questions about his ability to handle the current media onslaught regarding his management style"

"Whatever the outcome, this club cannot continue with Gary Pert as CEO."

That's opinion.

[adonski 11,101]

Hearing from an excellent source that Clarry has requested a trade from Geelong to Melbourne