1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Have seen Ah Mu play twice this year and the kid is a beast. Absolute man child who's exactly a need for use being a forward ruckman.

Alot of water to go under the bridge obviously but even if they did bring back the ability to match bids back to 20+ we could still possibly end up in a Mac Andrew scenario.

 

Had a quick go at mapping out what the draft order looks like and used Rookie Me’s draft rankings to try and see how things are shaping up (player tiers, pick swaps, etc.).

Have tried to pair Academy & F/S players with their clubs so Ashcroft is ranked higher than he appears here (Lombard & Camporeale are actually pretty close to where their clubs would be selecting). Lots still to play out, but bolder the players that have caught my eye for various reasons.
 

1. North                              Smillie
2. Richmond                     O’Sullivan
3. WCE                              Luke Trainor
4. Adelaide                        Draper
5. Saints                            J. Smith
6. Hawks                             Moraes
7. GC                                   Lalor
8. GC (Dogs)                     Lombard (GC Acad)
9. Brisbane                        Levi (f/s)              
10. Melbourne                     M. Whitlock
11. Freo (Port)                     Marshall (BL Acad)/O’Farrell
12. Cats                                Gross
13. Giants                             M. Reid
14. Giants                             X Lindsay
15. Freo                                 Berry
16. Freo (Pies)                     Shanahan
17. Carl                                 B. Camporeale (f/s)
18. Syd                                  J Whitlock
19. Syd                                  Kako
20. GC                                   Hotton

On the Bubble:

Allan, Travaglia, Oliver, Mraz, Langford, Faull, Dodson

 

Edited June 25, 20241 yr by ChaserJ

8 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Had a quick go at mapping out what the draft order looks like and used Rookie Me’s draft rankings to try and see how things are shaping up (player tiers, pick swaps, etc.).

Have tried to pair Academy & F/S players with their clubs so Ashcroft is ranked higher than he appears here (Lombard & Camporeale are actually pretty close to where their clubs would be selecting). Lots still to play out, but bolder the players that have caught my eye for various reasons.
 

1. North                              Smillie
2. Richmond                     O’Sullivan
3. WCE                              Luke Trainor
4. Adelaide                        Draper
5. Saints                             Jagga
6. Hawks                             Moraes
7. GC                                   Lalor
8. GC (Dogs)                     Lombard (GC Acad)
9. Brisbane                        Levi (f/s)              
10. Melbourne                     M. Whitlock
11. Freo (Port)                     Marshall (BL Acad)/O’Farrell
12. Cats                                Gross
13. Giants                             M. Reid
14. Giants                             X Lindsay
15. Freo                                 Berry
16. Freo (Pies)                     Shanahan
17. Carl                                 B. Camporeale (f/s)
18. Syd                                  J Whitlock
19. Syd                                  Kako
20. GC                                   Allan

On the Bubble:

Travaglia, Oliver, Mraz, Langford, Faull, Dodson

 

Interesting that you have Whitlock going to us, noting the draft order will likely change anyway. He’s that 200cm ruck forward who is agile and good below his knees like a Luke Jackson. Will be interesting to see if he’s of interest to us.

9 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Interesting that you have Whitlock going to us, noting the draft order will likely change anyway. He’s that 200cm ruck forward who is agile and good below his knees like a Luke Jackson. Will be interesting to see if he’s of interest to us.

midfielder as preference, please

31 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Interesting that you have Whitlock going to us, noting the draft order will likely change anyway. He’s that 200cm ruck forward who is agile and good below his knees like a Luke Jackson. Will be interesting to see if he’s of interest to us.

Was purely based off RMDC’s power rankings, so not a mock draft, but Whitlock would be handy. Last week it would have been Lalor!

Outside of the current top 5, I’m a big fan of Murphy Reid & Toby Travaglia.

5 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Was purely based off RMDC’s power rankings, so not a mock draft, but Whitlock would be handy. Last week it would have been Lalor!

