POSTGAME: Rd 18 vs Brisbane

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

2 hours ago, dees189227 said:

Jack Viney is our spiritual leader who never says die and will do anything to get us over the line 

Clarry has also brought that since he started.

Max also in many matches.

Tracc's also jumped in here since Clarry went out.  He's learned to play brutal no holds footy most quarters most weeks, imposing himself at and around the contest.

The Jones boy before that with Viney & Max.

[Hawny for Gawny 451]

1 hour ago, Demon Jack said:

I'm sure JB would agree that Trent 'Jared' Rivers was very good tonight.

don't forget about Tom "Swallow" Sparrow and Lachie "Ed Langdon" Hunter

[Jaded No More 68,903]

1 hour ago, dees189227 said:

Lots of talk about the final bit of play between Lever and hipwood. Clearly it was Levers mark and even JB called it straight away. 

 

1 hour ago, 4_Kent_Watts said:

Never been a more blatant around the neck, too high so where was the free or did they pay the mark.

It was a mark to Lever or a clear free. That lizard looking mofo had him in a choke hold. 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,367]

36 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

The ones near us were up and getting really arrogant I thought in the 2nd and 3rd quarters when they started to get on top.  After we came back and won the game I made sure I gave them a bit of a serve.

Some tool kid in a Colliwood jumper was also jumping up, turning around to verbal the MFC crowd and getting carried away when Brisbane got on top.  Hey buddy - remember Kings Birthday??

I just remind them that their team died in 1996. That usually shuts them up. 

[DeeSpencer 25,678]

1 minute ago, Macca said:

You have to wonder why we don't use the corridor more.  If the fear is that we might turn it over, haven't we got a stellar defence to repel counter-attacks?

But credit to the Lions in the 2nd & 3rd quarters ... they showed us up with great skill and breakneck speed whilst using the corridor.  They played some terrific footy before coming unstuck in the last quarter

We, on the other hand couldn't seem to get the ball past the centre wing in those two quarters.  And in the 2nd quarter we continually moved the ball slowly through the Southern Stand wing and half forward flank ... played into the Lions hands who won the ball back and then attacked through the middle

Both teams were guilty of trying to protect a lead but of course we came out on top

How do we get it to the corridor?

1. Force turnovers in the corridor?
Unlikely, given teams don't use it much against us when our pressure is on, and when they do we aren't exactly known as a quick inside midfield brigade likely to cut teams down in the middle.

2. Run it to the corridor?
We absolutely need to do this more, but we aren't exactly full of half backs with blistering pace or midfielders with creativity. Tracc and Clarry are masters of getting the ball on the rebound and running the corridor, but without them in the midfield it's less likely to happen.

3. Kick it to the corridor.
I'd like to see this more, but the reality is we don't have a lead up CHF so it's generally reliant on overloading the corridor with sneaky little ANB leads or some such thing. Tracc likes a short little lead in to the corridor but it's really hard kick to master.

The big thing we need to do to either run or kick in to the corridor is for our backs to stop having their first reaction being handballing or kicking as wide and skinny side as possible. I'm happy to risk a few chase down tackles to encourage our defenders to run and link towards the space. 'In one side, out the other' is a very basic rule for defensive rebounding and would serve us so much better than our usual habit of immediately seeking the boundary in the backline.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

2 hours ago, BDA said:

Young woey’s first goal for the club was a beauty

And his commitment at the loose ball on the member's flank to hold the ball up.  Showed great courage.

Not many disposals but very clean.

2 matches for two wins.  What a debut from the young sun of a gun.

[Macca 16,961]

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

How do we get it to the corridor?

1. Force turnovers in the corridor?
Unlikely, given teams don't use it much against us when our pressure is on, and when they do we aren't exactly known as a quick inside midfield brigade likely to cut teams down in the middle.

2. Run it to the corridor?
We absolutely need to do this more, but we aren't exactly full of half backs with blistering pace or midfielders with creativity. Tracc and Clarry are masters of getting the ball on the rebound and running the corridor, but without them in the midfield it's less likely to happen.

