Oliver Trade Rumours

[Axis of Bob 11,687]

"Oliver has cleaned out his locker ...."

From this statement alone you already know this isn't true.

[Demonland 71,624]

We're going to end up getting nothing of value for him. At one time you could have got 3 first rounders as a starting point.

Heads have to roll.

[BLWNBA 928]

1 minute ago, KozzyCan said:

Examples?

Pert told her so. 

[mo64 5,853]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Honestly, just be done with it and trade him. Grab a future first rounder and a 2nd round draft pick and move on. 

Cannot put up another 12 months of Oliver distraction and noise on top of his ongoing behaviour that we still have to manage.

But Oliver told a drunken nuffie at the BnF that he loves the club, and would never leave unless shown the door.

[The Taciturn Demon 471]

1 minute ago, Axis of Bob said:

"Oliver has cleaned out his locker ...."

Genuinely extraordinary. 

[KozzyCan 764]

6 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

This is Matthew Lloyd, not Sam McClure for once.

This is Lloyd regurgitating McClure's articles. When Oliver requests a trade it will be on, but until then it's still where the club left it at the BnF.

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1 hour ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

You could ask AI to write a vicious parody of Sliding Doors and it would come up with something more insightful and coherent than the column itself. 

Something like

"If the Dees tried to shut down the Clarry talk

THEN

"Me and Sam Mac ain't gonna let them!"
 

Lets face it, thats more valuable than the rest of his bit.  I have no idea if they have inside information or not. But that is EXACTLY what they are banking on. We don't know that they don't know either. 

Clarry might want to leave, he might not, who bloody knows on this forum.  Only thing I *believe* we can be sure of is that Clarry's mum is mad that people think that his home town is Shepparton, and that he is currently there! 

[Katrina Dee Fan 3,340]

3 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Examples?

Read through the thread, I'm not a parrot and I'm not in the mood to repeat myself over and over again.  You're capable of scrolling and reading my responses to the numerous times I've been asked that.

[demoniac 1,330]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Honestly, just be done with it and trade him. Grab a future first rounder and a 2nd round draft pick and move on. 

Cannot put up another 12 months of Oliver distraction and noise on top of his ongoing behaviour that we still have to manage.

Grab a future first rounder and a 2nd round draft pick and clean air and move on. Oliver takes a pay cut to whatever Cats want to pony up.

Hopefully Oliver continues to address his non football issues and can get back to somewhere near his best. Hopefully.

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1 hour ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Yes I do.  I don't believe absolutely everything reported in the media, but I find the head in the sand approach from many of our supporters currently quite strange. 

hey... don't go to the US.  They have aliens that eat cats, dogs and ducks. Oh, and their politicians control the weather

FACT DUDE!

[Supreme_Demon 3,754]

I am starting to get sick of these rumours.

I am backing in what our interim President Brad Green has said.

Clayton Oliver is contracted and will be staying.

It is the CEO Gary Pert that needs to be sacked for all of this.

 

[DubDee 25,671]

I would personally clean out my locker at the end of the season, just to come back to a nice, clean one for the start of preseason

Could this just be a simple misunderstanding?

lol

[KozzyCan 764]

Just now, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Read through the thread, I'm not a parrot and I'm not in the mood to repeat myself over and over again.  You're capable of scrolling and reading my responses to the numerous times I've been asked that.

I've been reading the thread on and off, I must have missed the examples you're talking about.

That being said a lot of people mistake a situation changing for a journo getting it wrong. For example the Petracca story which was very real and Morris was spot on despite the club eventually holding Petracca to contract.

I would say Sam Mclure has a much worse strike rate than Morris. An obvious example being his West Coast/Reid call. So I take his reporting with a massive grain of salt but have generally found Morris to be pretty reliable even if he hedges his bets a bit.

[DubDee 25,671]

If Oliver desperately wanted out, he might want to start by requesting a trade

Can be helpful

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14 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

This is Matthew Lloyd, not Sam McClure for once.

Breaking news!

Matthew Lloyd has been seen in the changerooms of the MFC, soon to be announced as MFC new assistant coach.

[DubDee 25,671]

So we have 5 more days of the media re-circulating the Oliver rumours

Then on Thursday they will report how we are a shambles and handled this so poorly.

Meanwhile the club is literally doing nothing aside from say he is going nowhere

[Roost it far 8,186]

1 minute ago, DubDee said:

If Oliver desperately wanted out, he might want to start by requesting a trade

Can be helpful

 

I still think we’re holding him unless the Cats and his management can clear us of his salary and offer us 2 decent picks. It’s peanuts for him but this appears the current reality. 

[DubDee 25,671]

Just now, Roost it far said:

 

I still think we’re holding him unless the Cats and his management can clear us of his salary and offer us 2 decent picks. It’s peanuts for him but this appears the current reality. 

Could be.  But if Clarry requested a trade, that changes the dynamic and he would get to the Cats I believe

[demoniac 1,330]

1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

 

I still think we’re holding him unless the Cats and his management can clear us of his salary and offer us 2 decent picks. It’s peanuts for him but this appears the current reality. 

I suspect Connor Sports would be putting pressure on the Cats to agree to above.

[DubDee 25,671]

Breaking News - Harry Sharp cleaning out his locker at the Lions

He wanted to leave so he - requested a trade

And then got traded

Meanwhile Oliver is desperate to leave the rabble that is the Demons. Maybe he can't find the 'request a trade' form?

[mo64 5,853]

2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

If Oliver desperately wanted out, he might want to start by requesting a trade

Can be helpful

If it's true, then his manager would be monitoring any trade discussions between us and the Cats. No point in making his request public until both parties are close to reaching an agreement. It would be embarrassing for Oliver if he declares he wants out, and a trade couldn't be finalised.

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1 minute ago, demoniac said:

I suspect Connor Sports would be putting pressure on the Cats to agree to above.

Quite likely 

[RedFox 510]

9 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

 

I still think we’re holding him unless the Cats and his management can clear us of his salary and offer us 2 decent picks. It’s peanuts for him but this appears the current reality. 

They don't have two decent picks to offer. This years 1st Rounder will go to the Dogs for Smith, and a Future 1st will likely be a pick in the teens, an Future 2nd will likely be a pick in the 30s. 

There is no package of picks in their possession that will be sufficient. 

[Clintosaurus 7,838]

26 minutes ago, Demonland said:

We're going to end up getting nothing of value for him. At one time you could have got 3 first rounders as a starting point.

Heads have to roll.

That is what the Geelong compliant media are pushing for. 

[DubDee 25,671]

11 minutes ago, mo64 said:

If it's true, then his manager would be monitoring any trade discussions between us and the Cats. No point in making his request public until both parties are close to reaching an agreement. It would be embarrassing for Oliver if he declares he wants out, and a trade couldn't be finalised.

This is true but if a player is truely desperate to leave as has been reported then he can put us in a terrible spot by requesting a trade to the Cats

Publicly stating he wants to leave, will make it very hard for us to keep him.