Outside of the current top 5, I’m a big fan of Murphy Reid & Toby Travaglia.

I quite liked the look of Oliver off the half back line.

For a midfielders draft, there are certainly a few talls developing that look like quality. 

Trainor, Shanahan, Faull, Whitlock brothers, J Murphy, O'Farrell, Mraz, Sims, Nicholls, Welsh could all be taken within the first 2 rounds imo.

Edited June 25, 20241 yr by Nascent

Midfielders should be the priority. We have lost Jordan, Harmes and Brayshaw in the last 12 months and should continue to develop extras.

Edited June 25, 20241 yr by Jibroni

40 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Midfielders should be the priority. We have lost Jordan, Harmes and Brayshaw in the last 12 months and should continue to develop extras.

Don't disagree, but we have holes all over the ground at the moment.

In two years time our tall department could look like

Ruck: Verrall

Fwd: JvR, Jefferson, Kentfield

Def: Lever, Turner (fwd?), Adams

Unknowns: Gawn (34), May (34) Petty (traded?), Fullarton (best 22/retained on list?)

I am assuming, but could be wrong,  that we will have lost all of T-Mac, Ben Brown, Tomlinson, Schache and KFW. We could see a steep drop off in performance in both May and Gawn although if anyone can play quality footy into mid 30s it's Gawn.

For arguments sake, if we remove Gawn, May and Petty from the best 22 equation in 2026 then we will have just two proven best 22 talls in Lever (30yrs) and JvR. Turner is showing promise and Jefferson is developing nicely at VFL level and should hopefully cementing himself in the side. Calls on Kentfield and Verrall are too early to make while Adams is worth developing but a way off looking AFL quality at this stage.

Trading talls in would be ideal but they come at a premium and nearly every club is after these players.

Edited June 25, 20241 yr by Nascent

Espn’s current draft rankings are up, there’s a good write up on Bo Allan on the site as well:

June 2024 Draft Power Rankings: Basketball prodigy has tough decision to make

I'd be going midfielders and looking to FA for KPBs.

MFC need mids, mids, mids

excluding father son and academy players allocated to the Suns, Giants, Swans, Lions

1st round mids - high quality 

Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh 

Josh Smillie - Eastern

Jagga Smith - Oakleigh 

Christian Moraes - Eastern

Sid Draper - Sth Adel 

1st round - good options at picks 9-14 

Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

Toby Travaglia - Bendigo

Tom Gross - Oakleigh 

Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland 

Sam Lalor - GWV

AFTER THESE TOP 10 AVAILABLE MIDS

others to look at outside the top 15-18 players in the draft are: (14 youngsters) 

Zak Johnson - Northern 

Nash King - Calder 

Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas 

Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 

Cody Anderson - Eastern 

Lucas McInerney - Northern 

Harvey Langford - Dandenong 

Damon Hollow - Calder 

Cooper Hynes - Dandenong 

Kade Herbert - SA eagles 

Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo 

Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie 

Bo Allan -WA

Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 

 

 

On 27/06/2024 at 19:20, spirit of norm smith said:

MFC need mids, mids, mids

excluding father son and academy players allocated to the Suns, Giants, Swans, Lions

1st round mids - high quality 

Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh 

Josh Smillie - Eastern

Jagga Smith - Oakleigh 

Christian Moraes - Eastern

Sid Draper - Sth Adel 

1st round - good options at picks 9-14 

Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

Toby Travaglia - Bendigo

Tom Gross - Oakleigh 

Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland 

Sam Lalor - GWV

AFTER THESE TOP 10 AVAILABLE MIDS

others to look at outside the top 15-18 players in the draft are: (14 youngsters) 