3. Kick it to the corridor.
I'd like to see this more, but the reality is we don't have a lead up CHF so it's generally reliant on overloading the corridor with sneaky little ANB leads or some such thing. Tracc likes a short little lead in to the corridor but it's really hard kick to master.

The big thing we need to do to either run or kick in to the corridor is for our backs to stop having their first reaction being handballing or kicking as wide and skinny side as possible. I'm happy to risk a few chase down tackles to encourage our defenders to run and link towards the space. 'In one side, out the other' is a very basic rule for defensive rebounding and would serve us so much better than our usual habit of immediately seeking the boundary in the backline.

Too much waffle

It's a mindset ... either attack through the middle or we don't (or won't)

Go back and watch the 2nd quarter for a great example as to how we wanted to avoid moving the ball through the corridor

Continuously moving the ball slowly around the boundary line through the Southern stand wing and half forward flank ... and the Lions lapped it up

So in the last 15 minutes we took risks through the middle and hey presto, we win

It really is that simple but you continue to overcomplicate and over-explain

[Dr. Gonzo 24,207]

2 hours ago, binman said:

Only 39k but at the ground the dees fans were brilliant and super loud in the last quarter.

I have zero doubt it was a big factor.

Good work dees fans. 

For the 1st 3 quarters we were sitting in the AFL members surrounded by Lions fans and a lot of empty seats and it was a garbage atmosphere over there. At 3/4 time we walked around and snuck into some empty seats in the MFC reserve right next to the MCC fence and the atmosphere was fantastic. Sitting among Melbourne supporters, not feeling like you're one voice screaming into the void was just electric in the last 5 minutes. I'm gonna have to figure out how to get seats in the northern stand because I've had enough of sitting amongst opposition supporters every week feeling like every game is an away game (even against interstate teams!)

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,702]

It was great to see us win another way, backs to the wall, gun hoe style, smash mouth football, but must admit our mid zone pressure systems were up the shyzen tonight.

This was not a typical Melbourne performance tonight, the iron fisted, defensive beasts, this was a mid western gun fight!

The second and third qtrs must be address as to why we allow Bris to just dictate terms with their ball movement and failure to close off the corridor.

Lions picked through us like a scab at a swap meet, tougher in the clinchers, playing in front especially from clearances.

A lot to improve on but encouraging signs that we proved to the footy world we can win by playing attacking style football.

[DeeSpencer 25,678]

3 minutes ago, Macca said:

Too much waffle

It's a mindset ... either attack through the middle or we don't (or won't)

Go back and watch the 2nd quarter for a great example as to how we wanted to avoid moving the ball through the corridor

Continuously moving the ball slowly around the boundary line through the Southern stand wing and half forward flank ... and the Lions lapped it up

So in the last 15 minutes we took risks through the middle and hey presto, we win

It really is that simple but you continue to overcomplicate and over-explain

So just completely copy Collingwood despite far different personnel, why haven't 17 other teams thought of that? Mindset, easy done, should all be fixed now. Mindset 1 v Mindset 2 in the grand final, should be a great match.

[Jaded No More 68,903]

12 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

And his commitment at the loose ball on the member's flank to hold the ball up.  Showed great courage.

Not many disposals but very clean.

2 matches for two wins.  What a debut from the young sun of a gun.

Let’s hope he is the Bowey lucky charm version of 2023

[Macca 16,961]

48 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

For the 1st 3 quarters we were sitting in the AFL members surrounded by Lions fans and a lot of empty seats and it was a garbage atmosphere over there. At 3/4 time we walked around and snuck into some empty seats in the MFC reserve right next to the MCC fence and the atmosphere was fantastic. Sitting among Melbourne supporters, not feeling like you're one voice screaming into the void was just electric in the last 5 minutes. I'm gonna have to figure out how to get seats in the northern stand because I've had enough of sitting amongst opposition supporters every week feeling like every game is an away game (even against interstate teams!)

