NON-MFC: Round 2, 2022

[titan_uranus 24,975]

I'm sure everyone expected Hawthorn to be on top of the ladder and Port to be on the bottom.

Wonder what happened in that game. 

[Jaded No More 68,867]

For obvious reasons I watched none of the Hawks Port game and I assume nobody here did either. 
But what happened? Port bad? Hawks good? And how long does Hinkley have left?

[BoBo 2,941]

16 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

For obvious reasons I watched none of the Hawks Port game and I assume nobody here did either. 
But what happened? Port bad? Hawks good? And how long does Hinkley have left?

I’m watching it now, (only in the second quarter), Hawks pressure is up and just like everyone else they’re playing our style. They look pretty quick and players have obviously got a new lease of life under Mitchell. Hawks getting goals every 18 disposals… port every 60. Hawks look more organised around the ground compared to last year.

Right now it looks like Hawks are playing freely and Port look a bit stilted? 

Port not taking their goal opportunities…

Edited March 26, 2022 by BoBo

[DubDee 25,673]

16 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I'm sure everyone expected Hawthorn to be on top of the ladder and Port to be on the bottom.

Wonder what happened in that game. 

1. Port soft as butter

2. I saw a stat in the second half, Hawks from set shot 13 goals 0 behinds

[John Crow Batty 8,862]

Might have a coach sacking happening soon.

[Jaded No More 68,867]

6 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

Might have a coach sacking happening soon.

A very talented list with really no guts. Very soft under any sort of pressure. 

[BoBo 2,941]

Hawks are kicking everything and their inside 50 entries are much more efficient than Ports. Port not handling Hawks pressure very well 

[Willmoy1947 4,081]

Port need the big fella back and spreading it around .Will make a difference. 

[BoBo 2,941]

Just finished, Hawks played very well. Backs intercepted constantly, forwards kicked 13.0 from set shots which is absurd and their pressure was excellent. Hawks look to have figured them out a bit.
 

Hawks have a good foundation to build upon from here… but they’ve only played North and a Port side that has a lot of improving to do. Port look predictable going forward and I don’t think they respond to teams pressuring them, they look to wilt and not be able to wrestle back momentum.

Edited March 26, 2022 by BoBo

[DubDee 25,673]

1 hour ago, John Crow Batty said:

Might have a coach sacking happening soon.

They have missed finals on multiple occasions when senior players in their peak. I would have sacked him years ago. Decent coach but not getting the job done 

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

Port fans must be thrilled with their team’s effort in the last two games at the Adelaide Oval. 

[Cards13 9,117]

19 hours ago, Jontee said:

I must admit that jeremy cameron bloke finds some very innovative ways to stuff up.

Is he over rated?

Compared to his pay packet… we’ll and truely over rated. He hit a ceiling at GWS and he slide  since, has some moments but for his size and speed he should be a 50+ goal kicker each year. 10 seasons prior to this he’s kicked over 50, 3 seasons ago was the apex at 76.

[Cards13 9,117]

11 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

must prefer that to a canned singalong by a band from wa at adelaide oval

as least make the mark of cain the act of choice to do karaoke with

Good go man don’t let them ruin Mark of Cain, they can have Ben Folds! 

[Lucifers Hero 39,603]

7 hours ago, David-Demon said:

To be eligible for nomination, the player must be under the age of 21 at 1 January that year, and have played ten or fewer AFL games as of the start of the season. A player can only be nominated once per season; if a player is suspended during the season, he may be nominated, but will not be eligible to win the award.

I ask " Why not" ?   He qualifies.

So far not much competition for this week's nominee.

But the powers who vote these things probably figure he has a premiership medallion and there are more 'glamorous' players this year.  They like it when a top 5 pick wins rather than a pick in the 20's albeit would make a better story.

Would Bowey care?  Nup!!

[Jaded No More 68,867]

4 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

So far not much competition for this week's nominee.

But the powers who vote these things probably figure he has a premiership medallion and there are more 'glamorous' players this year.  They like it when a top 5 pick wins rather than a pick in the 20's albeit would make a better story.

Would Bowey care?  Nup!!

They’ll give it to either Daicos or Horne Francis regardless of form. Gotta get the big names rewarded 🙄

 

Bowey I’m sure is devastated as he polishes his premiership medal

[Lucifers Hero 39,603]

Winning scores so far:

• Carlton 16.6 vs Bulldogs
• Swans 17.5 vs Geelong
• Collingwood 15.10 vs Crows
• Lions 15.7 vs Essendon
• Hawks 19.6 vs Port
• Demons 12.10 vs GCS

It looks like phenomenally accurate kicking by the victors (not so much the dees).  To me the goal efficiency above looks like poor defence, especially fwd and midfield pressure to allow such scores.  It is not just the number of goals, when very few points are kicked imv it says there is little pressure inside d50 on the ball carrier coming in or when the ball hits the ground near goal. 

