2023 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch

[Adam The God 30,221]

If it's not Reid or Curtin, I hope it's McKercher. All three would fill needs for us.

Edited August 8, 2023 by A F

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

21 hours ago, A F said:

I meant which player, but thanks.

Haynes is 31, so not sure too many would be interested...

Nobody I suspect, hence why they are probably going to have to part with one of their first round picks or potentially breach the cap? Who knows. 

[manny100 1,552]

I think we will have a go at trading for GC's 1st pick.

We will have to cough up a future 1st plus one or both 2023 2nd rounders and a little back.

 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

Just now, manny100 said:

I think we will have a go at trading for GC's 1st pick.

We will have to cough up a future 1st plus one or both 2023 2nd rounders and a little back.

 

So we will potentially have three first rounders this year. What could we do with #17? 

[dee-tox 4,835]

3 hours ago, Nascent said:

 

If North can pre-list Sanders then they may go McKercher to try and keep mates together and avoid a pull to the new Tassie team.

 

North are reasonably well off in the midfield with LDU, Simpkin, Thomas, Sheezel, Wardlaw, etc.

They might want to add one but not two.

They desperately need quality small forwards and probably a replacement for McKay.

[Nascent 9,212]

26 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

North are reasonably well off in the midfield with LDU, Simpkin, Thomas, Sheezel, Wardlaw, etc.

They might want to add one but not two.

They desperately need quality small forwards and probably a replacement for McKay.

Indeed. That's why I highlighted Curtin and Watson as other candidates for their pick.

[Skuit 10,031]

4 hours ago, A F said:

If it's not Reid or Curtin, I hope it's McKercher. All three would fill needs for us.

How do you feel about Duursma, as that's how I see it tracking? 

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Changed my mind again. 

Trade up, take two top 10 picks to the draft and one inside 15 as there'll be a couple of sliders. 

I think we need a spread of talent across the field and a new generation of talent coming through together rather than all chips in on one. 

I think it'd give us a boost like Sydney have experience with their influx of high end talent over an off-season a few years ago. 

It'd also allow us the flexibility to trade for a ready made player/forward/back which needs to come under serious consideration given May's age, Petty's injury, Brown and McDonald's form/age/injury history. 

I can see Reid being unbelievable for us. But it's clear our problems lie in an array of areas that he won't fix alone. And selling the farm for him seems a big risk, especially long-term. 

[dee-tox 4,835]

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

How do you feel about Duursma, as that's how I see it tracking? 

You'd say so Skuity! He was invited to pre-season training with us. Has played for Casey this year and apparently has been at the club a number of times. Think the club identified Zane some time back...

Edited August 8, 2023 by dee-tox

[Skuit 10,031]

1 hour ago, dee-tox said:

You'd say so Skuity! He was invited to pre-season training with us. Has played for Casey this year and apparently has been at the club a number of times. Think the club identified Zane some time back...

That's all part of my reasoning dee-tox, but Tim Lamb must have been a clairvoyant to have worked out that Zane would fall almost exactly at Fremantle's eventual future first! I'm guessing we would have been prepared to trade up to snag him if we had lower picks and saw the potential, but the options and variables have opened up a bit now. Fancy discussing all the permutations over a pint sometime? I'm presently back in the neighbourhood. 

[Whispering_Jack 30,036]

