Cyclops 512 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) Right at the end Ms Roffey told of at least a half a dozen councils she had contacted in the last few months regarding available land ( hectares as she put it) without luck. The club has been looking for 30 years we were told. Next question is when is time to give up. When is time to tell members that an inner city base is unlikely .Twenty seven million dollars doesn't go far when buy hectares in Melbourne. Edited February 20, 2023 by Cyclops 5 Quote
Cyclops 512 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, DeeZone said: I watched Kate Roffe speech and although I enjoyed the content I thought that Kate sounded a bit edgy did something happen?? She was in a lot of pain with an injured ankle. 2 1 1 Quote
DeeZone 10,590 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Cyclops said: She was in a lot of pain with an injured ankle. Thanks Cyclops that explains her discomfort. Poor Kate.💕 2 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 but what about the elections and the submission? Quote
Cyclops 512 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, daisycutter said: but what about the elections and the submission? Submission voted down but some intrigue over the percentages The incumbents of the board got up 5 Quote
jayceebee31 768 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, BDA said: Did the Deemocracy motion get up? The streaming cut out , said it ended before notification of result.. 2 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, demon3165 said: the club has Casey Fields and its set up AMMi park for gym and pools and the admin is there as well, we also won a Premiership with these same conditions, We also won multiple premierships when based at the MCG in the 50's and 60's. It's not a valid argument, things move on and more quickly than ever these days. On the home base issue there doesn't appear to be a lot of movement. 6 1 Quote
demon3165 2,865 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, rjay said: We also won multiple premierships when based at the MCG in the 50's and 60's. It's not a valid argument, things move on and more quickly than ever these days. On the home base issue there doesn't appear to be a lot of movement. yeah and we trained there and was the only club there as well, that doesn't happen now, so what's your point, it's a ground, it's a weight and gym, it's a pool, we have better facilities now than the Junction Oval, we missed out throughout time because of this ideology that we must only be near the MGC because we play at the G and it's our home ground that worked out for us didn't it. 1 Quote
rpfc 29,028 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, rjay said: We also won multiple premierships when based at the MCG in the 50's and 60's. It's not a valid argument, things move on and more quickly than ever these days. On the home base issue there doesn't appear to be a lot of movement. Then maybe co-locating admin and FD will be ‘moved on from’ and will be seen as unnecessary in a world where white collar office space is an albatross to organisations. 1 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, demon3165 said: yeah and we trained there and was the only club there as well, that doesn't happen now, so what's your point, it's a ground, it's a weight and gym, it's a pool, we have better facilities now than the Junction Oval, we missed out throughout time because of this ideology that we must only be near the MGC because we play at the G and it's our home ground that worked out for us didn't it. You're not getting the point... I have not said anything about us needing to be near the MCG. ...but our current facilities need to be upgraded, we are falling behind the arms race. As we did when we were at the MCG and didn't read the room. 5 Quote
demon3165 2,865 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 Just now, rjay said: You're not getting the point... I have not said anything about us needing to be near the MCG. ...but our current facilities need to be upgraded, we are falling behind the arms race. As we did when we were at the MCG and didn't read the room. What facilities need to be upgraded for the players that we struggle with? 1 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, rpfc said: Then maybe co-locating admin and FD will be ‘moved on from’ and will be seen as unnecessary in a world where white collar office space is an albatross to organisations. Could be and it makes sense for some functions of the club. 1 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 Just now, demon3165 said: What facilities need to be upgraded for the players that we struggle with? All facilities need to be improved to keep up with the competition. 5 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, rjay said: All facilities need to be improved to keep up with the competition. Roffey said tonight the players have everything they need at Casey. Ground, gym, pool, indoor arena etc. they want for nothing in terms of the quality of the necessities. Just a shame it’s an hour away from the CBD. 4 Quote
KLV 1,768 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, McQueen said: Just a shame it’s an hour away from the CBD. And that’s on a good day 3 Quote
