1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Well done Simon Goodwin, you magnificently set Jeffo up for a massive failure by selecting him on zero form last week. And guess what happened? He failed. Just SHOCKING player management.☠️

He’s 3 years in the system. Time to put his big boy pants on

2 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

He’s 3 years in the system. Time to put his big boy pants on

Not if he hadn't had form to warrant selection in the first place. I'll double down on this! Meanwhile Fritsch and Spargo's STELLAR form ( NOT) is perrenially rewarded!

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4 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Not if he hadn't had form to warrant selection in the first place. I'll double down on this! Meanwhile Fritsch and Spargo's STELLAR form ( NOT) is perrenially rewarded!

I am not sure what Fritta can do less, than his miserable latest games, to get dropped.

Simon does have favorites, no doubt.

I would have played Sestan for Fritta. Sestan needs a chance and Fritta needs a message.

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I am not sure what Fritta can do less, than his miserable latest games, to get dropped.

Simon does have favorites, no doubt.

I would have played Sestan for Fritta. Sestan needs a chance and Fritta needs a message.

when sestan played up fwd he did f all, he looks fantastic down back so lets leave him there, none of this turner and petty bs and switching them every second game

5 hours ago, JJJ said:

This was a list management decision. The end of season review indicated that we required another young KPFpushing through.

We went super hard to acquire a pick to get Cadman as a result. Failing that, the club tried to move into the top 10.

I don’t think JT was Jeffo’s biggest cheerleader internally but after the top 8-9 picks it was a lottery so they went with who they thought was the best chance to be an AFL KPF.

I’ve always been of the thought that he should’ve stayed on the skinnier side and developed a bigger tank to be a young Cam Bruce style. Sigh.

It was a pretty bad draft. Tsatas went 5 after all. Makes my kicking as a mid forties bloke look elite.

Did everything we could to get Bailey Humphrey that year

12 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

He’s 3 years in the system. Time to put his big boy pants on

I don’t rate Jefferson at all but I do agree with Picket, in that as a manager/coach you need to put players in the best position to succeed. Selection is one way to do that.

I look at players get game after game for no apparent reason or get rushed back with no competitive play in the bank in Fritsch, Spargo, Turner, Salem, Tholstrup, Petty, McAdam and in this case, Jefferson. It doesn’t help the teams continuity and in the younger players case, it doesn’t help their development.

It also sends a strange message to the rest of the playing list. Especially when the senior team is not winning and the players and coaches are doing the same thing expecting a different result.

12 minutes ago, JJJ said:

I don’t rate Jefferson at all but I do agree with Picket, in that as a manager/coach you need to put players in the best position to succeed. Selection is one way to do that.

I look at players get game after game for no apparent reason or get rushed back with no competitive play in the bank in Fritsch, Spargo, Turner, Salem, Tholstrup, Petty, McAdam and in this case, Jefferson. It doesn’t help the teams continuity and in the younger players case, it doesn’t help their development.

It also sends a strange message to the rest of the playing list. Especially when the senior team is not winning and the players and coaches are doing the same thing expecting a different result.

Quite possibly

41 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Well done Simon Goodwin, you magnificently set Jeffo up for a massive failure by selecting him on zero form last week. And guess what happened? He failed. Just SHOCKING player management.☠️

Yep this is a Goodwin trademark - rush back players who either have no form or are not fully fit.

Well done Goodie.

His still young. If he wants to save his career, train once a week with Mel Storm.

Whilst I certainly question selection and management over the journey Jefferson needs to show some toughness. We all know it, the club knows it, worst of all he knows it. It’s shows through so clearly

6 hours ago, JJJ said:

I’ve always been of the thought that he should’ve stayed on the skinnier side and developed a bigger tank to be a young Cam Bruce style. Sigh.

Bruce "Jeffo" Banner!? I must have missed the transformation...

46 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

when sestan played up fwd he did f all, he looks fantastic down back so lets leave him there, none of this turner and petty bs and switching them every second game

Sestan was drafted as a forward and yes has been playing back for Casey.

I would imagine he could match Fritsch with 4 possessions and missing two sitters with his boy 2 kicks last week.

12 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Sestan was drafted as a forward and yes has been playing back for Casey.

I would imagine he could match Fritsch with 4 possessions and missing two sitters with his boy 2 kicks last week.

And then Goody would be rightly lambasted for not setting him up for success by playing him in defence at VFL level and playing him as a forward at the next level.

Sestan for Fritta wouldn't have been a good move IMO. But I would have dropped Fritta.

Played his last game of AFL, next….

20 hours ago, JJJ said:

This was a list management decision. The end of season review indicated that we required another young KPFpushing through.

We went super hard to acquire a pick to get Cadman as a result. Failing that, the club tried to move into the top 10.