Bigfooty contributor Davo-17s August top 50:-

1. Harley Reid - Bendigo - 185cm 85kg
2. Jed Walter - GCS A - 195cm 91kg (GCS)
3. Colby McKercher - Tasmania - 181cm 72kg
4. Ryley Sanders - Tas/Sand - 186cm 85kg
5. Dan Curtin - Claremont - 196cm 91kg
6. Nick Watson - Eastern - 170cm 67kg
7. Ethan Read - GCS A - 200cm 90kg (GCS)
8. Zane Duursma - Gippsland - 189cm 79kg
9. Jake Rogers - GCS A - 172cm 67kg (GCS)
10. Connor O'Sullivan - Murray - 198cm 92kg
11. Harry Demattia - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg
12. Darcy Wilson - Murray - 185cm 73kg
13. Nate Caddy - Northern - 192cm 91kg
14. Mitch Edwards - Peel - 207cm 90kg
15. Jack Delean - Sth Adel - 181cm 73kg
16. Koltyn Tholstrup - Subiaco - 188cm 80kg
17. Will McCabe - Central Dist - 197cm 81kg (Haw)
18. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
19. Harvey Johnston - Sandringham - 184cm 76kg
20. Ollie Murphy - Sandringham - 200cm 85kg
21. Will Patton - Wst Adel - 192cm 79kg
22. Caleb Windsor - Eastern - 184cm 74kg
23. Koen Sanchez - East Frem - 178cm 71kg
24. Jordan Croft - Calder - 200cm 80kg (WB)
25. Archer Reid - Gippsland - 203cm 93kg
26. Ashton Moir - Glenlg - 188cm 84kg
27. Will Lorenz - Oakleigh - 186cm 70kg
28. Clay Hall - Peel - 190cm 85kg
29. James Leake - Tasmania - 188cm 74kg
30. Riley Hardeman - Swan Dist - 188cm 80kg
31. Wil Dawson - Gippsland - 200cm 86kg
32. Joel Freijah - GWV - 191cm 86kg
33. Phoenix Gothard - Murray - 178cm 70kg
34. Will Brown - Sandringham - 194cm 86kg
35. Jack Callinan - Tasmania - 179cm 77kg
36. Luca Slade - Sturt - 180cm 70kg
37. Luamon Lual - GWV - 181cm 71kg (WB)
38. Lachlan Smith - Murray - 202cm 97kg
39. George Stevens - GWV - 189cm 84kg
40. Caiden Cleary - Syd A - 180cm 77kg (Syd)
41. Heath Ollington - Tasmania - 190cm 81kg (19yo)
42. Billy Wilson - Dandenong - 182cm 71kg
43. Will Green - Northern - 204cm 89kg
44. Vigo Visentini - Sandringham - 203cm 97kg
45. Aiden O'Driscoll - Perth - 177cm 70kg
46. Michael Rudd - Geelong - 192cm 91kg
47. Archie Roberts - Sandringham - 184cm 77kg
48. Harvey Thomas - GWS A - 175cm 68kg (GWS)
49. Bodie Ryan - Glenlg - 188cm
50. Kade De La Rue - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg
 
 

[BangBnagBang 694]

20 hours ago, manny100 said:

I think we will have a go at trading for GC's 1st pick.

We will have to cough up a future 1st plus one or both 2023 2nd rounders and a little back.

 

Taylor and Lamb have shown over the years they will have no hesitation to use next years first and pay it forward.

I don't see us taking 4 picks under 30ish. we just dont have the list spots or the depth need to bring in 4-5 18yo this year. You can see with Laurie and Howes we just cant fit them in the team, form not withstanding. What we can fit in the 22 is high end talent. That's why I can see us offering the world for pick 1 or CG 5 and taking 1 or 2 high end talent instead of 4 top 30.

[Jeremy 981]

Hawks hot on Duursma with pick 3 according to Cal Twomey on gettable. Feel like if we can't acquire pick 1 he'd be close to next on the list for us. 

[ChaserJ 5,089]

Foxsports draft wrap, including a bit on Duursma and the potential for him to line up for Casey on more occasions and be viewed up close by the Dees list management team:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-2023-harley-reid-essendon-game-impresses-brad-scott-zane-duursma-melbourne-jordan-croft-western-bulldogs/news-story/f64b7da13b4375b4d6a9cbc7b4f2360c

[Lord Travis 10,729]

The North compo pick really dictates the early draft. Their list manager (Rawlings) made comment yesterday that 'end of first round or second round compensation is not what we're after', and that they'd rather match the offer as a restricted free agent than lose him for that. They're really pushing for start of first round compo, so pick 3. If they got pick 3, then Eagles are less likely to trade pick 1 backwards and we'd lose access to Reid. Or, if we didn't trade up, our pick drops and we potentially lose access to someone like Mckercher, Curtin, Duursma that we'd targeted. Fingers crossed for us and the whole league that North don't get pick 3. 