Some of the winning teams:  Pies, Hawks and Carlton have easy draws by virtue of the 2021 ladder position which will help them this year.  I'll wait 'til they play some of the better defensive teams to see where they sit.

Is there such a thing as a 'pressure' ladder? 

Edited March 26, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[Redleg 40,843]

10 hours ago, BoBo said:

I’m watching it now, (only in the second quarter), Hawks pressure is up and just like everyone else they’re playing our style. They look pretty quick and players have obviously got a new lease of life under Mitchell. Hawks getting goals every 18 disposals… port every 60. Hawks look more organised around the ground compared to last year.

Right now it looks like Hawks are playing freely and Port look a bit stilted? 

Port not taking their goal opportunities…

Hawks have adopted a fast, spread game, that older slow teams struggle with. They also have an in form couple of key forwards and a couple of small forward goal sneaks and  that helps.

[Lucifers Hero 39,603]

While we had a lesser defence they had King and Rankine out so they weren't able to take advantage of our weakness. 

They also played on a 6 day break and a flight back from Perth.

Under the circumstances they did exceptionally well.

[Lucifers Hero 39,603]

A Swans fan marked Buddy's 1,000th goal and excitedly left the stadium but lots of vision of him appeared in social media and the Swans implored the fan to give it to Buddy in return for personally handing the ball to Buddy at training. 

After the social media vision he may not have had much choice but kudos to the guy for giving it back.

[David-Demon 563]

56 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

They’ll give it to either Daicos or Horne Francis regardless of form. Gotta get the big names rewarded 🙄

 

Bowey I’m sure is devastated as he polishes his premiership medal

Edited March 27, 2022 by David-Demon

[Sir Why You Little 36,985]

11 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I'm sure everyone expected Hawthorn to be on top of the ladder and Port to be on the bottom.

Wonder what happened in that game. 

I will say one thing

I am not suprised to see Port start so badly. That Preliminary Final performance from last year doesn’t lie. 
Not much has changed 

[titan_uranus 24,975]

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Winning scores so far:

• Carlton 16.6 vs Bulldogs
• Swans 17.5 vs Geelong
• Collingwood 15.10 vs Crows
• Lions 15.7 vs Essendon
• Hawks 19.6 vs Port
• Demons 12.10 vs GCS

It looks like phenomenally accurate kicking by the victors (not so much the dees).  To me the goal efficiency above looks like poor defence, especially fwd and midfield pressure to allow such scores.  It is not just the number of goals, when very few points are kicked imv it says there is little pressure inside d50 on the ball carrier coming in or when the ball hits the ground near goal. 

Some of the winning teams:  Pies, Hawks and Carlton have easy draws by virtue of the 2021 ladder position which will help them this year.  I'll wait 'til they play some of the better defensive teams to see where they sit.

Is there such a thing as a 'pressure' ladder? 

Hawthorn had a day out vs Port. If they can kick 13.0 from set shots each week props to them, but history tells us they can't and won't repeat that weekly. 

Collingwood's two wins are nothing to write home about; pedestrian wins over St Kilda and Adelaide. To be fair, Carlton's beaten a top 4 and top 8 contender, and Hawthorn's beaten...well...I don't know what to call Port Adelaide this year.

Sydney probably has the best resume so far, with wins over GWS and Geelong.

[Lucifers Hero 39,603]

3 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Hawthorn had a day out vs Port. If they can kick 13.0 from set shots each week props to them, but history tells us they can't and won't repeat that weekly. 

Collingwood's two wins are nothing to write home about; pedestrian wins over St Kilda and Adelaide. To be fair, Carlton's beaten a top 4 and top 8 contender, and Hawthorn's beaten...well...I don't know what to call Port Adelaide this year.

Sydney probably has the best resume so far, with wins over GWS and Geelong.

As I said, I think it is all to do with lack of opp pressure for the likes of Coll, Hawks, Ess and to a lesser extent Carlton.

[The heart beats true 18,110]

I’m genuinely enjoying watching the Eagles play with so many top up players. It’s fascinating to watch how the individuals play, and how they need to be coached to be competitive.

[The heart beats true 18,110]

Ugh, my least favourite thing about the start of a season is that Dwayne Russell has had 6 month to come up with terrible puns.