I don’t think JT was Jeffo’s biggest cheerleader internally but after the top 8-9 picks it was a lottery so they went with who they thought was the best chance to be an AFL KPF.

I’ve always been of the thought that he should’ve stayed on the skinnier side and developed a bigger tank to be a young Cam Bruce style. Sigh.

It was a pretty bad draft. Tsatas went 5 after all. Makes my kicking as a mid forties bloke look elite.

Very interesting. Thanks for the insight. (I thought the one they wanted badly and were desperate to trade up for was Humphrey.)

Statement of the bleeding obvious, but Cadman would have been great.

Funny to look back and see the widespread enthusiasm for players like Tsatas. Everything's relative, I guess: he may well have looked exciting in what turned out to be an extremely shallow draft.

On 14/05/2025 at 22:15, WERRIDEE said:

I think he has to grow a beard. It's worked wonders for Thilthorpe.

& Jack Watts… I think lol

Is Jefferson contracted beyond this year? All signs point to bust so far, just too timid to play key forward.

4 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Is Jefferson contracted beyond this year? All signs point to bust so far, just too timid to play key forward.

1 more year I believe.

20 hours ago, picket fence said:

Well done Simon Goodwin, you magnificently set Jeffo up for a massive failure by selecting him on zero form last week. And guess what happened? He failed. Just SHOCKING player management.☠️

He’s never shown enough at vfl level to warrant selection, at this point it’s just giving him a few games and hoping for the best. If we wait for him to earn it the day might never come and then everyone will criticise Goodwin and the club for never trying him. It’s a lose lose situation

19 hours ago, Redleg said:

I am not sure what Fritta can do less, than his miserable latest games, to get dropped.

Simon does have favorites, no doubt.

I would have played Sestan for Fritta. Sestan needs a chance and Fritta needs a message.

Bloody hell Red.... there ya go waffling on with common sense and reason.

Seek help mate.... you'll come a cropper

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Is Jefferson contracted beyond this year? All signs point to bust so far, just too timid to play key forward.

Totally agree. . If he has some of Roo's devil may care he might be a very different player but all too often looks like a deer in headlights out there.

Not all are at home on the big stage. He strikes me as one. Bit of a shame as he has ability. Not always enough.

Give the poor kid a bit more of a chance.

Still way too early to write him off.

Played a handful of senior games.

46 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Give the poor kid a bit more of a chance.

Still way too early to write him off.

Played a handful of senior games.

Agree LITD when our list was a lot stronger young players had to knock the door off its hinges down at Casey, IE Sparrow and JJ. Gifting them games when they haven’t earned it sends the wrong message and is a disservice to the player that is trying to find form at VFL level. I really want to see some discipline from our selection committee only reward effort, hunger and a desire to win. There are kids that are having a red hot crack every week they are the ones that need to be rewarded. I really admired Robert Walls (RIP) but I believe that was one of his mantra’s, if you don’t have a dig you don’t get a go. Not sure about bringing out the gloves on training nights would get the nod today but who knows.

On 15/05/2025 at 13:19, JJJ said:

This was a list management decision. The end of season review indicated that we required another young KPFpushing through.

We went super hard to acquire a pick to get Cadman as a result. Failing that, the club tried to move into the top 10.

I don’t think JT was Jeffo’s biggest cheerleader internally but after the top 8-9 picks it was a lottery so they went with who they thought was the best chance to be an AFL KPF.

I’ve always been of the thought that he should’ve stayed on the skinnier side and developed a bigger tank to be a young Cam Bruce style. Sigh.

It was a pretty bad draft. Tsatas went 5 after all. Makes my kicking as a mid forties bloke look elite.

Doing much this weekend... ?? Like XXXX ??

Asking for a mate...

2 hours ago, Garbo said:

He’s never shown enough at vfl level to warrant selection, at this point it’s just giving him a few games and hoping for the best. If we wait for him to earn it the day might never come and then everyone will criticise Goodwin and the club for never trying him. It’s a lose lose situation

This is the crux of selection problems at Melbourne, last year in the later half of the year JEFFO DID show form and was NOT rewarded with selection. What a waste, perfect opportunity to blood him when he was in form but save for emergencies this was not done, Goodwin again playing favourites. So your argument is not supported. This year he has shown almost zero form other than some glimpses in his first game. So on merit he should NEVER have been in line for selection last week but he was and performed poorly. But Goody CLEARLY plays favourites, Fritsch, Spargo, Chandler was given an extended run last year on no form, and Fritsch this year has been abysmal! He has the propensity to stick with out of form players and rush back those with serious injuries before time at Casey. Sestan , Laurie and Brown HAVE shown some good form and have been ignored, PFFFT. He and selection comittee have set Jeffo up for failure and in so doing have done him or the club NO favours.

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