Zak Johnson - Northern 

Nash King - Calder 

Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas 

Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 

Cody Anderson - Eastern 

Lucas McInerney - Northern 

Harvey Langford - Dandenong 

Damon Hollow - Calder 

Cooper Hynes - Dandenong 

Kade Herbert - SA eagles 

Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo 

Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie 

Bo Allan -WA

Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 

 

 

Vic country v WA.  Both Harvey Langford  and Cooper Hynes had great games and I’d be happy to have both onboard with MFC next year.  They offer good mix of Langford ball winning and skill, and Hynes with competitive Cripps like midfielder (aggressive).  Add in with an elite mid like Moraes, Draper or Gross. 

skill and speed please

Thoughts on Harrison Oliver @ChaserJ? Kid impresses me every time I see him play.

5 hours ago, Nascent said:

Thoughts on Harrison Oliver @ChaserJ? Kid impresses me every time I see him play.

Absolutely. I think this year has some very good talent down to at least picks 35-40.  

9 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Vic country v WA.  Both Harvey Langford  and Cooper Hynes had great games and I’d be happy to have both onboard with MFC next year.  They offer good mix of Langford ball winning and skill, and Hynes with competitive Cripps like midfielder (aggressive).  Add in with an elite mid like Moraes, Draper or Gross. 

Geelong very heavily into Cooper Hynes. 

On 25/06/2024 at 09:23, ChaserJ said:

Had a quick go at mapping out what the draft order looks like and used Rookie Me’s draft rankings to try and see how things are shaping up (player tiers, pick swaps, etc.).

Have tried to pair Academy & F/S players with their clubs so Ashcroft is ranked higher than he appears here (Lombard & Camporeale are actually pretty close to where their clubs would be selecting). Lots still to play out, but bolder the players that have caught my eye for various reasons.
 

1. North                              Smillie
2. Richmond                     O’Sullivan
3. WCE                              Luke Trainor
4. Adelaide                        Draper
5. Saints                            J. Smith
6. Hawks                             Moraes
7. GC                                   Lalor
8. GC (Dogs)                     Lombard (GC Acad)
9. Brisbane                        Levi (f/s)              
10. Melbourne                     M. Whitlock
11. Freo (Port)                     Marshall (BL Acad)/O’Farrell
12. Cats                                Gross
13. Giants                             M. Reid
14. Giants                             X Lindsay
15. Freo                                 Berry
16. Freo (Pies)                     Shanahan
17. Carl                                 B. Camporeale (f/s)
18. Syd                                  J Whitlock
19. Syd                                  Kako
20. GC                                   Hotton

On the Bubble:

Allan, Travaglia, Oliver, Mraz, Langford, Faull, Dodson

 

Do not be surprised to see North take Luke Trainor at number one. Grandson of Doug Wade and his  grandfather on the other side, Ex. north President, Frank Trainor.

Edited July 1, 20241 yr by 48 Year Now

On 19/06/2024 at 12:01, Pennant St Dee said:

Yes seen a lot of him big strong bull, but his disposal by foot is really poor. I know Hawthorn have shown interest in him but I don’t expect him to go early 

Sounds an ideal mfc player

Will watch with interest

On 28/06/2024 at 03:20, spirit of norm smith said:

MFC need mids, mids, mids

excluding father son and academy players allocated to the Suns, Giants, Swans, Lions

1st round mids - high quality 

Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh 

Josh Smillie - Eastern

Jagga Smith - Oakleigh 

Christian Moraes - Eastern

Sid Draper - Sth Adel 

1st round - good options at picks 9-14 

Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

Toby Travaglia - Bendigo

Tom Gross - Oakleigh 

Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland 

Sam Lalor - GWV

AFTER THESE TOP 10 AVAILABLE MIDS

others to look at outside the top 15-18 players in the draft are: (14 youngsters) 

Zak Johnson - Northern 

Nash King - Calder 

Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas 

Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 

Cody Anderson - Eastern 

Lucas McInerney - Northern 

Harvey Langford - Dandenong 

Damon Hollow - Calder 

Cooper Hynes - Dandenong 

Kade Herbert - SA eagles 

Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo 

Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie 

Bo Allan -WA

Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 

 

 

We certainly need some extra quality mids spirit of norm smith but we don’t have the same volume of quality picks we had last year we also need another tall back and ruck plus make space for Judd McVee on senior list. I’m thinking that we need to clear 5-7 spots on the list, what do you think and how do we achieve it?