On the potential for pick 3 for the Roos, in no way is Ben Mckay worth a first round pick as compo. On 2023 form, he's lost 41% of one on one contests, which ranks him as the worst key defender in the league. Outright statistically worst tall defender in the league. He's only averaged a bit under 2 intercept marks a game. For context, May has lost 21%, Lever 25%. Tomlinson surprisingly has been our strongest defender in the contest, and has only lost 12% of one on one contests and averages a bit over 1 intercept mark a game, including matches where he's been subbed off. If Ben McKay is worth a first round pick, then so is Tomlinson, and we all know neither are. 

I'm still hopefully we'll be able to put picks together to trade for pick 1 and land Reid. He looks like an incredible prospect and it would be so damaging and exciting having him form a rotation of devastation between midfield and forward line with Petracca.

[BW511 2,668]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

On the potential for pick 3 for the Roos, in no way is Ben Mckay worth a first round pick as compo. On 2023 form, he's lost 41% of one on one contests, which ranks him as the worst key defender in the league. Outright statistically worst tall defender in the league. He's only averaged a bit under 2 intercept marks a game. For context, May has lost 21%, Lever 25%. Tomlinson surprisingly has been our strongest defender in the contest, and has only lost 12% of one on one contests and averages a bit over 1 intercept mark a game, including matches where he's been subbed off. If Ben McKay is worth a first round pick, then so is Tomlinson, and we all know neither are. 

The way compo is tied into the dollar value of deals is wrong. Seems way too easy to manipulate.

He is always injured, he's not actually very good, as your stats highlight, then I ask how much more help do North need?

[Redleg 40,899]

On 8/8/2023 at 6:29 PM, Binmans PA said:

If it's not Reid or Curtin, I hope it's McKercher. All three would fill needs for us.

What’s this Binmans PA name?

[Whispering_Jack 30,036]

21 hours ago, Lewis said:

Hawks hot on Duursma with pick 3 according to Cal Twomey on gettable. Feel like if we can't acquire pick 1 he'd be close to next on the list for us. 

That would be interesting because it might mean the club that has a footprint in the State prefers Duursma ahead of one of the two Tasmanians McKercher and Sanders.

I would like to know what our recruiting people think about chasing youngsters from Tassie in light of their recent licence. There is still no guarantee that they will enter the competition in 2028 especially if the proposed new fixed-roof stadium can’t be built a Hobart's Macquarie Point.

[Adam The God 30,221]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

What’s this Binmans PA name?

If you missed it, you missed it, mate.

I've got it for a year now. Grammatical error and all...

[spirit of norm smith 16,446]

