PREGAME: Rd 17 vs St. Kilda

[dazzledavey36 56,372]

Oh dear.

[ElDiablo14 5,061]

I am utterly baffled... No Fritsch, no Smith, no reason why we dropped him in the first place...still JVR is not selected 😠

[Devil In Disguise 2,284]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:28, picket fence said:

This is by far THE WORST SELECTIONS of all Time? Friggen Spare parts in on what,????

BBB to battle 4 on one with our incessant bombing! HARMES, MELKSHAM, ANB PUTRID last week. SMITH stiff. GOODWIN and selectors have TOTALLY lost the plot

Im filthy tonight!!🤬

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Smith stiff? 5 disposals & no goals means you're out! Surely you mean JVR stiff for not being selected?

[inanunda 364]

I just want to know the reason for JVR getting dropped? Kicks three and still can't get in without a reason. Too good for VFL.

[Kev 10,930]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:02, Megatron said:

He wasn’t playing in front. His opponent led him to the ball and took some important intercept marks from quick kicks out of stoppage. 
Very slow to read the play at times

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  On 06/07/2023 at 09:23, Lord Travis said:

Not sure there’s much more he can do with his limited footy iq. He’s been led to the ball and let his opponents intercept and charge out of defense this past few weeks. His lack of forward craft has been a key reason our forward line hasn’t functioned.

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Just thought they could have given him a bit more time see if he had anything to offer. He would have had to start improving rapidly, but won't get a chance.

Like I said, it will be hard for him to find his way back, and as you both say, given his skill set, and developmental delays.

His only hope left is as sub, with a big impact.

Edited July 6, 2023 by kev martin

[Demon Dynasty 17,169]

  On 06/07/2023 at 08:59, wizardinoz said:

Going in again with no recognised CHF after also losing Frisch? Why no JVR or Petty forward with Tomlinson back? The coach has lost the plot with his midget setup.

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That should be BB if JVR was playing.

Apparently this coaching group is of the belief that a genuine tall CHF is not necessary in the modern game.

Either that or they feel our game style has this critical position well & truly covered with our mediums & smalls.  And/or Gawn & Grundy.  Both of whom are only averaging a goal every other game so far this season.

If you are putting one up forward it should be Grundy who is at least a better kick at goal this season running at 66% accuracy vs Max's 39%

Edited July 6, 2023 by Demon Dynasty

[Demon Dynasty 17,169]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:35, inanunda said:

I just want to know the reason for JVR getting dropped? Kicks three and still can't get in without a reason. Too good for VFL.

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If you're referring to his last game at Casey vs GWS he kicked 4

[binman 44,856]

  On 06/07/2023 at 08:57, kev martin said:

Interesting out in J.Smith.

I wander what they want him to work on?

He has been getting through a few games now (uninjured),  the wet last week. I thought he deserved one more look at AFL level.

The VFL really won't improve bim. Will need to dominate at that level to get back in if dropped completely.

Hope they use him as a sub specialist. 

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I reckon there's a good chance smithy will be the sub. 

In some ways, with his athleticism and ability to play tall, he's the perfect sub as he can play so many roles (albeit to variable levels).

[ElDiablo14 5,061]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:35, inanunda said:

I just want to know the reason for JVR getting dropped? Kicks three and still can't get in without a reason. Too good for VFL.

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He is our only player with a kicking efficiency above 50% 😡😡

[Demons11 7,151]

  On 06/07/2023 at 08:57, kev martin said:

Interesting out in J.Smith.

I wander what they want him to work on?

He has been getting through a few games now (uninjured),  the wet last week. I thought he deserved one more look at AFL level.

The VFL really won't improve bim. Will need to dominate at that level to get back in if dropped completely.

Hope they use him as a sub specialist. 

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Petty forward I’d say 

[Dee*ceiving 1,738]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:35, inanunda said:

I just want to know the reason for JVR getting dropped? Kicks three and still can't get in without a reason. Too good for VFL.

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Not quite...  He kicked 4 🤦🤷

[Travy14 2,142]

I Like most of the changes, but think JVR had to be in not Melksham.  

Hopefully this is because they are managing JVR's workload in the VFL and giving him a break whilst still getting footy into him.

Now reward Chandler/Spargo if they have form in the VFL and if Kossie/ANB are not performing they get dropped.

[Adam The God 30,752]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:41, Demons11 said:

Petty forward I’d say 

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Not with King and Caminiti forward. Goody intermated they won't be tweaking the defensive 7 anymore too.

[Demons11 7,151]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:43, A F said:

Not with King and Caminiti forward. Goody intermated they won't be tweaking the defensive 7 anymore too.

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If that’s the case and they are trying something different up forwards then I’m all for it.

[DubDee 26,711]

so Smith out for Melksham really. 

i guess they were both very poor on the weekend but i thought after all this time Smith deserved a run of games 

[Kev 10,930]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:40, binman said:

I reckon there's a good chance smithy will be the sub. 

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I think they will go with Harmes. They know what they will get with him, and seem to be using experienced players as subs now. He would be better suited to doing and following a role.

My guess is they want Joel to work on something, similar to JVR.

Edited July 6, 2023 by kev martin

[DubDee 26,711]

Zero chance of Petty fwd with no Tommo coming in

[Demon Dynasty 17,169]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:53, DubDee said:

Zero chance of Petty fwd with no Tommo coming in

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BB back to take King.... Petty forward! 🤣

[Kev 10,930]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:41, Demons11 said:

Petty forward I’d say 

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I reckon they will get Grundy working forward more.

Petty back, and has something to prove against Caminiti. Got towelled up in the practice game by the youngster.

[Demon Dynasty 17,169]

Well at least the English have done the right thing again.

Won the toss and sent the Aussies in to bat.

That's 3 - Zip to Australia in the bag!

[COOLX 209]

Maybe we need to drop out of the eight before we Goody decides to make wholesale changes. I wish Smith played forward years ago , playing back has resulted in several injuries. Getting dropped probably means that he will be delisted along with Harmes. Looks like we are going to play smaller thou slight . I expect us to lose . no Oliver no Melbourne.

[Demonsone 2,056]

3 away games in a row … show me if Collingwood, Geelong , Richmond are doing this, keep on flying to Alice to play on a suburban ground, let’s put 4 points as a secondary objective. Who signed off to this fixture?

Edited July 6, 2023 by Demonsone

[Kev 10,930]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:59, COOLX said:

I expect us to lose . no Oliver no Melbourne.

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On the money with that, though I expect us to win.

We really miss that breaking out of the front of packs with him, doing or assisting. Tracc looked tired with him not there. He was also working into the backline, and is often the loose player in the corridors.

Edited July 6, 2023 by kev martin

[markT 21]

Melksham (6 disposals last week) - IN, JVR (4 Goals at Casey last week) - OUT, BBB our only tall marking forward on a guaranteed dry ground. WTF!

Is it just me? Or did they hand around the happy gas at the selectors meeting this week?

[Redleg 42,182]

  On 06/07/2023 at 09:07, A F said:

Melksham gets to 100 games with the club this week doesn't he?

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Yep and I thought it might be as sub against Roos.

A poor game will be his last.