Trade Targets

[Adam The God 29,941]

17 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Reality..

Trade Pick 5 out

Caleb Daniel

Jayden Laverde

Sam Day

 

We won't be trading pick 5. Take it to the bank.

We may well go for Daniel, and he might be handy for us. 

But I'm thinking more about mids and forwards that can improve our stoppage and forward half work.

That said, Daniel could improve our stoppage work as well.

I think the template should be a mixture of Port's 2018 draft where they brought in 3 talented youngsters, and then I also think we can use some older guys like Daniel and Wright.

Day would be a disaster and not make sense for our list at all, but I get you're being facetious.

[Colm 2,045]

I think we have to bring in a mature ruck I wonder if we could get Pittonet as part of the deal for Trac. 
If Trac goes to Carlton I think they will be a massive chance for the flag next year so most players that are under contract will be reluctant to leave and come to us. 
But if they tell Pittonet that TDK will be playing in front of him next year then maybe he could be convinced. 
Same goes for Cerra- if he’s told that Trac coming in means he won’t be getting a game then he may be more interest in a move. Not sure I want him but they could trade him out and get some capital in. 

[Young Angus 768]

3 hours ago, Adam The God said:

What are you talking about? He attracted Lever, May and Langdon, who were all vital pieces to the premiership puzzle.

TPP then can become a problem when you win a flag.

This is very true and back then it either at treat, but something isn’t right now and it needs to be dealt with. 

Very very happy to be proven wrong though

[Adam The God 29,941]

1 minute ago, Young Angus said:

This is very true and back then it either at treat, but something isn’t right now and it needs to be dealt with. 

Very very happy to be proven wrong though

I agree, we need changes, but not the coach.

[Young Angus 768]

4 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

I agree, we need changes, but not the coach.

I wonder when we will all actually find out the truth about what’s been going on and what has upset so many people. 

[DeeSpencer 25,332]

3 hours ago, Young Angus said:

Hawthorn also have a very good coach that seems to be very well liked and trusted by everyone. I’m sure that goes a long way. 
 

Now I love what Goody has done for the club and I know the players like him, but cmon let’s deal with the elephant in the room I just can’t see that kind of work being done by Goody like what Sam Mitchel has done to attract players and sell them success. Everyone knows what Goody will do, boring defensive game play, it needs to change big time because the dees supporters need this change to get interested again too!!

It’s very fun to just ignore than 2017/2018 Melbourne were exactly what this Hawthorn team was

[Adam The God 29,941]

26 minutes ago, Young Angus said:

I wonder when we will all actually find out the truth about what’s been going on and what has upset so many people. 

Take a look at all the re-signings and they wouldn't be re-signing if they didn't believe in Goody and get on with him.

Doesn't mean Goody can't get better though.

[Young Angus 768]

46 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Take a look at all the re-signings and they wouldn't be re-signing if they didn't believe in Goody and get on with him.

Doesn't mean Goody can't get better though.

I agree it is positive, just wouldn’t mind seeing some adaptive game plans and, perhaps some more exciting interesting fun watchable footy wouldn’t go astray. I’m sure he has it in him and occasionally we see something we like I guess. Perhaps patience is required from us fans 

[dazzledavey36 54,005]

4 hours ago, Adam The God said:

We won't be trading pick 5. Take it to the bank.

We may well go for Daniel, and he might be handy for us. 

But I'm thinking more about mids and forwards that can improve our stoppage and forward half work.

That said, Daniel could improve our stoppage work as well.

I think the template should be a mixture of Port's 2018 draft where they brought in 3 talented youngsters, and then I also think we can use some older guys like Daniel and Wright.

Day would be a disaster and not make sense for our list at all, but I get you're being facetious.

You need to pick up on sarcasm mate.. you are God after all!?

[Adam The God 29,941]

34 minutes ago, Young Angus said:

I agree it is positive, just wouldn’t mind seeing some adaptive game plans and, perhaps some more exciting interesting fun watchable footy wouldn’t go astray. I’m sure he has it in him and occasionally we see something we like I guess. Perhaps patience is required from us fans 

He's adaptable season to season, he's also coached the highest scoring team in the league before, so he knows how to coach offensively, it's just he rightly IMV, values defence more.

I think it's likely we'll shift towards the 2018 style next year. We could play the 2018 attacking style in the H&A season and go back to the defensive territory game in the finals if we make it.

[whatwhat say what 22,523]

3 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

He's adaptable season to season, he's also coached the highest scoring team in the league before, so he knows how to coach offensively, it's just he rightly IMV, values defence more.

I think it's likely we'll shift towards the 2018 style next year. We could play the 2018 attacking style in the H&A season and go back to the defensive territory game in the finals if we make it.

i think this year showed how hard it is to set up the core identity you want to have as a team from season to season, let alone in-season

i think we'll continue to evolve our game plan based upon our personnel

my biggest concern is that we are seemingly wanting to move to a more skill-based gameplan - much like everyone else in the competition - but without the players possessing the skillset to pull it off 

[DeeSpencer 25,332]

To fix the midfield we need experienced hard running bodies and depth.

To fix the flanks we need some speed and skill.

We might have to settle for players with deficiencies in areas but strength in their roles.