On 8/9/2023 at 2:56 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

Bigfooty contributor Davo-17s August top 50:-

1. Harley Reid - Bendigo - 185cm 85kg
2. Jed Walter - GCS A - 195cm 91kg (GCS)
3. Colby McKercher - Tasmania - 181cm 72kg
4. Ryley Sanders - Tas/Sand - 186cm 85kg
5. Dan Curtin - Claremont - 196cm 91kg
6. Nick Watson - Eastern - 170cm 67kg
7. Ethan Read - GCS A - 200cm 90kg (GCS)
8. Zane Duursma - Gippsland - 189cm 79kg
9. Jake Rogers - GCS A - 172cm 67kg (GCS)
10. Connor O'Sullivan - Murray - 198cm 92kg
11. Harry Demattia - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg
12. Darcy Wilson - Murray - 185cm 73kg
13. Nate Caddy - Northern - 192cm 91kg
14. Mitch Edwards - Peel - 207cm 90kg
15. Jack Delean - Sth Adel - 181cm 73kg
16. Koltyn Tholstrup - Subiaco - 188cm 80kg
17. Will McCabe - Central Dist - 197cm 81kg (Haw)
18. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg
19. Harvey Johnston - Sandringham - 184cm 76kg
20. Ollie Murphy - Sandringham - 200cm 85kg
21. Will Patton - Wst Adel - 192cm 79kg
22. Caleb Windsor - Eastern - 184cm 74kg
23. Koen Sanchez - East Frem - 178cm 71kg
24. Jordan Croft - Calder - 200cm 80kg (WB)
25. Archer Reid - Gippsland - 203cm 93kg
26. Ashton Moir - Glenlg - 188cm 84kg
27. Will Lorenz - Oakleigh - 186cm 70kg
28. Clay Hall - Peel - 190cm 85kg
29. James Leake - Tasmania - 188cm 74kg
30. Riley Hardeman - Swan Dist - 188cm 80kg
31. Wil Dawson - Gippsland - 200cm 86kg
32. Joel Freijah - GWV - 191cm 86kg
33. Phoenix Gothard - Murray - 178cm 70kg
34. Will Brown - Sandringham - 194cm 86kg
35. Jack Callinan - Tasmania - 179cm 77kg
36. Luca Slade - Sturt - 180cm 70kg
37. Luamon Lual - GWV - 181cm 71kg (WB)
38. Lachlan Smith - Murray - 202cm 97kg
39. George Stevens - GWV - 189cm 84kg
40. Caiden Cleary - Syd A - 180cm 77kg (Syd)
41. Heath Ollington - Tasmania - 190cm 81kg (19yo)
42. Billy Wilson - Dandenong - 182cm 71kg
43. Will Green - Northern - 204cm 89kg
44. Vigo Visentini - Sandringham - 203cm 97kg
45. Aiden O'Driscoll - Perth - 177cm 70kg
46. Michael Rudd - Geelong - 192cm 91kg
47. Archie Roberts - Sandringham - 184cm 77kg
48. Harvey Thomas - GWS A - 175cm 68kg (GWS)
49. Bodie Ryan - Glenlg - 188cm
50. Kade De La Rue - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg
 
 

Good list.

I’d definitely be recommending these guys at later 2nd/3rd BUY orders … Hardeman at 30 (steal) , Freijah at 32 (bargain) George Stevens at 39 (slider) and Archie Roberts at 47 (call his number quickly). 

[Skuit 10,031]

I just got an advert for Duursma's Air Conditioning on Demonland. They also have lines in drive technology and hoisting equipment. While disappointed that I wasn't offered the opportunity to meet singles in my area, I'm sprinkling those tea leaves on a muffin.  

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

Gee... imagine if we traded up and landed Curtain and Duursma, as well as Kynan Brown... maybe Freo's 2nd rounder (24) in there as well

Our 2023 1st (18) and 2024 1st (18) for GC Pick 7. Maybe our 2nd if need be (36). These will be pushed back with bid matches

4 + 7 + 24 + Brown

Archer Reid with 24

Wowee, oh boy!!!

Edited August 10, 2023 by Stiff Arm

[CatFishPig 453]

1 hour ago, Stiff Arm said:

Gee... imagine if we traded up and landed Curtain and Duursma, as well as Kynan Brown... maybe Freo's 2nd rounder (24) in there as well

Our 2023 1st (18) and 2024 1st (18) for GC Pick 7. Maybe our 2nd if need be (36). These will be pushed back with bid matches

4 + 7 + 24 + Brown

Archer Reid with 24

Wowee, oh boy!!!

Why would Suns do that trade? Some of the suggested trades I see on here are amazing. 
 

Maybe see if Suns will throw in Ben King as well as I think you’ve offered them too much. 

[Nascent 9,212]

 

Zane Duursma championship highlights. Hawks allegedly very keen so may just end up out of reach.

[Skuit 10,031]

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