22 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

We certainly need some extra quality mids spirit of norm smith but we don’t have the same volume of quality picks we had last year we also need another tall back and ruck plus make space for Judd McVee on senior list. I’m thinking that we need to clear 5-7 spots on the list, what do you think and how do we achieve it?

I think 5-7 spots will be fairly easy.

Brayshaw, J Smith, Tomlinson, Ben Brown, Schache & Hunter. That is 6 spots and I didn't even have to look at the rest of the list...

17 hours ago, Nascent said:

Thoughts on Harrison Oliver @ChaserJ? Kid impresses me every time I see him play.

He’s been very good for Metro. Does well in one one one’s, competitive and hits targets. Really like him as a small or medium defender, can see him playing on a wing as well, probably not big enough to go inside. Defends and rebounds equally well.

Oliver could land in the first round, I’d lean toward pure midfield options for Dees in the first round BUT if Riv were to star as a mid the rest of the way through the season and our recruiting focus lands on a back six backfill for Riv, Oliver would be high up the preference list.
 

5 hours ago, 48 Year Now said:

Do not be surprised to see North take Luke Trainor at number one. Grandson of Doug Wade and his  grandfather on the other side, Ex. north President, Frank Trainor.

And Luke is a massive North fan. If his form holds the rest of the way through the season, I def could see North either taking Trainor or splitting the pick with a view to taking him. Don’t think they have a need for Smillie or any of the other top rated mids.

Rookie me Central Scouting notes from WA vs Vic Country

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/DCsAur8C55368qr1/?mibextid=K35XfP

Best available regardless of position if we get a top 10 pick. Free agency for what we need.

We had 11,  22 years or under players against the Lions. How many of those will be elite or Very good at least? Time will tell but we need elite players coming through. 

 

On 27/06/2024 at 19:20, spirit of norm smith said:

MFC need mids, mids, mids

excluding father son and academy players allocated to the Suns, Giants, Swans, Lions

1st round mids - high quality 

Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh 

Josh Smillie - Eastern

Jagga Smith - Oakleigh 

Christian Moraes - Eastern

Sid Draper - Sth Adel 

1st round - good options at picks 9-14 

Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

Toby Travaglia - Bendigo

Tom Gross - Oakleigh 

Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland 

Sam Lalor - GWV

AFTER THESE TOP 10 AVAILABLE MIDS

others to look at outside the top 15-18 players in the draft are: (14 youngsters) 

Zak Johnson - Northern 

Nash King - Calder 

Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/Tas 

Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 

Cody Anderson - Eastern 

Lucas McInerney - Northern 

Harvey Langford - Dandenong 

Damon Hollow - Calder 

Cooper Hynes - Dandenong 

Kade Herbert - SA eagles 

Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo 

Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie 

Bo Allan -WA

Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 

 

 

After the Vic metro v SA under 18 match on the weekend, I will add Murphy Reid to this midfielder list, perhaps looking that he would be around pick 20 or 21. 

Dees should try to get say the eagles 2nd round 2024 pick to get him … and offer up our MFC next years 2025 first round with other pick swaps too.  

4 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

After the Vic metro v SA under 18 match on the weekend, I will add Murphy Reid to this midfielder list, perhaps looking that he would be around pick 20 or 21. 

Dees should try to get say the eagles 2nd round 2024 pick to get him … and offer up our MFC next years 2025 first round with other pick swaps too.  

Sounds like he is getting close to a top 10 pick according to the AFL.com.au draft guys