pitmaster 3,592 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 I can imagine the envy on our players' faces when they turn up to RSEA Park on Friday for a practice match and they cop a close up view at the facilities the Saints are creating at their home. I was down there a couple of weeks ago and it's damn impressive. You can all take a look on Friday arvo and think about what might have been. Yes I understand confidentiality and stake holder consultations, but the lack of progress is one glaring red dot on our four year strategy. When the result came in I scored two out of three on board appointments. I can't help thinking we missed an opportunity for a fresh approach with the vote tonight. There's a sameness about our board - corporate backgrounds in finance, management, law, accounting...but I don't see anything in government ties and Reed might have been that. I did note (before my feed cut out) that Kate referred to her "friend" Tim Pallas. Perhaps she was trying to tell us something but adding a professional in the field of government liaison would not be a bad thing. The board could do worse than swallow its pride and see what Reed has to offer in some other capacity. 4 Quote
demon3165 2,865 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, rjay said: All facilities need to be improved to keep up with the competition. So we cannot upgrade Casey then, is that what you are saying, GOSH'S paddock has been upgraded or are football grounds going to get bigger? 1 Quote
Jumping Jack Clennett 1,825 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 Oh darn!! The streaming stopped just when we were getting to the interesting part,discussing the resolution , and questions. 1 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 Just now, demon3165 said: So we cannot upgrade Casey then, is that what you are saying, GOSH'S paddock has been upgraded or are football grounds going to get bigger? Of course we can upgrade Casey if that's the path we are taking. My original point was that your comment that we won a flag with the facility we had doesn't hold water. That was 2 years ago, I know we have had some upgrades since that but we are behind the competition. We should win a flag this year, it won't mean our facilities are at a level they should be, it just means we have a better list. 5 Quote
Katrina Dee Fan 4,077 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, BDA said: Did the Deemocracy motion get up? No 1 Quote
demon3165 2,865 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, pitmaster said: I can imagine the envy on our players' faces when they turn up to RSEA Park on Friday for a practice match and they cop a close up view at the facilities the Saints are creating at their home. I was down there a couple of weeks ago and it's damn impressive. You can all take a look on Friday arvo and think about what might have been. Yes I understand confidentiality and stake holder consultations, but the lack of progress is one glaring red dot on our four year strategy. When the result came in I scored two out of three on board appointments. I can't help thinking we missed an opportunity for a fresh approach with the vote tonight. There's a sameness about our board - corporate backgrounds in finance, management, law, accounting...but I don't see anything in government ties and Reed might have been that. I did note (before my feed cut out) that Kate referred to her "friend" Tim Pallas. Perhaps she was trying to tell us something but adding a professional in the field of government liaison would not be a bad thing. The board could do worse than swallow its pride and see what Reed has to offer in some other capacity. Think you might want to look into Kate's background regarding government ties... 1 Quote
Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,793 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said: Oh darn!! The streaming stopped just when we were getting to the interesting part,discussing the resolution , and questions. Website...... The breakdown of votes were as follows. 1575 (45.7 percent) 1868 (54.3 percent) Accordingly the resolution was not carried. Doesn't say which is For or Against, assuming For listed first Either way, significant support for motion 6 Quote
rjay 25,424 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, demon3165 said: now you can believe Pert or just come out and say he's lying What did he (Pert) say by the way? 2 Quote
Katrina Dee Fan 4,077 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 49 minutes ago, rjay said: We also won multiple premierships when based at the MCG in the 50's and 60's. It's not a valid argument, things move on and more quickly than ever these days. On the home base issue there doesn't appear to be a lot of movement. In the 50s and 60s they trained on the MCG 1 Quote
demon3165 2,865 Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 Just now, rjay said: Of course we can upgrade Casey if that's the path we are taking. My original point was that your comment that we won a flag with the facility we had doesn't hold water. That was 2 years ago, I know we have had some upgrades since that but we are behind the competition. We should win a flag this year, it won't mean our facilities are at a level they should be, it just means we have a better list. You keep saying facilities need to be upgrading but you cannot say what, stop generalising and tell me, or are you saying that the need for upgrading cost us a flag last year? 1 Quote
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