I've been standing in the outer or AFL members all my life and we've never had that many supporters in that area

A large majority of our supporters have always congregated in the MCC area and the Northern Stand

It's just the way it is.  For me, I don't care that I'm outnumbered in the Southern Stand as it's my choice to be there

10 years at the top and you'll see change

Edited July 14, 2023 by Macca

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,702]

I know its been mentioned by follow posters but seriously can't believe Petty was allow to play a quarter and a half meekly, half paced when he was clearly struggling.

He's got to know better and just drag yourself off if your no good.

[DeeZee 7,378]

How good was Vineys goal when he basically ripped it out if the Lions players hand , did a spin and snapped it!

Pure will power and strength.

That gave us real belief and everyone grew another leg after that.

Edited July 14, 2023 by DeeZee

[praha 11,240]

58 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

The ones near us were up and getting really arrogant I thought in the 2nd and 3rd quarters when they started to get on top.  After we came back and won the game I made sure I gave them a bit of a serve.

Some tool kid in a Colliwood jumper was also jumping up, turning around to verbal the MFC crowd and getting carried away when Brisbane got on top.  Hey buddy - remember Kings Birthday??

Collingwood supporters are especially vile when they're threatened. Their cockiness is nauseating. 

[Macca 16,961]

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

So just completely copy Collingwood despite far different personnel, why haven't 17 other teams thought of that? Mindset, easy done, should all be fixed now. Mindset 1 v Mindset 2 in the grand final, should be a great match.

No, now you're putting words into my mouth

I said nothing about copying Collingwood but we have to find a find a way to attack through the corridor, our way.  Using our strengths to good effect

We play like we did in the 2nd & 3rd quarters and we'll be out in straight sets again

We should have met fire with fire (our way) but chose to be indecisive and go sideways

We had no dare, no dash and let Brisbane dominate

We got the win but there's work to be done looking ahead

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,702]

2 hours ago, Garbo said:

Feel like I’m no closer to knowing if dees are legit or not after tonight’s game

Just shows you Dees can win in another way.

 

[Macca 16,961]

1 minute ago, praha said:

Collingwood supporters are especially vile when they're threatened. Their cockiness is nauseating. 

They are in a league of their own.  True filth and a law unto themselves

Brisbane's supporters are mild in comparison.  In fact, there's no comparison

I was in amongst a lot of Lions supporters tonight and there was no hint of any trouble all night.  None

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,702]

6 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

How good was Vineys goal when he basically ripped it out if the Lions players hand , did a spin and snapped it!

Pure will power and strength.

That gave us real belief and everyone grew another leg after that.

Yes my third leg grew alot after seeing that!

[Garbo 1,534]

3 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Just shows you Dees can win in another way.

 

Not complaining, but if we lost by a point I feel like it would be taken entirely differently despite essentially been the same game

[layzie 33,793]

SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP

[binman 42,896]

5 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Not complaining, but if we lost by a point I feel like it would be taken entirely differently despite essentially been the same game

True dat.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,702]

3 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Not complaining, but if we lost by a point I feel like it would be taken entirely differently despite essentially been the same game

Lots of things to work on mate, just enjoy the moments, enjoy the weekend.

We've lost close ones aswell this year, you've just got to enjoy a great comeback victory.

[Macca 16,961]

2 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Not complaining, but if we lost by a point I feel like it would be taken entirely differently despite essentially been the same game

The difference between winning and losing by a small margin is quite stark in our sport

No greater example is joeboy's player analysis ... a narrow loss and often only 4 or 5 get a rap but if we win, the majority often end up playing well

Yet one straight kick is the difference ... correcting, even a wobbly Barry Breen type kick can be the difference

As one poster described tonight's game ... the agony and the exctasy

Lose and we're on shaky ground but win and that QF looms large (for us)

[layzie 33,793]

Best impossible comeback/great escape wins I've seen live:

5. V Geelong Rd 6 2006

4. V Freo Rd 7 2008

3. V Bulldogs Rd 21 2005

2.V Carlton QF 2000

1. V Brisbane Rd 18 2023