To fix the key forwards we really need an athletic tall who combines smartly leading up at the footy with mobility and size. If it’s not Waterman or McKay it’s a total gamble. I’d probably sign on for the Nathan Kreuger experience because there’s not much else out there.

Watching Werribee v Geelong. Parfitt playing a lot of forward. Not really getting a chance to push his case.

Riley Bice looks a half back destined for the AFL system. @dazzledavey36 surely will have seen plenty of him over the journey. 

[Adam The God 29,941]

14 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

i think this year showed how hard it is to set up the core identity you want to have as a team from season to season, let alone in-season

i think we'll continue to evolve our game plan based upon our personnel

my biggest concern is that we are seemingly wanting to move to a more skill-based gameplan - much like everyone else in the competition - but without the players possessing the skillset to pull it off 

I'd love to know what the players think.

I reckon they'd prefer the two options I proposed instead of the transition game.

IMV, it's much better to go against the grain.

Edited August 31 by Adam The God

[dazzledavey36 54,005]

10 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

To fix the midfield we need experienced hard running bodies and depth.

To fix the flanks we need some speed and skill.

We might have to settle for players with deficiencies in areas but strength in their roles.

To fix the key forwards we really need an athletic tall who combines smartly leading up at the footy with mobility and size. If it’s not Waterman or McKay it’s a total gamble. I’d probably sign on for the Nathan Kreuger experience because there’s not much else out there.

Watching Werribee v Geelong. Parfitt playing a lot of forward. Not really getting a chance to push his case.

Riley Bice looks a half back destined for the AFL system. @dazzledavey36 surely will have seen plenty of him over the journey. 

I certainly have and I know Melbourne are a number of clubs that are keeping a close eye on him.

Absolute gun.

[DeeSpencer 25,332]

And in the other channel 7 VFL game the first goal is kicked by Corey Ellison who looks a lot fitter and stronger than his Casey days. Not sure he’d be the answer to our key forward issues but he’s another who has a good case to be on a list especially with his versatility 

[dazzledavey36 54,005]

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

And in the other channel 7 VFL game the first goal is kicked by Corey Ellison who looks a lot fitter and stronger than his Casey days. Not sure he’d be the answer to our key forward issues but he’s another who has a good case to be on a list especially with his versatility 

He remains me a lot of Brody Mihocek was at Port Melbourne. 

[Roost it far 8,079]

On 28/08/2024 at 16:41, PaulRB said:

I'd say we've added Rivers, Tholthrop and potentially McVee to our midfield stocks this year... 

Darkest before the dawn i say :)

Rivers potential as a mid looks sound, McVee is nowhere near ready and is so accomplished at HB you’re robbing Peter to pay Paul. Tholstrup is also a fair way off. He has some solid attributes but he’s got a long long way to go. We desperately need Oliver’s best back to be the extractor along with Viney. We simply must get 2 “Windsor” level mids through the door this draft period. 

[Demonstone 22,156]

On 28/08/2024 at 16:41, PaulRB said:

I'd say we've added Rivers, Tholthrop and potentially McVee to our midfield stocks this year... 

Is that you, Caro?

[Nascent 9,046]

Wouldn't mind if we had a look at Seamus Mitchell from the Hawks who finds himself out of the team currently. Small defender with exceptional pace and impressed me on the limited times I've seen him play. Had some injury concerns early in his career but seems over it now and has played 24 games over the past two seasons. 22yrs old so a good age to come in and impact with some development behind him. Contracted until next year however.

[Demon Disciple 11,971]

12 hours ago, Adam The God said:

What are you talking about? He attracted Lever, May and Langdon, who were all vital pieces to the premiership puzzle.

TPP then can become a problem when you win a flag.

Goody has said many times that he wants the team to play a brand of footy the fans recognise and get behind.

We recognise it alright, but I seriously doubt the majority of supporters enjoy watching how we go about it.

[Travy14 1,901]

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Edited August 31 by Travy14

[Nascent 9,046]

Wonder if we will up our pursuit of Cumming with Houston committing to Port?

Port may not commit as much money and years with Houston staying and also trying to acquire Perryman.

We obviously wouldn't mind some HB re-inforcements and a better chance of best 22 gaurentee.

[Young Angus 768]

Still hopeful perhaps we can get a Waterman or Lynch, would be nice! 

[Young Angus 768]

What the heck are we doing about a backup ruck??

[spirit of norm smith 16,087]

11 hours ago, Nascent said:

Wouldn't mind if we had a look at Seamus Mitchell from the Hawks who finds himself out of the team currently. Small defender with exceptional pace and impressed me on the limited times I've seen him play. Had some injury concerns early in his career but seems over it now and has played 24 games over the past two seasons. 22yrs old so a good age to come in and impact with some development behind him. Contracted until next year however.

I agree. He’s a quality player and unlucky not to be getting regular footy.  Not sure MFC would offer an “automatic” inclusion though.  It’s going to be hard to shake players out of the hawks but they will face a player squeeze at the end of next year.  They will also find the $$$ tightening as they pay for guys like B$attle and B$arrass.  Also will see higher $$$ into others.  Get into Mitchell manager early that Dees are interested.